With the upcoming release of the NXE, and all the coverage it’s getting from DTOID and other sites (Red vs. Blue of all places) I thought it would be a good idea to find some more info about it on my own. So last night I receive a link to a site called Cheapassgamer.com. It is a link to its forum and a thread about the NXE. This thread however is not about the NXE as a whole, but about the new feature to be able to install games. My overall opinion on this feature, is that it will be very useful for prolonging the life of you XBOX 360, the less time the DVD drive runs, the less chance it will crap out on you, and the less heat it will generate, so less chances of RROD.
The users posted on this thread how much space was required to install games.
Here is an overall list, for more check out the
Thread
Ace Combat 6........................[6.4GB]
All Pro Football 2K8................[5.0GB]
Alone in The Dark...................[6.5GB]
Amped 3.............................[6.7GB]
Army of Two.........................[5.7GB]
Assassin's Creed....................[6.7GB]
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts.........[6.6GB]
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat........[6.6GB]
Battlefield Bad Company.............[6.5GB]
Battlestations: Midway..............[5.5GB]
Beautiful Katamari..................[3.4GB]
Big Bumpin'.........................[Not Supported]
Bioshock............................[6.1GB]
Blazing Angels......................[3.4GB]
Blitz: The League...................[6.4GB]
Blue Dragon.........................[19.9GB]
Bomberman: Act Zero.................[3.4GB]
Brother's in Arms: Hell's Highway...[5.2GB]
Bullet Witch........................[5.2GB]
Bully: Scholarship Edition..........[3.4GB]
Burnout Paradise....................[3.4GB]
Burnout Revenge.....................[4.4GB]
C&C: Tiberium Wars..................[6.6GB]
Call of Duty 2......................[6.0GB]
Call of Duty 3......................[5.8GB]
Call of Duty 4......................[6.7GB]
Call of Duty: World at War..........[6.5GB]
Cars................................[5.2GB]
Civilization Revolution.............[6.3GB]
Clive Barker's Jericho..............[5.6GB]
Club, The...........................[5.2GB]
Colin McRae Dirt....................[6.4GB]
Command & Conquer 3.................[3.6GB]
Condemned: Criminal Origins.........[5.4GB]
Condemned 2: Bloodshot..............[6.8GB]
Crackdown...........................[Not Supported]
Culdcept Saga.......................[5.2GB]
Dance Dance Revolution Universe.....[3.4GB]
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2...[3.4GB]
Dark Sector.........................[3.4GB]
Darkness, The.......................[6.8GB]
Dead or Alive 4.....................[6.8GB]
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2..............[Not Supported]
Dead Rising.........................[6.6GB]
Dead Space..........................[6.6GB]
Devil May Cry 4.....................[6.7GB]
DiRT................................[6.4GB]
Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit...........[3.4GB]
Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires..........[4.0GB]
Dynasty Warriors 6..................[6.8GB]
Dynasty Warriors Gundam.............[5.6GB]
Earth Defense Force 2017............[3.4GB]
Enchanted Arms......................[6.7GB]
Eternal Sonata......................[6.8GB]
F.E.A.R.............................[4.0GB]
F.E.A.R. Files......................[6.8GB]
Fable II............................[6.8GB]
Fallout 3...........................[5.9GB]
Far Cry Instincts Predator..........[4.9GB]
Far Cry 2...........................[4.5GB]
FIFA 09.............................[6.0GB]
Fight Night Round 3.................[3.4GB]
Final Fantasy XI....................[6.7GB]
Final Fantasy XI Vana'diel..........[6.7GB]
Flatout Ultimate Carnage............[4.9GB]
Forza 2.............................[5.3GB]
Fracture............................[4.1GB]
Full Auto...........................[3.4GB]
Fusion Frenzy 2.....................[3.4GB]
Gears of War........................[6.5GB]
Gears of War 2......................[6.7GB]
Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter.....[5.2GB]
Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter 2...[6.8GB]
Golden Axe: Beast Rider.............[6.4GB]
GRID................................[6.6GB]
GTA IV..............................[6.8GB]
Guitar Hero II......................[3.4GB]
Guitar Hero III.....................[3.4GB]
Guitar Hero Aerosmith...............[4.5GB]
Guitar Hero: World Tour.............[3.4GB]
Gun.................................[3.6GB]
Halo 3..............................[6.3GB]
Hitman: Blood Money.................[5.8GB]
Infinite Undiscovery................[12.5GB]
Juiced 2............................[5.7GB]
Just Cause..........................[5.6GB]
Kameo: Elements of Power............[5.9GB]
King Kong...........................[6.5GB]
Kingdom Under Fire Circle of Doom...[4.3GB]
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend......[6.7GB]
LEGO Batman.........................[6.0GB]
LEGO Indiana Jones..................[4.4GB]
LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga.......[5.8GB]
