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GAMES ARR ARTZ
Revariance \| 2:19 PM on 12.15.2009	14 comments

So let's start a discussion D-toid. I'm really curious as to what you guys think.

So, are games art? Or not?

I personally don't look back on the original Legend of Zelda and think how artsy it was. I look back fondly on it's music as art, though. Which of course I firmly believe that music is art, and who would disagree?

So that begs the question, are games just 'craft'? Or do they truly transcend into the realms of art? Is art just completely subjective? Or...have video games just not been around long enough when compared to film and photography? In 50 years will we finally be at the point when a video game can be called art without a second thought?

I'm well aware that this is well-tread ground, but I think it's still a very valid discussion.

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11 comments | showing # 1 to 11

Monodi

I think everything that someone creates or performs and keeps developing it with passion with a spirit of improvement can be art.

I cannot think how something cannot become art. Even politics and being a lawyer.

socialnorms

Art, or fine art? Games are the product of human creativity (well, most of them - the others are just uncreative but tap into cliches to survive), they stimulate the senses, all that definition stuff...

I think because they stimulate the senses and promote a reaction, they are art. Fine art is a relative term, although one that I believe in because Green Day and Kid Rock exist, and I need a way to separate anything worthwhile from them. But I think some games have given me an experience (oh God! ahh! ahh!) that has been on par (to me) with some of the best cinema and graphic design and music.

Naim Master

Art is entertainment with a higher meaning, you had a SoTC picture in your blog, case closed.

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D-503

This is a tired, old question. Of course all games are art, even the original Legend of Zelda, every painting is art despite the quality. But an important aspect of art is looking for those pieces that can relate something to the deepest beliefs and ideas we have within our civilization. Usually when we ask the question "Are video games art?" we're asking are there deep, meaningful video games. And of course there are 3/4 of the screenshots you posted above are blatantly deep and emotionally stimulating games, that move beyond "just" entertainment. The third can be debated. And if you can debate the artistic quality of something, it's definitely art.

Monodi

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Pixelated Lilac

To me, games can be art, but at the same time must differentiate themselves as another medium to which art must occur.

Okay, I sound like Vulcan Raven on opium, so let me be a little more clear.

I think the way games are art are through their gameplay. Games like SotC, Portal and Braid provoke emotion not just because of their storyline but also because the way the gamer experiences them. Another way is through experiences that a game can provide that other mediums cannot. If Infinity Ward can display the tragedy of nuclear warfare through gameplay better than a movie can than more power to them. In summation, if videogames can provoke emotion with deep gameplay... then I don't see why it shouldn't be considered art.

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