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[Editor's note: Scary Womanzing Pig Mask talks about virtual deck building for his A Time to Build Monthly Musing. -- CTZ]

I have a confession to make: I like children’s card games. Not like Gin Rummy or Crazy Eights, although those are amazing, but the addictive devil known as trading card games. They're incredibly fun, in both playing them, constructing and personalizing a deck. The process of starting out with a simple deck and slowly augmenting it by steadily gaining new cards from booster packs, with the eventual result of a customized, unique deck that perhaps even reflects you a bit, is one I greatly enjoy.

Despite this though, I hardly had any actual cards, now or in the past, because despite being made of win, card games are flawed. They exist to sell themselves, which leads to some unfortunate aspects, like loads of useless cards that only serve to clog up packs forcing you to buy more to obtain more desirable ones and overly complex and archaic rules as the series progress. New material is always required.

That’s why I love trading card videogames. They capture a specific instance in time when the card game was at its peak. The arduous and expensive process of trolling though booster packs to find certain cards is alleviated by their price-free abundance, and one cad fully enjoy the best part of card games: constructing a deck.

Children's card games warrant lab coats

Most TCG videogames start the same way: the player is given a choice between a couple of basic decks and is thrust into a fictional universe where every ones lives revolve around card games. This is where the deck construction starts; in the beginning almost every card you get will be added into you’re deck, as almost everything is better then what you have.

This can lead to a hodgepodge deck of mixed types and strategies, or not if you stick to the starter decks chosen theme. But once a few more duels are won, and you’re portfolio of options has increased, you begin to start making choices of which cards go in and which leave. It may be based on strategy preferences, like replace a Baby Dragon with a Cannon Soldier because you prefer indirect damage to direct. Or personal preferences, like you just really like Pikachu. Either way, you’re beginning the slow process of taking something established and making it your own, sort of like my namesakes in Mother 3, except a whole lot less sinister.

Your powerful starting cards

And as you get more and more cards, this unique individuality and personality shines through even more. If you gave me and another TCG fan a complete copy of Pokemon TCG for the Gameboy Color, we’d come back to you with vastly different decks because we're two different people with different preferences in terms of tactics and aesthetics.

In virtual Yu-Gi-Oh decks, I almost always put in Relinquished because I get a derisive pleasure out of stealing other player's cards. Others that are not so cruelly inclined have different staple cards that they can’t resist using. And when it comes down to it, even if you’re making the same type of deck, there’s so many cards to choose from that it really ends up being personal preference whether Chansey or Snorlax make it into to a deck.

That is why I love building decks. It reflects you in it and I know it sounds dopey, but that’s why I love playing card games with friends; to see the decks they come up with and why. It’s fun to see what choices they make, and I get excited every time we play.

Not as excited as this guy though

It’s not just in TCG videogames either. Games like Custom Robo and Advance Wars, where you’re given a basic structure: You, and you’re opponents creativity runs wild with what parts you add on, or what type of units you build. There are any number of factors used to customize and build your own decks, robots or armies, so that you can call it your own.


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Riosan's Avatar
Riosan at 11/30/2008 16:26
Haha, I used to love both real life, and video game, card games. Had lots of fun with YGO when it was really popular, same with Pokeymans cards. Never played either, but me and my friends all had fun just collecting and seeing if we could "beat" each other with who had the best.
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Vongore at 11/30/2008 16:27
Awesome <5
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jorge at 11/30/2008 16:29
I wish they would make a new DS Pokemon TCG game. I would totally buy it for the promo it'd come with. And speaking of come...
NotGeoff's Avatar
NotGeoff at 11/30/2008 16:47
I prefer the card games for the intellectual, like UNO.
ace of knaves's Avatar
ace of knaves at 11/30/2008 16:56
I'm here to kick ass and play card games...and I'm all out of ass.
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 17:08
@Ace Of Knaves
XD I was gonna make my header "Screw the rules I have a monthly musing", but I thought it would be to obscure XP
Vongore's Avatar
Vongore at 11/30/2008 17:13
Pig Mask is what makes awesome awesome :3
tsunamikitsune's Avatar
tsunamikitsune at 11/30/2008 17:19
Card games are awesome. I've loved them ever since Pokemon. I'm currently playing Magic: The Gathering and loving it. :D
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 17:22
@Jorge
As would I :) I'm kind of miffed the sequel to the GBC one was never localized.

