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Hey fellow Dtoiders, my name is Josh Abram, I got several names that make up the whole which is me. Darrgoth my PSN Tag, Braingame007 is my 360 tag and Senger which I post on here.(Was the name of my character in WoW). I am here today on Destructoid Live to tell you abit about myself. I own a PS3 and Xbox 360, I am into a lot of games, only games I do not really care for is sports titles unless is has the name Mario on it. The main type of genre I enjoy is RPGs, Even though the RPGs of today are going down hill minus a few great titles. I enjoy MMORPGs as well but at the moment I reside in none. I also enjoy playing good actions games, competitive fighting games and shooters ofcourse. Halo, Socom Confrontation, Killzone 2, Gears of War.
Before I mainly enjoyed to play competitively online but I am coming to like co-op play more as Co-op is coming back into play in major titles.

I have other interests as well outside of video games, I love to watch anime, the main site I use to watch anime is www.crunchyroll.com. I watch all sorts of anime, not picky here at all, I even enjoy sports anime like Slam Dunk and Eye-Shield 21. Ofcourse though my favorite Anime of 3 of the top in Mainstream Japan, Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece. I watch alot of other series as well and am not a critic when it comes to anime by any means. Outside of anime though I like to read books written by R.A. Salvatore and David Gemmell. Fantasy Novels.

Anyhow I need to get going, so I will finish the rest of the about me at a later point. This should be good enough to make Patman Happy for now =)
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Number Crunch, Why do people complain about PS3 Price?
Senger | 11:19 AM on 06.09.2009 26 comments


Why? I ask because all the extras you get with the ps3 simply make it worth the already once lowered price, $400 system is an amazing price for what you get, yet people still complain? I will show you what I mean.

PS3-$400 System
Come with a high quality Blue Ray Player drive
40 Gig HDD, 20 Gig bigger than the 360's standard HDD
Wireless Network card built in
Free Net play ( Can't deny Xbox Live is great and has tons of subscribers, but some people don't see the sense into being forced to pay to play online)
Has a Internet Browser built in and has full use of a Keyboard and Mouse.

Xbox 360 Pro- $299.99 System
Normal Dvd Drive
20gig HDD- worthless if you like to download demos and games.
No wireless Network built in and costs $100 to buy it new.
Costs $100 to buy a new 60Gig or a used 120 gig HDD

This is not a PS3 vs. 360 post, I have both systems and support both companies. But you are looking at a 100$ increase but you get alot more for your money. Not to mention when I bought my Xbox 360 for $350 brand new and when it released they had a marked up price, and people was selling them on ebay for $700+.
I do understand ya if they dropped their prices $50-$100 on all the PS3s they would probably fly off the shelf, but you are already definately getting your money's worth with the $400 system.

I also understand we are in a recession and an extra $100 hurts, but if you can't afford it in the first place, do you really even need to be buying a game console in the first place?



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Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 11:46
Tubatic
Sure. Sony really should have gotten gritty with some oldschool side by side comparison ads.

You do sound like a total "fanboy" though.

SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 11:50
SephirothX
People bitch about the PS3's price because well, in large groups people are stupid. They want, and in some cases demand, the PS3 to be able to do more then the competition but yet get angry that it costs more.

Yeah- I would like a Big Mac, large fries, and a Coke for the cost of a Happy Meal.. but I'm not going to get that either.
Brando's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:04
Brando
Gee, I never heard this argument ever before.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:06
Daxelman
Ummm, just a small correction.

The Pro comes with a 60 Gig Harddrive.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:08
Nic128
I'm waiting for games coming out next year.

I'll buy the console for the games, not for the specs, even if I agree with everything you said.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:12
covah
jesus christ, fanboy argument number 1

When it gets down to it, no average consumer gives a damn about about the add on prices. You must remember, not everyone who plays games sits and calculates the prices of accessories while they surf video game blogs. In the end they see The Wii at $249, the 360 at $300 and the PS3 at $400 and think "man the PS3 is expensive." They don't think "oh well it comes with an internal wireless adapter. that saves me money!" Like it or not, the PS3's price point IS hurting the sales still. But it's not going to change anytime soon. The economy is in the shitter and Sony still loses money on every PS3 they sell, so if they lower the price they're going to lose MORE money.

and the next time you pull this argument up, you know since it's still fresh and new for the past two and a half years, get the facts straight. All 360's come with a 60GB HDD
Secret Cow's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:14
Secret Cow
The PS3 definitely has more features out of the box than the Xbox360, but a lot of them aren't features that most consumers care about.

Especially in this economy the card readers, wireless internet, web browser, bigger hard drive and so on don't represent $100 worth of value.

If you look at the closest competition, Xbox 360 offers a bare bones box at $199. That plays just about all of the same games. For a lot of people, that's all the comparison they need. It does basically the same thing, but for $200 less.

