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Sony Rant Time:

So, after finally deciding to buy a PS3 (owning a Wii and Xbox 360 already), I've bought almost all of the really good games for the system and played a pretty good amount of all of them.

What follows are my issues with the PS3 as a video game console in general.


1. The exclusives that are worth playing are often a lot more flash than substance. Not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely gives substance (see what I did there) to gamer complaints back in the day when they were charging $600.00 for the system. Not really worth that exorbitant price for so much flash and not quite enough actual gameplay meat. Yes, I'm looking at you MGS4...even though I haven't finished the game yet, I'm seeing how a lot of it is a slog through cut scenes. Really cinematic and sometimes interestingly interactive cut scenes, but cut scenes nonetheless. Ten awesome minutes of gameplay, followed by half an hour of interesting but long and convoluted storytelling. I thought those went out with the PS2....yes, I know the MGS series has a long, convoluted history and needs to tell it...but cut scenes again? Really? I'd rather have more interactive chatter, some environmental things you could read/look at, and 'cut scenes; where I do actually have to pay attention a la God of War. Speaking of...man, God of War III is awesome...but over so soon. :( I guess that's cool, it is a cinematic experience and all....but Fallout 3 lasts upwards of 100 hours and can often be cinematic, like when I'm blowing Tenpenny's head off in slow motion for the thirty fifth time.





2. No 1080i support for so many games really f***ing pisses me off. I have an older generation HDTV - you know, a CRT heavy-ass kind - one of the first out the gate that enthusiasts bought, and Sony chooses to be assholes about it and not support older tvs with only 1080i and 480p. Motorstorm: Pacific Rift? Looks like total shit on my tv. No thanks, I'll go back to the beautiful amazingness that is Dirt 2 on my Xbox 360. Not to mention the fact that the gameplay of Motorstorm isn't even that tight and well-polished. Honestly, the PSP version does the same thing for a better price. Why don't I get a new HDTV? Well, because it has a 42 inch monitor and games that display in 1080i look beautiful enough to not convince me to get a new $1000.00 set just to play a couple of PS3 exclusives of questionable quality.





3. Yes, the PSN 'art' games like the good games of the Pixeljunk series are pretty awesome...but that's it? Really? That's all you got??! I've been playing all kinds of amazing Xbox Live and Indie games on my 360 for years now and the PS3's library is laughable. Not to mention the archaic demo download and 'buy the code' thing...I know its the same concept on the 360...but wow, do they make it frakkin' confusing. I downloaded the demo to Pixeljunk Eden, deleted the demo when I finished it, and then later that day bought the code and spent the next 15 minutes trying to figure out where the hell the game went. Um, why didn't my system sense the game was missing and just re-download it? FAIL. That's pretty much the exact opposite of user-friendly. Oh yeah, the Warhawk demo feels like when I play-tested Star Wars Battlefront Online and talked about how terrible the controls were for the next two hours. At least I got paid $150.00 for that experience. Warhawk... Got anything to say?





4. Playstation HOME. The rumors and speculation are all true. This whole 'Second-Life wannabe' (which is sad in itself) marketing scheme is such a spectacular failure. I tried to play some dorky minigame involving kicking some sort of ball into score posts last night only to be informed that I was the 23rd person in a queue. Buhhhhh uh...wait, what?!? Since when are gamers willing to wait hours in a line to play a f***ing virtual minigame? I spent the next five minutes running into people on purpose, spinning in circles and announcing "I AM ERROR" and "TAKE THIS, IT WILL HELP YOU ON YOUR QUEST." Then I did the robot for another three minutes, got bored and returned to my virtual space, where I spawned some blank lawn chairs and sofas and tried stacking them. I decided to try out the mall to liven up my space and lolled heartily at the idea of buying an "Egyptian Set" of furniture for ten real dollars. I don't think I'll be returning 'Home' anytime soon, if you get my drift.