@Vongore
Thanks :3

@Tsnuamikitsune
Heh, I'm actually learning to play Magic now! Haven't quite mastered it, but it seems like great fun :)
Vongore's Avatar
Vongore at 11/30/2008 17:26
Yay, promoted. That was quick
lucashoal's Avatar
lucashoal at 11/30/2008 17:29
Front Page Fuck Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaarr
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casualweaponry at 11/30/2008 17:33
YuGiOh: The Abridged Series references FTW! By the way. Mokuba has been kidnapped again :(
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 17:39
@Casualwaponary
"Im sure Mokuba's fine, he's used to being kidnapped"
"It feels like I'm dying!" XD
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Ascythopicism at 11/30/2008 17:39
"Montly Musing," huh?
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 17:40
@Ascythopicsm
Yugi can't spell.
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bluki at 11/30/2008 17:55
the same reason why i loved TCG in video game form, there are almost nobody interested in TCG amongst my friends, also buying random packs to get card is ridiculous, so yeah, i can get thousands of cards in one cartridge / UMD (i love my card game in portable gaming form).

though so far i mainly hooked to Yu-Gi-Oh series, since it's rules and mechanics is the most familiar and less boring than other TCGs

anyone can recommend me card based games out there? (esp. in PSP)
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pheonix-blood at 11/30/2008 17:57
I play YuGIOH TCG, quite proud of my collection, got quite some rare ones too (toon dark magician girl and all 4 lamb tokens), my best friend is also one of the best players in Europe.
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myaimistrue at 11/30/2008 18:04
"You're powerful starting cards"

Your. Not You´re. Your.

Otherwise, a well deserved frontpage promotion! Congrats!
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RonBurgandy2010 at 11/30/2008 18:05
How long was this up before it got featured? Do the editors have a quota or something that they need to meet? Just kidding. But I would never consider building a good deck in real life. It's too costly and you can't really take someone seriously when you learn they play a trading card game. At leans, not after seeing The Abridged Series.
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 18:07
@blunki
Yugioh Nightmare Turdabour for the DS is pretty fun, as is Pokemon TCG for the GBC, which you can NOT emulate on you're PSP.

@Phoenix Blood
I always wanted Toon Dark Magician girl to complete my toon deck. My pride was my Toon Cannon Soldier :3 Combine that with Scapegoat for massive damage XD

@myaimisture
Lol, I blame Yugi for that too.
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mikeyed at 11/30/2008 18:25
I actually spent a Christmas' bounty on replacing stolen cards one time, so I actually decided to forgo anymore embarrassing moments and just keep card games to myself. It is certainly a luxury to be able to compete fairly in trading card games. I know this only too well. That is why I love the invention of trading card video games, however they do tend to isolate one even more.

I too enjoyed building decks. I use to grow personal attachments to certain strategies. Even going so far as to see winning strategies that compromised my ideals as below me and not necessary to address, however when I started losing more and more, those morals eroded until I realized whatever works works. My tastes should come last, thus relieving me of my vain nature once and for all.

Trading card video games are awesome, I agree.
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Kaspar at 11/30/2008 18:25
I had it bad with the Pokemans and Yugiohs...

This brings back some painful memories of money thrown off a bridge.
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NotGeoff at 11/30/2008 18:27
hmm it appears I have a counterattack avatar

love ya pigmask <3
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Spartacus at 11/30/2008 18:32
Holy crap, Pokemon TCG on the Gameboy Color was just about the best thing ever.
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 18:34
@Ghoff
Lol, you just need to animate it now <3
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OrangeMango at 11/30/2008 19:12
I have quite a collection of Yu-gi-oh cards that were left over when i was all about the game when i was 11. I think my folks sold my 200 something pokemon cards on ebay though :(
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Unicorn at 11/30/2008 20:41
i beat pokemon TCG on gbc with the starter deck. i never figured out how to add cards or to make decks when i got that game.

a lot of resetting on the elite 4.. then i forgot i had to press A or w/e to get the legendary cards after it all...

so i booted it up a few years ago, tried making a deck, but didn't feel like playing all the gym leaders again to get the legendary cards, so i went back to playing Magic: The Gathering in real life.

did you ever play Magic? best tcg ever.
trencherman's Avatar
trencherman at 11/30/2008 20:42
There is a really good card battle game on DS call High-Speed Card Battle: Card Hero.

It's very well designed, great fit for a digital format, great fit on the DS, and self-contained. Made by Intelligent Systems and has wifi play with voice chat too.

Only drawback, it's import only, and in Japanese.

Seriously good card game though.
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wario67 at 11/30/2008 20:53
I still play. I have been using a beat down deck but I just got the zombie world peck so I'm going to make a zombie deck too.
I even have tag force 2 on my PSP. Its lots of fun and theres like 1800 cards.
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Torzelan at 11/30/2008 21:07
I beat Chocobo Tales, that's like a trading card game... light! Easy enough for me to understand atleast, not like the madness that was Yu-Gi-Oh! where I had no idea what was going on.

I started some Pokemans on the DS a while back though and that was fun (and I kind of understand it)... Can't even remember why I stopped, must've just been busy. Think I'll give it a go again, thanks for reminding me :)
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 21:13
@unicorn
I'm learning to play Magic now :D

@trenchman
Heh, that's a bit of deal breaker for a game I have no idea how to play XD

@torzlean
I've heard good things about CT so I met just have to get it!
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/30/2008 21:13
@unicorn
I'm learning to play Magic now :D

@trenchman
Heh, that's a bit of deal breaker for a game I have no idea how to play XD

@torzlean
I've heard good things about CT so I met just have to get it!
Monodi's Avatar
Monodi at 11/30/2008 21:20
I made terrible, TERRIBLE mistakes in order to get involved with YuGiOh. I betrayed my own GameBoyColor and GameCube in order to get cards and still yet I regret doing such bullshit as we are not getting gaems as good as back then.

