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I'm Reece from England. I'm a newly-recruited News Writer for gaming site Explosion.com, and its all thanks to this here website and blog! I love it here, I love this community and I love to write. I'm always willing to read your blogs here too, so maybe we can be friends!

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I've been into gaming since I was about 4 years old, playing the Game Boy, PlayStation 1 and Sega Mega Drive (Genesis to you Americans! Damn you, stealing the better names). Having these systems around during my youth lead to the greatest and most-anticipated Christmas ever - the year I got my N64!

Ever since then I've been playing any and every game I can get my filthy mitts on, no matter what system or genre. I currently have a Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3 and a 3DS. Come on Vita, get more games so I can buy you too!

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Yup, boiled. I gave that disc a nice hot soak in the frying pan in my kitchen. It was broken, you see. We all need a hot relaxing bath to restore and refresh our tired bodies sometimes – even video games. Well, that’s not entirely why I did it. So what series of events could possibly lead me to carry out such a maniacal endeavour? I’m glad you asked! 'Cause, y'know, I've gone and written a blog post all about it.

The victim was Lost Odyssey, a fantastic 360 exclusive that I’ve recently got round to playing. It’s a rather large RPG held across four discs, and a few weeks ago I had reached the finale that is disc 4. Over 40 hours of gameplay later and I was prompted to insert disc. I obeyed, only to be greeted with an error. I was devastated! Now I’d never see the ending, or get round to exploring and completing the side-quests as I had planned. Sure I could buy another copy of the game, but I couldn’t simply wait for a new game to be delivered. I’m a gamer, so I want everything now.

Because I’d been playing the game for so long, it meant the return period had expired too. I couldn’t really complain because it was a steal on eBay, especially considering the amount of fun I’d already had. Being locked out of the final section of an amazing game is maddening, however. I had to find a way.


Guys, I know we all love Jansen, but sometimes I've just got to burn him. Its for his own good.

Many of you may have heard of the toothpaste method – you can fix scratched discs by rubbing fluoride toothpaste all over their shiny underside, which fills in the cracks and evens out the surface, so that the laser can once again read it correctly. I’d never heard of such a thing before myself – mainly because I take good care of my games my babies. The odd thing about all this was that the disc looked fine. There were one or two light scratches, but nothing more than you’d expect from even a fully-functioning game, and I wasn’t sure if there was really anything there that a bathroom substance could fill in. Having read about the toothpaste fix across the Internet and how it has such a high success rate of fixing games though, I decided to give it a go all the same. The disc was worthless at this point, so what did I have to lose?

About four or five squeezes of toothpaste, actually. Yeah, it didn’t work, as I suspected. After all, the disc didn’t really have any visible scratches to fill in. I used a disc cleaner on my Xbox too. It already played other games fine, but I was desperate. That didn’t help either, and I was puzzled. What sick twist of fate was this? What could possibly be preventing this game from working? That’s when I decided to ask Google. Whenever I have a question, no matter how obscure or trivial, Google is there, like some digital agony aunt/wise man that I turn to. It seemed unlikely at the time that many would be experiencing the exact same problem with the exact same disc of the exact same game, but again: desperate times.

To my surprise, the issue was common. Dozens of forum threads appeared in the search results, created by people who once shared my pain. The solution that kept appearing seemed less than regular, however: submerge the disc in boiling water for a few minutes.

I laughed at the premise. Oh, you Internet trolls. What next? Dry it off in the microwave? That scepticism began to fade, however, as the solution became more and more frequent, and delivered with such sincerity. Could it actually work? Well, if toothpaste can fix video games, maybe anything was possible. As I read more, I learned that disc four of Lost Odyssey was packaged in a sleeve in new copies (mine was of course pre-owned), which left a very thin invisible layer of residue on the disc that prevents it from working. It must have been deeply embedded into the disc, as apparently it can’t simply be rubbed off, with hot water being the only removal tool. Well, I still had nothing to lose.

