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I think it should be pretty clear that since I'm here, I'm a gamer and I would love to discuss them. Just like everyone else, I have my opinions about the current state of gaming and how I think it's good in one way and bad in another way. Quite frankly, I think the gaming community in general is pretty awful, like with console fanboys, but Destructoid looks to be different. However, don't expect to find me on the forums since I plan on sticking to the main site and the c-blogs. I should note that I'm very opinionated about stuff. I can easily find flaws in just about anything even if others don’t agree with me on them. To an extent, I'm also a perfectionist.

I own the original PS2 model, a Wii, 80GB PS3, Pro model 360, and the original DS and PSP models. Just because I own all of them doesn't mean I value them all equally. I don't own too many games and I rarely buy them. I mostly play games by renting through GameFly since even the really good ones don't keep me playing long enough to justify buying them. I'm not just able to easily replay a game a second time through even if I really enjoyed the first time. I tend to only buy games that I feel will have great replay value, which usually means getting a game on the PC that can be heavily modded.

I’m also rather lonely when it comes to my friend lists on the 360 and PS3. Anyone mind helping out?

The following games I'm looking forward to playing off the top of my head include:

Crackdown 2
Fallout: New Vegas
Metroid: Other M
ModNation Racers
Rage
Super Mario Galaxy 2
The Elder Scrolls V (although not officially confirmed yet)

Game(s) that I’m playing now:

Bioshock (PS3)
Left 4 Dead 2 (360)
Red Faction: Guerrilla (360)

Game(s) that I'm currently waiting for GameFly to ship out...

Nothing right now...

Last updated: 04/26/10
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This c-blog is pretty short compared to most of the others I written since there really isn’t a whole lot to say.

If there’s one thing I noticed from various opinion articles on this site, from both the staff and community members, is that this c-blog’s title is what most of them boil down to. That’s not to say that makes the points made in those articles or c-blogs invalid, but I think that’s something worth pointing out. Generally this tends to happen on a wide range of increasing controversial video game topics. It’s almost like you can’t defend your views of a topic without at one point or another not just simply disagreeing with the other side(s), but pretty much saying that their side is so bad that they shouldn’t even say anything further about it. Personally, I find it harder to take someone’s side of an argument even if I agree with it because of the elitism that often comes with it. But you could argue that elitism comes with almost anything even when expressed in the nicest ways possible.

For those that it applies to, do you really think that telling someone you disagree with to STFU will suddenly cause them to do just that? Do you really think you can just silence the other person’s opinion (no matter how stupid) and effectively win your side of the argument? You wouldn’t stop your side of the argument if someone told you to STFU now would you? So I don’t know if people who say STFU really expect someone to just stop whatever their saying or just letting out anger.

This is not just limited to what people find downright stupid, but even somewhat annoying. Oh who am I kidding? In video game communities these days, almost everything is serious business. This is subjective much like many other things said, but wouldn’t your side of the argument look better if you appeared more levelheaded? I know you can still get tons of people to agree with you if you flat out rip the other side a new hole and there are people who enjoy seeing others getting ripped apart with the harshest words possible.

However, does it really help the angry gamer stereotype? Now I know everyone doesn’t care what non-gamers think of gamers, but if you don’t like that angry gamer stereotype, then does venting your anger at every random person online you think is stupid help disprove that stereotype? Can’t have it both ways. I mentioned that because I feel large aspects of the gaming community are creating these stereotypes which in turn many gamers react even angrier too, further fueling the stereotypes.

Although it could be read as such, I’m not telling anyone to stop. In fact, it wouldn’t be my right to do so especially since I don’t have authority over anyone on this site. People will keep fighting over anything that can be fought over. I just merely want to bring this light, even if considering how popular I am around here, very few people will actually see this (especially with no pictures) and even then it doesn’t mean they have to agree with me or even tell me not to STFU. This whole last paragraph could even be me attempting to come off in a way that shouts “don’t flame me!” Maybe, maybe not…



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.. I haven't actually noticed much of the STFU type comments - what I've seen are people disagreeing and discussing topics in depth in a somewhat intelligent manner.

Then again, I'm on some pretty good drugs for this cold I've got, maybe it's the dayquil/nyquil speaking (and that stuff is AWESOME!)

(or maybe you refer to the front page stuff... in all honestly I rarely bother to read the comments there, I tend to stick with the c-blogs for actual discussion on a topic)
I tend to stay away from articles that devolve into this type of pointless shouting match. I like real argument and discussion. For the most part I think this site does a good job of it. I also think the blogs are better than the front page for intelligent debate, unless you can learn to ignore the noise and talk with those who are actually analyzing the topic at hand.
Yes, I do tell people to STFU (not exactly) if they're being rude and only seeing their side of the argument. Actually, forget that, being rude alone is enough.

Like my mom says "You can tell anyone to go fuck themselves in a polite, level headed manner". Just don't take that literally. xD

Anyway, maybe it's just the internet, but forums, anonymity and an audience usually equal chat-speak and rudeness (Total Fuckwad Theory). Funny how those two are related.

Going on a tangent here, in English class, we discussed how the most succesful people don't bother reviewing their grammar and spelling, because they're "too busy and important for minor things". Like basic communication. I think that's bullshit.
I'm not sure where you're coming from exactly. Like Elsa, I read the front page articles and for the most part ignore the comments (ESPECIALLY on reviews). If you're looking for intelligent, rational discourse about games and game-related topics, the C-blogs and forums tend to have a reasonably erudite level of conversation, provided that the original poster put some effort into their blog or topic. That said, one of the founding principles of the site is, in fact, STFUAJPG-- the first part you understand, of course, but the last part is an acronym for "And Just Play Games." It's kind of ironic that you say this, because STFUAJPG as a philosophy means that we shouldn't get tied up in all the fanboy dick-waving and angry nerdrage that games tend to attract and accumulate. It means that games as a whole are primarily a form of entertainment, and taking them too seriously sucks all the fun out of the experience. Just my perception, of course... your mileage may vary.
I tend to pass off people who say stfu as ignorant in general. Give everything at least one chance is how I like to come at this site, it tends to keep the stress off and the aneurysms down
Yeah, what they said. I've actually been impressed with the maturity of some of the recent discussions on the c-blogs that could have [i]easily[/] devolved into a pissing contest but remained civil and mature.
I agree with Elsa, Nyquil is fucking AWESOME.
These comments are gay. You fags need to STFU.
@Elsa: Yup, mostly the front page c-blogs where I tend to notice this or the ones that get a lot of comments.

@Enkido: I notice this tends to happen a lot for articles that put either the PS3 or 360 in a positive or negative light, including their communities. It basically gets to a similar level of fanboy wars that happens on most other sites. I think many don’t even bother with the c-blogs since they tend to be harder to find and a post on them won’t be seen by as many people.

@Aslani: Oh yeah, can’t forget how the Internet in general is ripe for much more nasty behavior then how people normally act in person.

@Qalamari: Oh yeah, reviews certainly are the worst, especially since people are not used to this site having an average score of 5 out of 10 instead of 7 out of 10 like most other major gaming websites do. Popular games that get low scores (even as low as a 6) have comments full of people that act like the review will affect their enjoyment of the game. STFUAJPG would save everyone a lot of trouble, but it seems like things get more and more serious in the gaming communities every year for people to get very vocal about. Even the previous console generation looks a lot more peaceful by comparison.

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