Beware. This is a really long post where I rant and bitch and basically say everyone is stupid.
Hey Ron did you hear about MGS4 on the 360?
Yes, a long long time ago far far away. I don’t really want to say anything about it. I am tired of it. But since Grim used my amazingly badass unicorn pic, I will make a brief statement.
Yes. Yes I have heard. No I am not amazed. I wrote about this shit long before it was trendy. I don’t plan on having a party when the fucking game gets announced. If I made shit up then I would have a party. I know and have known its coming. Why in the fuck would it shock me at all when MGS4 hit’s the 360? It won’t.
It is honestly tough for me to put this into words. Im not really a journalist and never wanted to be one. I write like I am talking to my friends and cant help but add in jokes. This was my mistake with the whole “MGS4 debacle.” I added jokes and didn’t predict how stupid people really were. Would it amaze people if they knew I sat in and played a tech demo of MGS4 running on the Xbox 360? I am a fucking Market Research Analyst! What in the fuck do you think I do for a living? My career is based off of finding shit out before everyone else. The problem is that I don’t have a backbone as a writer and I like to be funny. Does that make me any less correct?
There is a big difference between
“I’m guessing, I predict, and confirmed.” It is tough to relay this in writing. Some of you that follow Dtoid and more closely, my cblogs know that I “predict” things much much further in advance than most people. There is a very large list of things that I was the first to write about. My writing is shit so I rarely get credited. Well, that and the fact that I predict big things very early. Did you know that the Final Fantasy announcement at E3 from Microsoft was not shocking to me? The only thing that surprised me about it was that they announced it at E3 and not at TGS. Do you know why I wasn‘t blown away that it was coming to the 360? Because I only told Nick, Niero, Colette, Teddy Gage (BHZ), Joe Burling, and a few other LAST FUCKING YEAR and not everyone. Why wouldn’t I tell everyone? Because I didn’t feel like listening to all the bullshit over again that I have gone through with MGS4, and also because Im not really a fucking journalist.
Most video game
journalists are shit. A journalist doesn’t sit around at the water cooler talking about rumors and then writing about them. A journalist should do research and not just spout off his or her opinion on something. Good writing does not mean you are a good journalist. Please please please understand that. A good journalist should not be bias. Its fucking tough as a gamer who is also a games journalist to not have a bias against a company or a game. Example: Jim Sterling is a fucking awesome writer but, Jim Sterling is a terrible journalist. No offense to Jim. it’s a good thing. He is a funny guy and a passionate gamer. He cannot understand what journalism is because of internal bias. Jim’s writing is what entertains you. Not Jim’s investigative reporting. Nobody would read Jim’s work if he didn’t make it in his own way. You know who actually is a great journalist? You may not believe this, but Chris Grant from Joystiq is one of the best gaming journalists that I have met. But, I cant imagine Chris trying to write something funny like Jim. That’s the rub. You can’t do both very easily. I on the other hand, am a fucking unbelievably bad writer, terrible at journalism, love to be sarcastic and funny, and honestly, one of the best Matlocks in the history of this industry. I know what I am good at and I know what I suck at. I’m so sarcastic about what I do that I unknowingly refer to Market industry research and “Matlockery.”
This is my conflict. As a dude that is a real gamer I get excited when I find out something big early. I really think gamers should know. Its not about breaking news or being known as a great investigative journalist. Its about all of the dumb shit I read in forums and hear every time I go into a Gamestop. There is also a part of me that loves saying
“Old!” every time news gets announced. Nick told me once that I should just be the dude at the press conferences that yells OLD! every time they announce something. I just wrote that twice didn't I? see I am a shit journalist.
One last thing. When I make predictions its very very rare that I know WHEN these things will come true. If you go back and look at things I “Predicted” you will see that over time they all come true. Hell, I announced MegaMan 9 in a web comic. I thought it would get announced at the pre-E3 Capcom Captivation event or at Tokyo Gameshow. Yes I was wrong about when but it didn’t change the fact that I was 100% right about the game. Side note: over a month after I had played Megaman 9 some random fuck finds the Aussie trademark for it and got all of the credit.