Even though the disc wouldn’t work anyway, I hesitated as I lifted the boiling kettle, Jansen’s face on the disc staring back at me, his eyes silently begging me to reconsider. But I forced myself to flip over the disc and pour the water, and stared intently. I don’t know how discs work – would it not snap, melt, explode, scream in agony? I left it there for a few minutes, and sure enough faint traces of the residue appeared on the water’s surface.


My disc is immortal - just like Kaim!

I dried it off and ran back upstairs, all giddy. I put the disc in, and while it got further than it had before, it still got stuck in a few attempts. I took the disc down to once more submerge it in boiling liquid, as I had likely been too impatient before and took the disc out before all the residue had been removed. Another intense watch of the cleansing disc, and another giddy run up the stairs. Another error. It wasn’t over yet though, because I could try installing the game. When I tried installing before, it would reach around 20% and throw another error at me. It happened this time, too, but it kept getting further on the installation bar at every attempt. I kept watching and hoping, thinking maybe I'll get lucky and reach 100% this time. I bet you never thought a loading bar could become so intense.

More errors taunted me, but it progressed further and further each time, and I kept trying.Suddenly, the game had installed past the 90% mark. Could this be it? There were many times during the installation when the machine stopped making noise, which usually meant it was ready to give up and show an error. It seemed my Xbox shared my determination this time, however, and gave it all it had, resuming its duty. Only 5% left. The sound again dropped and the bar stopped. I like to think there was an epic digital battle raging inside my Xbox, between the disc and the system. 3% left to go. Another moment of dead silence after the loud humming of the Xbox. There was no way that it could give up on me now!

Thankfully, it reached that glorious 100%, and told me pleasantly “the game has been installed successfully”. I had finally lifted Gongora’s curse on my disc! And I could resume my playthrough.

Over a decade ago I was blowing my Game Boy and N64 cartridges to get them working again. Now I’m rubbing bathroom substances onto discs and cooking them in my kitchen. It was a funny experience that I had not had since my youth – that desperation and the tension as you can only sit, wait and hope for a broken game to realise your effort and start working again.


I guarantee it was this sly bastard casting a spell on the final disc. He's aware of my unmatched gaming skills and did it just to stop me kicking his ass in the final battle.

If anyone reading has any stories of fixing damaged games, please share! Have any of you discovered strange fixes for your games? Have you too felt the relief of seeing your beloved, broken game working again?

When we inevitably enter a completely digital age, its unlikely we’ll have to fix physical games again. This is great as scratched discs are always a pain, but still, blowing and rubbing our games (oh yes, ha-ha very good... grow up will you?) feels almost part of being a gamer.

My biggest surprise from this whole affair was how accepting my parents seemed upon seeing me squirting toothpaste and boiling an Xbox disc. Perhaps they think I’ve lost it and find it best not to ask. It’s probably the best philosophy if you live with me.



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I just can't help but wonder, after all of this, weather a resurfacing machine would have worked on it, what with that weird residue it had on it and all. Also, out of curiosity, what, if anything, did the boiling water do to the artwork on the top of the disc?
This is a genius blog.

I never had to fix a game per se, but my PSP-1000 UMD tray got broke and I had to sellotape it back in every time I opened it.
Awesome and engaging blog post, and I've tried the toothpaste method as well as a few other crazy methods to fix broken games, though with much less success. I did once fix an older model PSP after dropping it on the floor too hard by dropping it again with the same force. It was a last resort effort and mostly done out of frustration, but when that thing emitted the familiar Sony branded console noise after bouncing a couple times, no sweeter sound was ever heard.

I wouldn't recommend that fix for most things, though.
I had actually never heard of the tooth paste method before this blog. I don't have any games that have completely stopped working though, only some that give errors every once in a while, so I'm probably never going to try it on those. I do have some regular DVDs though which I declared lost to the ether, so maybe...
@stubbleman Believe it or not the label on the disc was not affected at all. I expected it to peel off due to the high temperature but when I pulled the disc back out it was the same as before I put it in. And all these years I've been treating these things as tender, fragile objects! Now I'm wondering if they're actually indestructible.

