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7:24 PM on 03.01.2008

My desktop at the moment is getting old, and i want to try some of these new fangled games like Doom, Quake, Crysis and Stalker. Oh and Supreme Commander (Got a demo of it sitting on my desk now for the past few months) too.

My friend has a good handle on these things, and as such went through dabs.com, making me a list of all the bits i need.

However, he's building to a budget i've given him, and now i've just realised... will the damn thing play modern games?

So... i thought... If i give the specs, the PC gamers can say "yeah you should be able to run x, y and z easily enough" (or not), giving me hope that i'm not going to be left in the yester-year, with a machine that dies with Wolfenstein 3d.

Specs (to be)
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ AM2 2.5GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte AM2 AMD 690G ATX DDR2 A L
Ram: OCZ Technology 2x1GB 240DIMM PC2-6400 DDR2 Platinum
Graphics: ATI RADEON HD 3870 512MB PCIE DDR4
Storage: Western Digital Caviar 160GB 7200RPM S300 16MB
PSU: Corsair Memory 550W VX PSU

A liteon DVD burner, Asustek case and Zalman cooler for the CPU finish it off.

Pretty names. Means nothing to me :/

It's going to be a 'downstairs' machine, so i'll be using headphones and onboard sound, and a 22" 5ms monitor. Haven't worked out which keyboard and mouse to get (to be honest, i'm starting to faint at the cost of this lot, it's £100 over my £500 budget so far), so i'm thinking the Microsoft wireless set for now, with an eye on the logitech one later, as their mice are pretty damn comfortable (I use the MX510 now).

So. Will that play modern games? I don't HAVE any really modern games, i mostly play Dawn of War, Guildwars and City of Villains/Heroes, but i'd really like to try some of the more modern things like Stalker, Supreme, Crysis, Tabula Rasa, Hellgate London and The Witcher.

I suppose the worst question to ask (most important too), is... is it worth upgrading for PC gaming? What is there on the PC barring MMOs, that's it's worth slapping down 2+ Xbox 360's worth of money for? My computer now (and the two laptops although one of them struggles on the net a little) browse the web, watch videos and do basic games ok... so i'm really planning this spending just for a 'gaming machine'.

Hmm.



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What's truly worth playing on the PC is easily playable on a decent laptop. Stuff like Audiosurf and the games the Rev promotes in the Indie Nation features. Build a respectable spec PC and use a slightly older game that was a benchmark for its time, something like Far Cry should do the trick and build to the specs of that, it should come in well within £500 and ought to play most reasonably modern stuff. Here's the most important thing to remember though.

You don't have to play Crysis.

Also, don't write off Microsoft hardware, some of the best keyboards and mice I've used have been MS.

Oh, and get Steam. Immediately.
"is... is it worth upgrading for PC gaming?"

YES

Current Stuff:
TF2
Sins of a Solar Empire
All of what you mentioned

Up Comming Shit:
Spore
Fallout 3
Starcraft 2


As for the parts you listed, drop that ATI and get an 8800. Id also recommend getting an Asus motherboard instead of Gigabyte, not that Gigabyte is bad, but Asus is just the best.

Also if you dont mind spending some extra money get another 2 Hard Drives and set up a RAID 5 array, its twice as fast and you can't lose any data as a result of a hard drive dying.
It will most definitely play Doom 3, Quake 4, STALKER, and Supreme Commander. It will probably play Crysis, although it might not run fast enough for your tastes. I'm betting it would play games like COD4 and The Orange Box as well, if you don't own them already.
Also, if you're buying the screen and you are going for 22" just for kicks, you might want to rethink it. Getting a smaller screen with a lower resolution will allow you to play at higher detail settings. I know I really like my 22" screen, but to play Crysis I'm going to have to turn down the details or run it in letterbox mode.
CaffienePowered said it right. 8800gt is what you want.

Also id have a look at what Intel processors you can get for the same price as that amd64. Not that its a bad processor, just that its old, and the newer intel ones tend to be better, for the same price. You'd also need a different motherboard, and if you do go with intel, get an asus p5n-e, its cheap and good.

Other than that... if theres lots of games you want to play, you'll probably want more than 160gb of storage. Youd be surprised at how quickly you can fill it up.

In any case, that pc should run crysis at high, with some tweaking to get all the obvious very high settings. It should be playable the whole game, although that means 20fps or so. If you can play crysis, you can play anything. Except maybe hellgate london, but you dont need to play that...
Oh sorry, by 20fps i mean at least 20fps. Should range between say, 22 and 35. Also crysis still handles nicely at 20fps, surprisingly.
That's a pretty decent machine. Get the Orange Box, and join in Friday Night Fights.
@aja - Actually I'd say go with the GTS, not the GT :)

But that requires a bit more of a splurge ;)
You could go with the Radeon HD 2900 card like I have. Its pretty cheap at the moment and most games play nearly at 60 FPS with the rest of my set up. But I could be saying this because I like ATI as a company better than Nvidia but I do think its the more "thrifty" purchase.

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