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Ron++NSFWorkman/biggest-news-of-the-day-my-web-comic-87494.phtml
My friends all know that concerning MGS4, I have always always stood by
“Sometime in spring or summer of 2009” as my
“when is it coming” answer. There is no “Proof” that I can relay to you about its release date. The one solid chuck of evidence I found long ago was the original contract between Sony and Konami concerning exclusivity. Yes I know that may shock you because none of the wannabe game journalists in this industry aside from a few would think that that would be a smart document to have. Actually, all of them because nobody found it but me. Originally that contract ended in September of 2008. This would lead one to believe that MGS4 could in fact go multi-console at some point after September of 2008. OK If you are an idiot, you are already preparing your “But Ron its October 2008 and its not out and there is no announcement.” To this I reply.
I fucking hate you. I hate you. I hate you. Please at least finish out high school and try for a Jr. college. You owe it to your kids not to raise them to be as dumb as you. Please try! Another reason to make the assumption is because of Konami’s current stock price or company value. Fresh off the heals of MGS4’s PS3 launch the company is less than half of its 1 year high and looking grim. No, it isn’t the price of oil or Bush that is causing it.
When things like this happen, what do you think a company should do? Should they
A. Remember that Sony makes MGS4 like Nintendo makes Mario.
B. Stick to the exclusivity contract even though the terms have ended.
C. Don’t make more money by selling more games.
Or D. I fucking hate the fact that I have to explain shit that is this dumb.
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And my final indicator that MGS4 might be coming to the 360, could have something to do with the fucking fact that [redacted]That was something I should have said publicly over a year ago but couldn’t. I do not work for Dtoid and I don’t really care anymore. So fuck it. There were also other industry folks in the room from TV and websites. They [redacted]Some people might think that was smart and give me
"Mad props." Instead I write a “Snakes on a valley” joke in my MGS4 post and idiots think they debunked it because of that? Did the joke in my Megaman 9 post somehow debunk it? Also, the reality was that I [redacted]
Bottom Line: I don’t even give a fuck if MGS4 comes out on the 360 anymore. I am so sick and tired of people saying “Kojima says IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN” when not once has Kojima actually said it. Not one fucking time has the dude said anything more than “This game is being developed specifically for the PS3” or “I am sick of all of the 360 rumors.” If you cannot understand why that is not the same as “Its is never coming to the 360” then you are a fucking idiot and/or a shit journalist. Yes I know you have seen tons of sites report on things that Kojima said “in so many words” but that is not fact. Sterling wrote a few weeks ago “Peter Molynuex says that Fable 2 isn’t possible on the PS3” when in fact Peter Molynuex DID NOT SAY THAT! Here is word for word what he said
“Some of the stuff in Fable II we're doing with co-op is only possible because of the way that LIVE is structured... Whereas the PS3 doesn't seem to be quite so mature on that side. They haven't got quite the same infrastructure and service but, you know, yeah, I'd love to get games on every platform.“
At no point did he say it “wasn’t possible” meaning in any way that the game itself wouldn‘t run on a PS3. It is possible. Jim’s title gave the story a misleading context. Passionate gaming writers often do this stuff. Journalists don’t. Dtoid is “For hardcore gamers and by hardcore gamers.” Would you even be here if it wasn’t? That’s why the fucking site exists. It doesn’t say “For hardcore gamers by people that went to school for journalism.” Hardcore gamers don’t give a fuck about journalism. You don’t either. Sorry. I’m calling you out. [edited for Wardrox... I mean "you " as in you the reader and gamer at this point]You care about having an opinion because goddamnit you know your shit. You have played games and YOU are just as much of an expert on gaming as me or as Niero, or as anyone else. If you gave a fuck about journalism you wouldn’t even give a shit if the game was coming out on the Nintendo 64. You want controversy and opinions. You want to fully agree or troll.
MGS4 is “possible” on the Wii but not “likely.’ The reason Fable 2 isn’t going to be on the PS3 is the same reason Halo isn’t going to be on the PS3. Also, It has little to do with the technical implications. Fable 2 cant do some of the things it can do on the 360 on a PS3 because of the integration of Xbox Live and not because of GPU’s or RAM. You also don’t want to research and understand that a Sony PS3 exclusive lost could result in much higher profits for a game company than a 360 game losing the exclusivity to Sony. MGS4 on the 360 a year later would do great in sales. Bioshock on the PS3 isn’t going to cause any midnight launch party madness though.