@PK493 @Casey Some crazy PSP fixes there! I never owned one myself, but heard from many people about buttons breaking. I can only hope I won't need to tape or bounce my 3DS.
@ShadeOfLight Its worth a go as it can't damage them further. I thought before that even a splash of water could damage a disc and I would have assumed that using toothpaste and running it under a tap would be out of the question, but well, you read the blog.

On a slightly off-topic note to any blog-writing veterans out there: is it not possible to include strike-through text in a Dtoid blog? You'll notice the sentence "my games my babies", where in fact "my games" should have a line through it. You know, for HILARIOUS effect. Still a bit of a rookie here. I couldn't find the option and the code on this page didn't work for me: http://forum.destructoid.com/misc.php?do=bbcode#-

I guess that's just for the forums?
I fixed one by rubbing it really hard on the carpet and then cleaning it off. Not sure if it wiped off residue, buffed out scratches, or both. Worked though.
@ Stubble - Getting it resurfaced most likely would have worked as they actually remove layers of the disc, "thinning" it out, and it's my preferred method as it's difficult to tell a disc has been resurfaced if done properly (no game doctors :|)

@Reece - Nah have at washing them, when discs don't work I run em under the tap a lot, just gotta dry it off not let it air dry otherwise those impurities stack up on there and it'll have problems reading it.

Contrary to what you'd think water is actually fine on most those things, you can wash the boards in your xbox etc, just as long as their is no power going through em. You should use alcohol though as water leaves stains on the boards and alcohol doesn't since it evaporates so fast.

Other weird fixes include baking your video card (to reseat the solder) and freezing your hard-drive when broken (since the metal expanded, this won't fix it but it'll let you use it long enough to pull the data off).

Blowing on your games however is bad :| Don't do that with carts, clean em with a q-tip and alcohol and use the wiggle method, much better. Oh and hitting shit doesn't work. People love hitting shit because it used to work, but that was back when stuff was mechanical and it helped because something got stuck, but nowadays we don't have crap tons of moving parts to get stuck it's just circuit boards so you're just making it worse.

@ Legendhead - You probably gave it a lot more scratches, would still play but....
Oh and I don't thin there's strike-through but if there was it'd probably be [s]strike through[/s] or [-]strike through[/-]
I used to have to turn my whole PS1 upside-down whenever a game froze, and weirdly, it would get me another fifteen minutes or so of play. And this may just be me, but did anyone else ever find themselves being “nicer” to whatever broken game stuff they tried to get working?

I almost miss the days when I could just blow on a cartridge, I tried to play Skyrim today and had to get up and restart the damn thing five times in about an hour and a half.

Lovely blog , also, the strike-through bb code is [strike].
The toothpaste has worked for me twice, but failed once. I do have one stubborn disc that I'm actually going to try this method on, now that I know it can work.

PS - Seeing Jensen's face brought back some fond memories. Great game.
"You probably gave it a lot more scratches, would still play but...."

This is technically accurate. Thing was, these newer scratches were smaller and shallower than the deep one which was there there to begin with. The disc didn't work before and ran fine after I did that.

Not recommended though for obvious reasons. As a matter of fact I wasn't even trying to fix anything when I did that. I just pulled the disc out and started grinding it on the ground because I was pissed. It really was one of those instances where everything went better than expected.
Also, this was a really soft carpet too. I should probably point that out. It wasn't like, "the ground" or anything. Heh.
@Handy

First I rage at my console, before pleading with it to work. It usually works after I promise it homemade dinner and a night in.
I've never heard of the toothpaste method before. Weird!