The Blu-Ray player is a great added value, but only if you have an HD setup to take advantage of it. If you're already price conscious, there's a good chance you don't have a nice big 1080p and surround setup. If that's the case, then Blu-Ray isn't going to be a huge improvement over DVD.

Free online play over PSN is nice, but if you're not big on multiplayer gaming it's another feature you could live without.

Also, Microsoft has also a very good job of obscuring the cost of LIVE with gold and silver accounts. Technically everyone with an internet connection can use Xbox LIVE, and even single player games that just report achievements are "LIVE enabled". In their marketing MS can say that Xbox LIVE is free to use. Technically this is true, and it makes it harder for consumers to understand why free play on PSN is a big deal.

So assuming you don't find a lot of value in a web browser, card reader, big Hard Drive, wireless internet, and Blu-Ray, you're left with two machines that do basically the same thing - play the current generation of video games - and one is more expensive than the other. For a lot of people that's pretty much there is to it.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:16
Kraid
It's because they are pedophiles.
Senger's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:36
Senger
Pro comes with 60? I got the shaft then Got a 20 in mine
Senger's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:37
Senger
Pro comes with 60? I got the shaft then Got a 20 in mine, but I did buy my system about 2 years ago, and thats probably why
Haxan's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:48
Haxan
@Solgrim,
Actually, no PS3 versions have PS2 compatability anymore. They axed that well over a year ago. I have to say that it's sad that Sony is hacking away at features and functionality but isn't cutting the price to go along with it.

I'm afraid of what might occur should anything happen to my 60gb PS3. There's no other way to get that upscaling on PS2 games.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:49
Cowboy TTop
Why people bitch is simple. Sony are renowned for their stiff ass pricing, especially in japan. Anyone else in last place would drop the price of their system to match the competitor and even things out, but Sony think their product is too good for us to do this.

The second reason is simply that 360 packages offer better value for money. An Elite is the top of the line currently, with a sweet sized hard drive, but even below that, with a premium it offers a complete pack set for gaming, that is better value for money.

Now Sony will forever tout Blu Ray as the next messiah media, but this and PS3s worth is kind of quashed as stand alone Blu Ray players are now starting to appear cheap, with recordable Blu Ray not far behind. Blu Ray films are a sweet extra, not the necessity many make out.

I want to own all consoles too, but I'll bag a PS3, when it gets to about £200. My patience will pay off in the end. Until then, my 360 will do nicely, thanks.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:53
SephirothX
How about the people who cant afford PS3's get real jobs, and not stick with $7 an hour jobs? (If you're in college right now, thats an exception, because I understand and have been there).
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 13:03
Daxelman
Weather you work at a 7 buck an hour job or a 70 buck an hour job, 100 bucks is a lot to spare for now a days.
Cyberxion's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 13:46
Cyberxion
I think that whether or not the PS3 is worth it to you is wholly dependant on what you're looking for out of a videogame console. If you want it just to play games on, the price might appear to be a little prohibitive. If you're a technology geek, you're probably gonna want it for all the things you can do with it besides playing games, which might make Sony's asking price a little easier to stomach.

So yeah, it's subjective.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 13:56
Chris Carter
WELCOME TO 2007, CREATURE FROM AFAR! HERE ON EARTH, WE DEBATE ENDLESSLY ABOUT THE SAME "FANBOY" CONSOLE SUBJECTS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, SOMETIMES BRINGING IN "NUMBER CRUNCHES" TO PROVE OUR POINTS. HERE'S AN IDEA, MR. GELGAMEK, HOW ABOUT YOU USE YOUR SPACE BUCKS AND BUY BOTH SYSTEMS?



Have you seen Ruby Rhod in your galaxy lately? Bitch owes me $5.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 14:01
Monodi
At least the PSPGo is cheaper...
elsteveo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 14:50
elsteveo
These arguments make me flacid
Senger's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 16:28
Senger
Magnalon seems the be the only one throwing the word fanboy around. My original post was simply asking why do people bitch about the price of the system with all that comes with it. Its not a 360 VS PS3 THREAD. I was just using 360 as a crutch for my post. Like I said, I own both systems, I currently play my 360 more, plus my ps3 controller took a dive and I slammed it against my door :) $50 dollars and some door damage down just made my pockets a bit deeper.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 16:40
Chris Carter
Senger:
"Magnalon seems the be the only one throwing the word fanboy around"
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Covah
"jesus christ, fanboy argument number 1."

Tubatic
"You do sound like a total 'fanboy' though."

The point is, we've seen it all before. I don't even know if this is forum worthy.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 19:57
Black Nexus
I wonder that myself considering the 360 was the same price at one point and there wasn't half the bitching that happens these days.
ChillyBilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 20:19
ChillyBilly
I just bought a PS3 about 3 weeks ago. I was complaining about the price while I was in line and I was complaining about the price today at work. I love the machine and am having a blast with it but I still think it's too expensive.
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