5. PSP Remote play. I thought this was such a cool idea. I got all excited and started hooking up my PSP3000 to the PS3 via the incredibly short USB cord that serves as a controller wire when the thing runs out of batteries (side note: the control nub in my original series PSP broke and became seemingly unfixable after several attempts and Ebayed control nubs straight from Hong Kong. Oh yeah, and my Sony H2 12x zoom Carl Zeiss Lens camera that took amazing photos? It has a little focusing problem where the shutter button broke after an unspecified amount of time. Look it up, seems to be an unfortunately common experience. Take that, RROD...) Then I learned that only a very small handful of games support remote play. Then I wept and threw up in my mouth a little bit.

So yeah, my foray into the world of the AMAZING NEXT GEN PS3 has been a little...tepid. God of War III is an amazing game, no doubt. The Uncharted series blows me away. MGS4 has some really interesting ideas and ways to tell its story. LittleBigPlanet is infinitely replayable. Killzone 2 is a solid shooter, although a little on the generic side. But none of it quite trumps everything that has been put out either as an Xbox 360 exclusive or as an amazing multi-plat game for whatever system you may have.

Just to clarify that I'm honestly not an Xbox 360 fanboy - I do own all three console systems and both the DS and the PSP. I love my Wii (especially all of the awesome homebrew stuff people have done with it, and some really great concepts with the remote and nunchuk..), I love my DS (Scribblenauts, The World Ends WIth You, and Warioware Twisted, shout out to you all), I love my PSP (LittleBigPlanet PSP is such a great deal except when it corrupts your save files), I love my Xbox 360, and I try my hardest to love my PS3, even though we've had some difficulties in the past. Also, just to understand exactly where I'm coming from - I'm on my third Xbox 360 because of RROD issues. I was incredibly frustrated both times my old 360's broke, but I used it as an excuse to get outside more and do more hiking on the weekends rather than staying in and playing games for hours. Yeah, I had my Wii and PSP at the time...but I chose to see it as a sign of sorts.

The 360 is not the greatest piece of hardware. In fact, it falls in the same vein as most Microsoft products - works great when it works, makes you want to die when it doesn't. But you know what is great? A megaton of Third Party Support. An open enough platform to allow people to create cool little Indie games and sell them for a buck a pop. A willingness to LISTEN to gamers and mold the online experience to fit gamer expectations.

The whole reason I 'turned to the dark side' and bought a PS3 was because my older brother finally went 'next gen' and bought himself a PS3 and one of the games he got with it was Call of Duty: World At War. Realizing I could get the system and game cheap and finding myself with a recent influx of money, I went ahead and got both and some other PS3 games. I spent the next couple weeks building my library and enjoying great PS3/PSN exclusive games.

I've played the PS3 online with my brother all of two times in the last month and a half. He's a busy guy, so I don't push it. In the meantime, I find random strangers on my 360 to play RDR with and have a total blast. I have a headset that came with the system and does its job just fine. It doesn't cost upwards of 40 bucks. I also have a few friends from other places on the 360 while the only other person I know who has a PS3 is an estranged cousin-in-law, and his system is broken and his wife hates videogames anyhow, so that's a no-go.

I admit I was biased and a little fanboyish when I got my 360. But Sony made it kind of easy to make a choice at the time. Now, so much time has passed and I've grown to not care about brand loyalty so much as playing good games, and have thus become much more objective about videogames and the systems they came from.

However, Sony as a company is so far separated from the average gamer that they come off - STILL AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS (yes, it has been years since the PS3 was unveiled, kiddies) seeming like douchey assholes who want to make a quick buck and STILL understand NOTHING about what videogamers actually want.

The PSPGo and Sony's sad excuse for its failure are perfect examples of this. I haven't bought a single PSPMini - even with my ol' broken UMD supporting PSP300 and I don't plan to do so anytime soon. I can't even get a trial version of most of the games easily anyhow, so what is going to convince me to buy any of them?!?

Idiots.



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Wow, your panties must be in a really hard knot after writing all that.

About Remote Play ... Since you were bitching about everything else under the sun you didn't mention that it's way too laggy to handle games decently. I'd love to play my library of PSOne titles remote... there's just no goddamned way for anything remotely challenging. It's good for crossbar stuff, playing music off the PS3's hard drive, downloading, checking PSN, etc.