Oh no. You don’t want that though. Something has to be better. That is the reality though. Its just not entertaining and it doesn’t easily give you anything to side with. Jim is awesome at giving you a side. A lot of you fucking idiots won’t understand that I am not laying into Jim. I am making a point. Jim would be “Hey opinionated British snaky dude, give me another beer” at the local pub if it wasn’t for the fact that he wrote this way. Brian Crecente would be “Hey pirate hair guy, easy on the onions” he he wrote like Jim.
Bottomer Line: Gamers are fickle. They have PC’s that do not have search engines that can go past 2 weeks. They don’t think, hmmm, maybe I will look back to find out that Ron is always right about things he has “Confirmed” but wrong about the dates sometimes. You forget things and move on to the next battle. That IS what you want. Troll wars are awesome and feel good. Nobody wants to fight because at E3 3 years ago Sony promised a boomerang controller and dual HDMI, bla bla OLD! People want a new fight all the time. MGS4 has been great in rehashing that fight and that’s why every few months for over a year now I get “OMG did you see the news on MGS4” messages all day long. I still think the same fucking things I KNEW long ago. It has not changed.
Bottomest Line: I hope MGS4 doesn’t come to the 360 now. Actually I don’t even fucking care enough to hope. Here is what I am going to deal with when it happens. Nobody crediting me when the press release goes out. No public apology from the assholes that fucked with me repeatedly. Wannabe journalists answering comments from people that I know and saying shit like “well fuck, he got lucky and guessed something and got it right” or “who couldn’t have guessed MGS4 was coming to the 360” and bla fucking bla bla. You know who didn’t guess? You, fuck bag journalist. You didn’t guess until after it was trendy and it became fact. You don’t even have too either. Gamers are fickle remember. They will never look back at the posts that called me out on Digg and everywhere else. Why in the fuck would they? The same asshole that makes 8 “OMG MGS4 is coming to 360” posts can make 8 “OMG MGS4 rumor debunked for 360” and nobody cares besides me. Gamers will read them all. Journotrash will get paychecks. The world is happy.
Finally: Yes. I did hear that a Japanese investment research company made comments about MGS4. If I remember correctly, I posted something about that awhile back. If google could go back more than 2 weeks I would look it up but Im too busy playing video games from the fucking future.
Trivia bonus question:
Who said this last month?
...New Castlevania game coming to the PS3 and 360? 100% True. The current name is 'Dark Abyss' and I cant confirm more than 20% on who is developing it. I have a few ideas, but a few is a few too many. Last year I found out about this game but could not find anything to confirm it. I have that now. I dont really have a strong idea about when and where they will announce it but I can guess that it will be slated for release winter 09 - spring 10. I admit, thats a safe guess.
hint: Its not from this post
http://kotaku.com/5061377/konami-whips-up-castlevania-for-xbox-360-ps3
Guess correct and I will give you a COD5 beta key or Love you for all of eternity. The choice is yours.
Also 100th coment gets one also unless the comment is stupid as fuck. Make me laugh.
Didn't read it.
I keep it real shawty.
I guess Ron wins the contest.
Wow... just wow. Clown shoes?
Anyway Ron, I see where you're coming from, pretty good article overall (although I think you went in circles a bit (OLD!)), but at the end of the day only one thing is important here:
Look, you drink!
You tell 'em Ron
I actually read it.
Now I'm gonna go forget it if you want me too.
As for me. I need to go learn how to blog better.
It's three twenty in the morning, dickhole.
wait, what?
Wait. Is the answer Ron Workman? I just... I just don't know... I'm taking a shot in the dark here.
When they say the walls have ears.. I guess they mean you have ears.
My ears are big, big like a pickle.
Ron Workman took me out for a nice seafood dinner and all he left me with at the end of the night was a broken heart and a bad case of crabs.
Ron: Thanks for being amazing, most to all of the time. I suck as a writer too, the only difference is I'm not privy to all the amazing shit you are.
Also, I don't think people realize that you could get in shit for saying some of the stuff you do. Similar to the whole pre-NARP playing Gaiden 2 explosion that took place, some things really can't get out there, or people can get sued.