I haven't had to fix games that often, but I had to fix fat PS3 a couple of years ago back when I was playing FFXIII. Something happened with the laser where the game would get stuck, then finally my PS3 stopped playing games. I bought a replacement laser and swapped it out myself. That was the most intense computer repair type thing I'd ever attempted. It worked for a couple of weeks, but the replacement laser was actually worse than the original one. I swapped them again, sold FFXIII (not fast enough), and the thing lasted up until a couple of months ago.
I do not think I have ever had a disc not work that I have personally owned. Though I have had friends scratch some of my old discs...which is why I never, ever, ever, allow anyone to borrow my things. Thankfully I have not had to worry about this too much.

I did just get my parents' old Wii and they had a bad A/V cable, that was an intense moment when I did not know whether it was the cable or the Wii itself. Thankfully after getting a new cable, it worked like a charm.
@ Legendhead - I realize the scratches you gave it weren't bad enough to effect it and you probably rubbed off the affecting sheen, but nonetheless you gave probably gave it a ton of scratches :P
Fun blog! Yeah, it's amazing the fixes you can find on the internet... though the bravest I have gotten is using duct tape to hold my headset together! :)
That is an awesome story. I had tried the toothpaste trick on used games I have purchased before but to no avail. The only similar story I have is how I fixed my old original Playstation. I ripped off the cover that held the laser in place and had to play with the system upside down just to get it to work. Sometimes I would cast a protection spell on it too if needed ;)
@Handy Thanks! Your username is rather appropriate here. I fixed it and made a few more corrections in the blog.

As always, thank you to everyone commenting. I read them all and its fun to hear your stories - keep them coming!

I've never heard of the upside-down PS1 thing, despite playing loads of games on that thing back in the day. One time my Xbox wasn't recognising discs, and I read a solution online that some may have encountered before: if you tap hard on the top of the console just after inserting the disc (I used the edge of my Xbox controller) the vibrations somehow help the system recognise the disc. So actually, @Dao2-SKP, hammering stuff can help fix it! But nah, I know what you meant. :)
This is amazing! This blog gave me the courage to finally try this method on a very rare copy of Mega Man Legends 2 that I paid way too much for, which had been loading but freezing in the same spot every time. I figured boiling discs was just internet trolling but it really worked for me. I'm not sure about the condition of the whole disc, but after doing this I'm now an hour past the point where the game previously hung!

What I did exactly was boil water, then pour about half an inch into a bowl, place the disc in the bowl for 2 minutes. I did this twice and it's now working.

Thank you so much!
@ScottOfTheDead That's awesome! Was that game also packaged in a sleeve or some other strange way? I assumed that it would only work in this scenario and not for every game, because of the way Lost Odyssey's disc was packaged and left the residue. Thinking about it, though, maybe it can also eliminate deeply embedded dust or dirt on other discs that can't be reached by rubbing with a cloth.

I'm wondering if anyone else on here who played the game had the same issue too. It could have been only packaged this way in Europe, who knows.
Its funny because like ScottOfTheDead. I too have a very rare copy of mega man legends 2 that is scratched.

I ONLY used the toothpaste method and it didn't work.

Maybe I'll try boiling water......
You guys really should get it profesionally resurfaced... it costs like $3-5 depending on where you go.....
This is one of the greatest blog posts I have ever read. I was really rooting for you by the end!

Also, thanks for sharing that trick. I haven't had a disc error since my wayward college years but now I know what to try if I do get one.
>You guys really should get it profesionally resurfaced...

You mean buffed, right? Like when they remove one big scratch with a whole lot of tiny ones...yeah, science is awesome.
What an awesome blog!!!
@ Legend

No, really what they're doing is thinning of layers of the disc. Granted because of the process there will be scratches, but so small you couldn't see them with the naked eye if it's done by a good machine. You'd get scratches like that just from taking it out of the case and placing it in your system....
@molamolacolacake @Andy Thanks! It means a lot. You're all awesome for commenting.

Its a bit late but just to clarify to anyone who would like to try the toothpaste fix, make sure you use the pure white baking soda toothpaste, as the gel stuff won't work.

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