Metal Gear Solid... it's been the same way for like 14 years now. You signed up for some long-ass movies when you bought it, so why are you all like WA HAPPEN?! when you get one? You're not coming up with a laundry list of complaints about Metal Gear Online so you probably need to try it... it's the game mechanics from MGS4 (and more, you get those nanomachines like Rat Patrol) and no movies. Nothing beats house to house fighting using the link system to see all of your teammates' targets and attackers through walls etc.

Uncharted games are really good if you're into single-player stuff, you should go find everything you can complain about with those and maybe try more online games since they have a lot more depth... I've only played a little Resistance 2 but its co-op campaign mode looks really solid. There's MAG, Demon's Souls, and Warhawk. Yeah Warhawk, it cartoony but it's got kickass 4-player online game.
Sounds like money well spent. :P
I think both consoles have a great selection of exclusives. There are those on either side that feel like flash really.I won't lie though, I'm thinking Xbox in general just has more to offer with it's service and this that's why you pay for it. Noticing now as a new 360 owner what you get I can see why regardless of if I totally agree with it, that it's a paid subscription service. PS3 doesn't put much into their extra online features because the fact that online is free is a feature unto itself.
@Rigby, While I agree with much of what you said, it's important not to piss off or alienate PS3 only owners; think of them as the 360 owners of tomorrow. :)
The thing with Warhawk is that it has a large learning curve, probably the largest I've felt this generation. If I jump in a match after a few months of being away, it'll be a diaster. After you get the hang of them, then they become more than servicable. The controls of the hawks are so tight, especially with pro flight, that I literally cannot play another flying game. Trying to play Dark Void or use the banshees in Halo 3 just feels so "off".

But in regards to everything else, to each their own.
@ PvPPY - I definitely am not disagreeing as far as MGS4 goes and signing up for another Hideo Kojima masterpiece, and I'm sure Metal Gear Online is great if I actually jumped into it. I have Metal Gear Solid Portable for PSP and its pretty great, and have always loved the series intensely, but I'm nowhere near close to completing it and until I do, I won't be getting Peace Walker. However, the fact that the game proper would be pretty short without the cut scenes bolsters my case about flash vs. substance. So I used it. :p

Also, I mentioned Warhawk briefly...I don't like the controls...I mean, I intentionally left out its failure to support 1080i because that's a moot point, but I spent at least an hour just trying to come to terms with the controls in Warhawk. I'd rather go back to Battlefield... hmm...maybe I should get the latest one soon...

@Corduroy Turtle - I'm not really a hater, I just feel bad for Sony's myriad failures in marketing and understanding their consumer base. I was up until 3:40 AM last night zoning out to Pixeljunk Shooter. I love videogames, and I want to love all of the systems that provide them. I love the PS3 games I've played, but at every turn (except for the kind-of-cool photo slideshow function that recognizes my tags and displays exact date and time), the PS3 seems to want to say, "Hey! I suck at making you feel like I'm intuitive and understand you as a gamer! Come buy some crap from virtual malls which are even more terrible than the real thing!" Whereas with the 360 I jump in and its like, "Hey, we're retarded looking avatars but we're having an awesome party! Come hang out with us! We're your friends"

I still love my PSP, even if it is my second one. If anyone knows a failsafe way to fix a controller nub, let me know. My other PSP is crippled. :(

@garethxxgod - Yeah...the paid thing sucks. I even pay more than most people because I'm too cheap and short-sighted to go for the $50.00 a year thing (I should do that, now that I have some money...hmmm) - so I've paid the $8.00 a month for too long. At the same time though, the PSN service still seems kind of rudimentary and confusing when I'm trying to browse games, game videos, game demoes, etc.
@KwikPwn -Ha, yeah...I mean, now that I'm sort of on the other side as well, I just don't get the raving fanboyism. I mean, I don't get it from the 360 side either, but when PS3 owners jump into a thread and have to defend the system like it is their LIFEBLOOD it just seems...kind of...well, really...sad.