Final notes: NDAs suck, Ron needs to keep on trucking and ignore the douches that are douche-y and I enjoy alcohol.
this post was Fuck Awesome!!
Wait, MGS2 is coming out for Xbox?
Okay, he's how I see things. I can understand why you're angry that people doubted you but you said it best yourself, "Gamers are fickle." Unlike the movie industry where someone will announce a film, we'll see a couple of production photos, and eventually a trailer, gamers will scrape and claw at any tidbit of information they can get because they're so passionate about the medium. Here's the thing though, people can only speculate so much on rumors and are just as easy to dismiss "he said she said" confirmations as hearsay. When whoever it was that discovered the MM9 Aussie trademark came along, gamers got excited because there was concrete evidence of MM9's existence. Granted people could have just as easily taken your word for it (Hell I took your word about MGS4 when I watched you broadcast on Stickam from some LAN party in Kentucky saying you talked to Michael Pachter about it since I had no reason to doubt you) but people want to know that something is happening, not just know that someone says they know something is happening. It's a thankless yob so don't get too angry over it.
Either way, I would more than love to hear more of your unsubstantiated rumors that couldn't possibly be true, right?
Also, I heard from an industry insider that Paris Hilton has a huge vagina. I can't reveal my source so you'll just have to take my word for it.
You know who's a terrible journalist? That Samit Sarkar guy. He's fucking worthless. But I hear he's not bad at NHL 09...
Ha, at this point, I was actually kind of hoping MGS4 would stay on the PS3 so I would have more than one reason (Little Big Planet) to buy one. If MGS4 comes out on the 360, I may continue to pass on the PS3.
Well, at least it was an interesting read if nothing else. :)
I actually read it all. Firstly, you're right, you are a crap writer. And that's actually, although I know you don't see it, a big problem. I feel the need to address this as I currently have cock in my mouth, but your comments about Jim are rather passive-aggressive.
I am sure you don't mean it to be so, but when the medium through which you communicate is one in which you admit you struggle, you can't then get angry at misinterpretation.
"Jim Sterling is a fucking awesome writer but, Jim Sterling is a terrible journalist. No offense to Jim. it’s a good thing. He is a funny guy and a passionate gamer. He cannot understand what journalism is because of internal bias"
Reading that back, is it likely to not be taken in a negative way? I can tell from later writing that you get frustrated by people taking the wrong meaning, but why not just predict what the wrong interpretation is, and remove it? Simply adding lines like "a lot of you fucking idiots won’t understand that I am not laying into Jim" doesn't work.
Ok, that's that out the way, my only other gripe is your generalisation of games "journalists"
"If you gave a fuck about journalism you wouldn’t even give a shit if the game was coming out on the Nintendo 64. You want controversy and opinions. You want to fully agree or troll."
I disagree there. I want to be a journalist who reports on gaming because I 1) give a shit about games 2) give a shit about the truth. I read newspapers because I care about the world around me and want to know what's going on. I wish the gaming world had a similar ethos, and in some respects it does. I read MCV and other industry mags which have "journalism" in, and very much enjoy them.
I think what you are referring to as "journalists" are the bloggers putting limited effort into anything, who are either interpreted as, or see themselves as, "journalists" and I agree with you that their not.
I think those are my only two points to make where I disagree, I basically agree with the rest, and feel your frustration. Though, I assume you already predicted I would write this.
Also, MGS4 isn't coming to the 360, I read it on Digg.
Workman is a game journalist rumor DEBUNKED
Seriously, your writing IS crap, but I loved every word of that fucking post. After all the bullshit that went down during that fiasco, it's good to see you get your redemption.
Also, Baby on Board!!! I loled!
Ron, do you want a hug? I'm going to give you a hug.
Seriously, this was a fantastic post. I respect you alot as a writer, even though you suck at it.
'Sorry. I’m calling you out. You care about having an opinion because goddamnit you know your shit. You have played games and YOU are just as much of an expert on gaming as me or as Niero, or as anyone else. If you gave a fuck about journalism you wouldn’t even give a shit if the game was coming out on the Nintendo 64. You want controversy and opinions. You want to fully agree or troll.'
Awesome, and agreed with, I fucking hate that side of gamers
Also this is a fantastic post, let the rage out Ron, we all need to do it now and again. :)
Ron was it YOU WHO SAID IT.