LEGO Star Wars II: Original Trilogy.[3.4GB]
Lost Odyssey........................[23.2GB]
Lost Planet.........................[6.8GB]
Lost Planet Colonies Edition........[6.7GB]
Lost Via Domus......................[4.2GB]
LOTR: Battle For Middle Earth.......[4.4GB]
Madden 2009.........................[6.7GB]
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance...........[5.9GB]
Mass Effect.........................[6.8GB]
Mercenaries 2.......................[6.4GB]
Midnight Club: Los Angeles..........[6.0GB]
Mirror's Edge.......................[5.7GB]
Moto GP 06..........................[4.6GB]
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja.............[5.3GB]
NBA 2K9.............................[3.4GB]
NBA Live 09.........................[6.3GB]
NFL Head Coach 2009.................[5.8GB]
NFS Most Wanted.....................[6.8GB]
NHL 07..............................[3.4GB]
NHL 09..............................[5.7GB]
NHL 2K8.............................[6.7GB]
Ninety Nine Nights..................[5.6GB]
Ninja Gaiden II.....................[6.8GB]
Oblivion............................[6.7GB]
Orange Box, The.....................[4.7GB]
Outfit, The.........................[6.8GB]
Overlord............................[3.4GB]
Perfect Dark Zero...................[5.3GB]
Phantasy Star Universe..............[6.8GB]
Pocket Bike Racers..................[Not Supported]
Prey................................[5.0GB]
Project Gotham Racing 3.............[6.2GB]
Project Gotham Racing 4.............[6.0GB]
Pro Evolution Soccer 6..............[3.4GB]
Quake 4.............................[5.9GB]
Quantum of Solace...................[6.8GB]
Rainbow Six: Vegas..................[6.7GB]
Rainbow Six: Vegas 2................[6.6GB]
Ridge Racer 6.......................[6.5GB]
Rock Band...........................[5.2GB]
Rock Band 2.........................[6.3GB]
Rumble Roses XX.....................[4.5GB]
Saints Row..........................[6.8GB]
Saints Row 2........................[6.8GB]
Samurai Warriors 2..................[6.6GB]
Samurai Warriors 2 Empires..........[3.4GB]
Scene It............................[6.8GB]
SEGA Rally..........................[4.2GB]
SEGA Superstars Tennis..............[3.4GB]
Shadowrun...........................[4.3GB]
Simpson's Game, The.................[4.7GB]
skate...............................[6.8GB]
Sonic the Hedgehog..................[5.6GB]
Sneak King..........................[Not Supported]
Soul Calibur IV.....................[5.9GB]
Space Chimps........................[3.4GB]
Spider-Man 3........................[3.7GB]
Spider-man Web of Shadows...........[6.2GB]
Splinter Cell: Double Agent.........[6.8GB]
Star Trek Legacy....................[5.7GB]
Star Wars: The Forced Unleashed.....[6.6GB]
Stranglehold........................[6.7GB]
Stuntman Ignition...................[5.8GB]
Superman Returns....................[3.4GB]
Table Tennis........................[3.4GB]
Tales of Vesperia...................[5.9GB]
Test Drive Unlimited................[3.5GB]
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09.............[6.0GB]
Timeshift...........................[5.8GB]
TNA Impact!.........................[6.8GB]
Tomb Raider Anniversary.............[6.4GB]
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland......[5.0GB]
Too Human...........................[6.2GB]
Top Spin 2..........................[5.4GB]
Turok...............................[6.6GB]
Two Worlds..........................[3.4GB]
Universe at War.....................[6.8GB]
Unreal Tournament 3.................[6.4GB]
Virtua Fighter 5....................[4.7GB]
Virtua Tennis 3.....................[4.1GB]
Viva Pinata.........................[5.0GB]
Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise....[5.2GB]
Warriors Orochi.....................[6.4GB]
Warriors Orochi 2...................[6.8GB]
Wartech Senko no Ronde..............[3.4GB]
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2007...........[6.8GB]
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008...........[5.8GB]
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2009...........[6.6GB]
Xbox Live Arcade Compilation Disc...[5.9GB]
Now, from this list (and others along the forum posts) I can venture a guess to say that the majority of games will not be larger than say 7 gigs to install on your HDD. The only games that go above that are Lost Odyssey (23.3G), Blue Dragon (19.9G), and Infinite Undiscovery (12.5G). You can however install each disc separately with no problem it seems (as one user states a couple of pages into the thread) I don’t see a problem with this, but what is a little bit strange to me, is that some titles are not supported. All 3 Burger King Games are not supported (who cares?), but also Crackdown and DOA Extreme Beach Volleyball 2 are not supported. I’m not really surprised that the burger king games are not supported, but Crackdown is a surprise seeing as it is a pretty main stream game that I’m sure a lot of people do own, quite strange. As of my posting this blog, I have not seen anymore note worthy exceptions to the games we will be able to install when the NXE comes out.