@CelicaCrazed - Granted, the couple of times I actually made it into a Warhawk, the controls were really responsive until I exploded two seconds later from an oncoming missile - the on-foot stuff is kinda janky. I got run over several times simply because I was still trying to come to terms with the overly-complicated layout.
@Rigby

Regarding the $50 per year thing, you can get 14 months right now for the price of 12 directly from your 360 dashboard ($3.57 per month). Pretty close to the deals you can get from Amazon (normally around $3 per month). Definitely a better investment!
@mrandydixon - Oh, there's a deal right now? Looks like I'm signing up for that! ...
This blog is more of a rant on the issues and disappointments you've had with the PS3, and less of a "Why the Xbox 360 still wins out over the PS3, at least for the next 5 years...". While I don't regret purchasing a 360 instead of a PS3 back when I made the decision, I do wish I could trade it for a slim now. Also, what happens in five years?
@Lil Jorsche - the argument is - honestly, be happy with your Xbox 360. If I only had my PS3 Slim, I would seriously regret trading in my 360. While I had my Xbox 360, I so strongly wanted to play all of the cool exclusives on the PS3. And now, even though I actually have two copies of Red Dead Redemption, I've played through and played online until I got a good horse on the 360 version while leaving the PS3 version sitting in its Pre-order exclusive box (long story as to why I pre-ordered both.) I'm still waiting for my bro to get his act together so we can play the PS3 version online co-op.

As for the next five years...from a God of War 3 perspective, the technology in the PS3 is leaps and bounds above the tech in the 360. The game is capable of seamlessly jumping from huge, enormous perspectives to intimate ones with multitudes of undead soldiers without a single hiccup in framerate. You don't believe how amazing it is until you get to play it. However, tech doesn't mean jack if there aren't enough clever, innovative game designers out there designing awesome games. This may change in the next five years, hence the disclaimer of sorts. One game isn't worth a whole system, but the PS3 does have enough exclusives now to justify a purchase...
Wow....just looked at prices for the Wireless Adapter. If there's anything Sony is miles ahead of Microsoft is wallet friendliness. Sony doesn't want to do bad things to my wallet all the time, where as Microsoft wants nothing more than to give to her rough. My wallet is pressing charges as I type this.
Yeah, I forked over the dough when I first got the system. Haven't really thought about it since though. That is an annoying costly add-on (plus the subscription prices), but the adapter does work pretty well with broadband connections, etc. It's not built-in wifi, for sure - but they do make having a live connection worth it...
The rod up your butt must have a rod up it's butt. (I actually didn't read your thing only because TL;DR, but I just wanted to say it just once)
And that rod is called a PS3.

Hey....shit sucks. I just gotta call's it like I see's it.





...nah just kidding, PS3's okay.


Sony still sucks.
So what your saying is you enjoy a new Halo every year, Gears and Fable every 2 years. Rinse, repeat.

Gotcha.























Just kidding. :)
Great article buddy. I also have all 3 systems and have been less than impressed with my PS3.
@Rigby - <i>However, the fact that the game proper would be pretty short without the cut scenes bolsters my case about flash vs. substance. So I used it. :p</i>

That's exactly my point with Metal Gear's online mode. The game has more substance (haha MGS3 joke) than you can shake a stick at. Calling it all flash is as wrong as a statement can be. Some game modes have you playing as main characters of the series doing objectives against teams of guys playing regular soldiers... that's as legit as it gets for MGS gameplay, taking on 14 real live guys as Solid Snake / Rex.

Also, in case you missed it, you need Demon's Souls.

I bought a PS3 first and what bugs me about both of the other consoles are the ridiculous nickle-and-dime purchases after the fact. Stuff like rechargable battery packs ... and then more battery packs for every extra controller, LIVE, scratch warranties on all your 360 discs (where applicable, like sucks to buy rare games used / on ebay / etc), Wifi adapter or long-ass network cable from the office to the living room like some kind of caveman. Remote + nunchuck + gamepad just to put one more player on Wii.
Whatever businesses MS and Nintendo are good at, they sure as hell aren't consumer electronics.
I all honesty, I haven't purchased the PS3 yet for some of these reasons. Mainly, the exclusives aren't enough to push me over the edge. A friend let me borrow his PS3 to play Metal Gear Solid 4 in hopes that I would "see the light". What I saw was a highly overrated game. I kinda feel the same way about God of War III. I'm not going to purchased a system just for 7 hours of hot gaming sex.

Honestly though, I have trouble enough keeping up with all the games I want to play for the systems I already have. If I go throwing another system in the mix I'll just be completely overwhelmed.

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