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Short list of reasons L4D2 can be seen as an expansion
Ratsor | 12:26 PM on 12.03.2009 12 comments


Let me start by saying I LOVE LEFT 4 DEAD 2. I had no problem paying 50 bucks for it (Suck it 360 players, oh and you aren't very good teammates). I play it a lot



1. No achievements for old things.

There are no achievements for doing anything that can be done in the first L4D. Go ahead, look. http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/left-4-dead-2/achievements/ The only special infected achievements are those for the new specials. The only thing that was even close is "In a Versus round, leave the saferoom to defibrillate a dead teammate." but even that is defibing a teammate and not just saving them. Most of the time sequels have at least some sort of repeat achievements. They don't even have the "Kill **,*** zombies" or a variation on that. Most sequels will have something that builds off previous achievements such as Gears of War 2's active reload achievement or the better example of Seriously 2.0


2.The old special infected look fairly similar still.

Sure, there is now a female boomer for no apparent reason and the smoker has cancer and the hunter is sleeveless but generally speaking, they are the same. They have 1 or 2 things different but all look very similar still. The blur when the hunter pounces is nifty looking though.


3. On the PC, both install as 1 game.

You can look at this yourself too. Go into your control panel and click to uninstall programs. Look for Left 4 Dead 2. It doesn't exist. In fact, there is only 1 L4D entry and it says "Left 4 Dead" and it's 5.11 Gigs with both installed. Now maybe this means that L4D2 just doesn't show up on that list, but that smells awfully fishy to me.


Ok, like I said, I LOVE Left 4 Dead 2. This isn't complaining. The new campaigns are fantastic (damn you Doctor Who for making me use that word so often) and scavenge mode is the perfect little pick me up if you don't have 2 hours to play. These are just things I saw and was suspicious about.



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armless-phelan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 13:03
armless-phelan
I thought we'd stopped the Left for Dead 2 argument. And Achievements aren't that old, so I fail to see how they can be used in an argument.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 13:05
Monodi
Whenever I am playing a Valve game on my PC and for some reason it starts running slow, when I start the Task manager, the program is named as "hl2.exe". Just saying.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 17:15
Naim Master
1- So? That's how all achievements work, with new things only... No one complained about that in GoW2...

2- The Smoker has a completely different strategy, a shorter range but quicker "reload"; the Hunter now does more damage, changing his strategy too, he's no a pawn anymore; the Boomer is the only one that's still the same, but "he" gained a completely different model...

3- Like all Valve games ever?
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 17:34
de BLOO
"Suck it 360 players, oh and you aren't very good teammates"

Fuck you too bro.

Besides most people that it on the 360 play with other Dtoiders, you know, friends?
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 17:47
Blasto
What de BLOO said, but with the inclusion of the word "play" ;)

I would love to play against you in versus, with my shitty 360 playin'ass. LOVE IT.

Also, who gives a shit.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2009 00:43
Xzyliac
Guys, guys, he's clearly in a time warp and doesn't realize outside of his head we're all 2-3 months past this argument. Just let him be.

Also, what de Bloo said.
Ratsor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2009 09:20
Ratsor
I'm not arguing ANYTHING. I thought those were just weird things I noticed. I have absolutely no problem paying 50 bucks for this game. and to the last 3 commenters, have you played it on PC? There is virtually no friendly fire because everyone is aiming with precision and even the people without mics can communicate.

Oh, and I don't think everyone should be given a mic on LIVE, it's full of douche bags that just complain and make fun of people. Not exactly conducive to a game like this.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2009 13:43
Blasto
See, some people CAN aim precisely with a controller ya know. I rarely friendly fire, ask people I play with (I've played with DE bloo here a few times for example). Do a lot of randoms suck? Fuck yeah. But if you have enough Toid pals, that's a non-issue. Anyone playing this game with randoms is doing it wrong. I just get sick of hearing PC gamers bitching about 360 and making crass generalizations because they don't have any 360 friends to play with.
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