EDIT:
Here is a list provided by BlindSideDork, that shows what improvements the install feature actually gives the games.
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Who cares about the Burger King games? I care about the Burger King games. But other than them, I'm sure I'll take advantage of this for the smaller games, since space is always at a premium on my hard drive.
Yeah, I saw this last week and was so utterly unimpressed and disgusted. Most of the installs only really do a barely 10 second quickness to a loading time.
Only problem with that...usually the loading times were 50 seconds which means it is not a significant decrease in loading and virtually unnoticeable. Talk about a waste.
Really, Blue Dragon? 19.9 gigs? Really?
I can't even fit that onto my lame 20 gig HD, because it's magically reduced to 12 gigs before even touching it.
I knew Necros would say something about the Burger King Games. Also, if you were a little bit more selective on your DLC Necros maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Also, here is a better list, it actually shows how some of the games are "improved."
Thanks BSD Ill add it to the post.
Looking at that new link from BSD, doing this hardly seems worth it. Maybe installs would be useful with something like Oblivion or Fallout, where you load every time you enter/exit a building. Otherwise, meh, I can wait the extra 10 seconds.
This seems like a bit of a waste, especially, since most people still have the 20GB hard drive.
Goddamnit! My burger king games aren't supported.
It's optional right?
100% optional.
The best thing about the Installs is that the 360 is now QUIET AS SHIT! I plan on installing all the games I'm playing. Hell, I even installed Lost for shits and giggles.
I won't be doing it, since I only have a 20GB HD and I can wait an extra 5-10 seconds
If you think about it though, those effect add up over time. If I can save say 15 seconds per load in Gears of War 2, and if I were one of those people that would go for the "1999" achievement where you play 1,999 games, that adds up to over 8 hours total saved. And thats just one game. Heck I'm sure I woulda shaved off 10-20 hours off my Lost Odyssey play-through had I had the game installed. Its all a matter of the long-run.
It may extend the life of your DVD drive but I can guarantee you your HDD isn't going to thank you.
I foresee lots of dead MS HDDs in the near future.
@ Seltzermx
I've been playing through Lost Odyssey and I haven't had any problems with load times. They've all seemed really quick to me.
The only reason I want a new hard drive is that so my xbox doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner anymore.
I'm picking up a 120GB HDD soon, seeing as though I can really only install 1 game at a time on my 20/12GB.
I installed Bully, since I'm finally getting into the 360 version. Found that the load times are cut slightly, and it's not as choppy as it normally is.
But I was really wanting this to stop the loud disc drive. Definitely throwing RB2 on once I get a larger drive.
I should get a new HDD, but I don't want to spend so much on so little.
Does anyone have any clue how long these install times will take?
Bah, get back to me when MS starts selling empty HD shells that I can put my own 2.5 HD in.
Is there an easy way to transfer my data from my 20 gig hdd if I buy a 120 gig hdd?
@The Bez:
There is a transfer cable available on microsoft's website for free.
@the Bez
If you buy a new 120GB HD like I did, you get a disc and transfer cable that does all that for you. It took about an hour to transfer everything.
Regardless of load times (which, I think, any little bit helps), keeping the damn DVD drive silent is a big enough boon that I will do this with whatever game I am currently playing.
Also, I don't think you need to keep all every disc of a multi-disc game installed at the same time, people.
I was so pissed that Earth Defense Force 2017 isn't helped at all by installation. The loading times really bothered me (considering missions end fairly quickly) and I was looking forward to playing it on the hard drive.
Bummer :(
is this the only thing installing does? slightly improve loading times and decreasing chances of offline lag? cause if so, i honestly don't think it's worth it. Also, i'd rather have the console RRoD than the HDD overheating and causing all my data to get lost
This is going to accelerate my time table for upgrading the hard drive. I've been sitting with a 7 gig or so buffer but with 1 game and a demo that will be chewed up.
Finally I can install my beloved Bomberman: Act Zero.
Makes me glad I have a 120GB elite! :D
I still have like 95GB that needs using.