Or probably Konami.
But epic post, lul.
You could be the best writer in the world, and have nothing interesting to say in the least.
You however have a shitload of interesting stuff to talk about. It was fucking awesome listening to you rant about most of this stuff during CoD5.
Also, you're never going to get an apology from the internet assholes who try to debunk you as they are all far too busy calling each other "fanboys" and wanking to japanese cartoon tentacle rape porn (that is the technical term).
Ron your fucking amazing and I love you.
Also, you.
I love you
Goddammit Ron, that last pic is the most patriotic thing I've seen in my life. A dog wearing a flag with a bald eagle on top? Fuck yes.
Epic text is epic.
Seriosuly, good article.
But Ron its October 2008 and its not out and there is no announcement?
Ron Menatworkman is a true American hero. Who cares if he hates minorities? It's the American way. He's a pretty decent guy, if it wasn't for the constant rape but whatever it's cool.
I've believed you since you said this like what, 4 months ago? I have no reason to think that you'd lie to me, or to us, the community as a whole. We're buds. :P
Also, USA!
I love you.
Old!
Ron,
You and spacecat let me know that Mega Man 9 would happen and it did and it made me happy and made my have faith in game company's ability to get it right if they care enough and can make me enjoy games instead of just complaining about things.
In all my not good writingness, I salute you, as a gamer.
bra-fucking-vo, meng.
BETA KEY
I applaud thee, Sir Workmeng
Awesome Boobies is impresed by the fact you are a MArket Research Analyst, just like Awesome Boobies.
@ Ron
I'm there but it's just me and Buster right now.
Wow, I just realized I'm three fucking hours late. Sorry, I had to go to class.
I love you Ron
I can guarantee that MGS4 is NOT coming to the 360 EVER. END OF STORY. This one guy on Playstation 3 forums said that it's been denied by Konami and obviously, are you going to beleive someone from Playstation 3 forums or a Konami PR rep? Jeez Xbots MGS4 is never going to your shitty RROD console failure because sweet sweet Kojima-san would never do that to Sony ever because he hates money and junk. Go play Gayo 3, Queers of War, Gayble 2 and Biocock oh wait that games coming to the PS3 nevermind that game's great it's never gonna come to the 3shitty you know why they call it a 360 because when you see it youll turn 360 degrees and walk away 360 has no games RROD you have to pay for online enjoy switching 50 disks every 10 minutes Micro$oft sux
Ron Workman makes me penis erect.
There, I said it.
Also, keep dodging those NDAs when they pass 'em around. I need you to bring me that good insider, matlock gaming info.
It would seem you have a serious problem with journalists.
Show me on the doll where the journalist touched you, Ron. It's not your fault. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.
Fluffy Bunny misses you.
When did he ever say that he was a journalist? He just reveals shit.
Of course ron is a shitty journalist, thats not his job.
If I'm 50, can I get half of the key?
Ron Workman speaks the truth!! Yeah at this point I really don't care what happens to MGS4. I have a PS3 and have still yet to buy it.
I think there is a distinction between journalism and blogging that you're not addressing here.
Bloggers love to be the "first source" so everyone else will link to them and up their hits, therefore increasing the cashmonies. Where they get their facts from or how they present them is irrelevant; as long as it is first.
Journalism is a whole different story, one which I can't say I have any real experience with.
It sucks that you aren't getting credit where credit is due, but you said yourself that you're not any sort of journalist. With all the shit that bloggers get for posting untrue rumors, of course people are hesitant to report on stuff you've said because you're not a PR guy (no matter how accurate you are).
I think Nintendoll touched on an important line of distinction. Gameing blogs aren't necessarily gaming journalism. Journalism is "unbiased" reporting backed up by research. You can type whatever crazy shit you want on a blog. Writing though, is a key element in both of these, which leads to the blurring of the line between them. Destructoid isn't journalism, though it may try to have journalistic leanings at times. It is a blog.
Therefore, Ron Workman is a terrorist. And a damn good one at that.
Also, wieners.
Ron Workman giveth the beta key to me
p.s. This comment isn't stupid.
Haha... damn dude... do you feel better now?
Also.... LOL @ "Also, the reality was that I was drunk and hitting on a girl and said 'I already signed one' and they believed me."