I had the ironic conclusion of making my Warrior-type deck a top tier around my side of the town when suddenly almost nobody played, right then I cried for Link's Awakening, WaveRace Bluestorm and Pokemon Silver.

Stupi things, stupid and terrible things I did.


But yeah, it was fun. While it lasted.
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Monodi at 11/30/2008 21:21
PS: I'd have a Mother3 avatar too I guess.
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Spitfire at 11/30/2008 21:38
best card fighting game: Card Fighter Clash for the Neo-Geo Pocket.... hands down!
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CaptainApocalypse at 11/30/2008 22:57
I'm a sucker for any kind of TCG. We need to get some kind of TCG NARP established.
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CaptainApocalypse at 11/30/2008 23:53
Also, the WoW TCG is tons of fun. You don't even have to be big into the WoW to enjoy it. It's built rather well and being able to do a "raid deck", where one player runs the Raid and the others team up against them, is really enjoyable.
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Qraze at 12/01/2008 00:17
i love magic the gathering! i been playing and collecting since '94 but didn't like the change of color designs, i think its confusing to tell white from artifacs now, but still love to play. would love to try a ps eye chat room match but haven't met anyone on psn who has a cam and cards. i got thousands of cards. it actually taught me algebra in 6th grade w/o me knowing it was lol.
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The-Excel at 12/01/2008 00:21
I used to play the original Yu-Gi-Oh with my brother when I was 13 or so. I'm thinking of picking it up again, but only if I can get my hands on all of the Gradius-related cards. I didn't know about it back then.
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The-Excel at 12/01/2008 00:23
Now that I think about it, there were a few Parodius cards that I did have. I wasn't aware those were related to a shmup in those times. I should get those again, too.
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Quisling at 12/01/2008 00:26
Since you love building decks so much, look up and give Dominion a shot. It's a game you could probably find in a gaming specialty store (or online) and it has quite a few interesting little mechanisms, but it basically boils down to building a deck that generates certain things quicker than your opponents, by purchasing more cards each turn. It's quite fun.

Good write up.
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Charles Sharam at 12/01/2008 00:31
I like this article my man. Pokemon TCG for GBC is probably my favourite out there. There was something really satisfying about collecting the cards in that game, especially when you snagged rare ones and popped them into your deck.
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s0lesurviv0r at 12/01/2008 00:35

God, I wish they'd make MTG videogames as often as YGO. How many people have played the Card Fighters Clash games, NGPC or DS?
Linkoman's Avatar
Linkoman at 12/01/2008 00:52
dont you customize your character in MMORPGs too?
lucashoal's Avatar
lucashoal at 12/01/2008 02:14
ATTENTION DUELISTS

THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE COMMENTS

....IN AMERICA

will read tomorrow when I'm awake mang. Great Jorb, again :V.
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Farscape at 12/01/2008 02:56
Fullmetal Alchemist TCG all the way!
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Petrie at 12/01/2008 03:59
I used to fund my early teenage years through the Pokemon TCG, I took a friends extra cards and built a deck, entered a tourney, won, used those cards to trade for better deck cards, and eventually was ranked 2nd in NY state. At that point I simply would go to any tourney nearby, clean-up, and either sell all the packs or various other winnings, or open them and use those cards to continue to evolve my deck. Never spent a dime but made thousands selling those little things. Unfortunately as I got older and began to want to spend that time pursuing women I lost touch, since it seemed to put them off a bit knowing a guy had Pokemon cards.
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Silent Screams at 12/01/2008 05:36
ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR HAS KIDNAPPED THIS COMMENT

I used to play Magic the Gathering, but stopped when my friend who taught me to play moved away and i had no one left to practice with, and i got pissed off playing in the local comps against adults who had unlimited resources to spend on their decks, and were able to just go and buy the cards they wanted. then use those hand picked cards to mop the floor with my deck that was built from whatever i go in the measly amount of booster packs i could afford.

Thinking about playing Magic online though, i downloaded it (It took ages) just to be told that the server was off line while they went over to a new system (that id have to download).
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Naim Master at 12/01/2008 07:28
One fot he gratest things in when you have a whole school into TCG , pretty much 1/3 of the male humans of my school are in TCG (Pokemon or Magic) , so this feeling of winning of a senior when you're on the 6 grade , I never felt so Badass ...
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ChronosWing at 12/01/2008 07:47
@Silent

Your not missing anything with magic online unless you enjoy blowing your money on virtual cards. Would be different if they allowed you to scan your existing cards somehow into the game, kind of like eye of judgment. Which btw is the first ps3 game I ever bought and I would of bought more cards but they are damn impossible to find aside from ebay or e-tailers.

My big TCG obsession was MTG, I have literally thousands of cards and about 10 decks. But sadly no one to play with lately.

@Qraze

Would love to play some MTG over ps eye chat. Add me PSN: ChronosWing
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