Hi, I'm Rab. I like games.
Ever since I could remember, I've always wanted to have a career that somehow allowed me continue to be involved with them. For that reason and pretty much that reason alone, I'm going to college and learning about the different components and things that go into the videogame industry. I like to analyze videogames and see what makes them tick. If a game sucks, I want to understand exactly what makes it suck so hard. To this day I'm still not sure exactly how I want things to pan out, and I don't exactly know what it is I want to do within the game industry, but I know it's going to kick ass.
I like the consider myself a pretty well rounded person when it comes to taste in videogames. As long as the game has well thought out mechanics and fun gameplay, I'll atleast give it a shot.
My Sweet Ride:
Games I Currently Play Alot: CAPCOM vs SNK 2
Shadow Complex
Megaman 9
Trials HD
STREET FIGHTER 4 YOU SON HOF HA BEETCH BYSON
Consoles I Hab: Xbox 360
Xbox
Playstation 2
GameCube
Super Nintendo
Nintendo DS
Sega Dreamcast
Gameboy Advance SP
Gameboy Color
Consoles I No Longer Hab: Nintendo 64
Playstation
Sega Genesis
Sega CD
NES
According to EventHubs.com, Capcom's Christian Svensson has stated that the final roster for SSF4 has long been decided.
"Is there any chance of a character poll for Super Street Fighter 4?
Sven: To set expectations the game is rather far along and one of the FIRST things we did was sort out what the roster would be. While we're happy to accept additional feedback for future titles (if they should exist at some point in the future), the ship has pretty much sailed for Super Street Fighter 4."
This goes in hand with the recent statements made by Seth Killian that Capcom will not be having a Poll to decide on characters to be added, like they did for Vanilla SF4. Seth has also said that we should be hearing an announcement on more new characters before Christmas.
Check out the whole article here.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/nov/17/sven-final-roster-ssf4-was-decided-early/
From that, it looks to me as though the original rumored characters may actually be true.
•From Street Fighter 2: Dee Jay and T. Hawk. •From Street Fighter 3: Dudley, Ibuki and Makoto. •From Street Fighter Alpha: Adon, Cody and Guy. •Plus two completely new characters. (Juri and Hakan)
Looks like no Birdie :(
Also, check out this video walkthough with Seth Killian, posted on G4TV.com today. Alot of Deejays moves seem SUPER safe, particularly his dreadkicks and even a blocked ultra. Apparently his MAX OUT comes out even faster than Guiles Sonic Boom. He looks like he's gonna be really really beastly. He's pretty strong and can easily combo his ultra if he lands a jab on you.
c.lpx2> c.mp> ex dreadkicks> ultra.
nasty.
@puppy
just updated the post. for the most part it's just me being cynical and presumptuous, but I'm assuming that this news confirms the previous rumors to be true. You know, all those characters that they said were going to be in it. I mean, most of the rest of that stuff has turned out to be true.
@shin oni
what?
SF4 was a gamble for Capcom to begin with. Most of them didn't even want to do it because they thought it would just be a wasted investment. The thought of a sequal was an afterthought, man. Before SF4, mainstream fighting games were dead as fuck other than the deep fighting scene.
And actually, they did at one point want to have a couple of polls, Seth and other representatives said that a while ago, but they decided against it because they didn't want to disapoint/be liable if they werent able to make the poll'd character work. They talked about it this week when they interviewed Seth on the 1Up podcast.
i'm talking after SF4 was a big hit via arcades. Granted, SF4 would've been big no matter what considering everyone was asking for a sequel. Look at it now, the overall crowd agrees SF4 sucks but we continue to play it/support it.
I don't mind the game at all. My only big problem is the fact I don't care for half the cast still. Dee Jay gets shafted until SSF4 when he should've been there from the get go. Guile just plain sucks, and outside of that, I don't see many people I really wish to use. but that's on my own hate.
seriously. Capcom's been fishing for a SSF4 since day 1 of popularity from SF4. Then the fact Ono spilled the beans on T.Hawk and Dee Jay basically done but not being added fully into the disc. That's when everyone got smart and smelled SSF4 or some type of redo on the way.
Who the fuck have you been talking to? Honestly? Blazblue and smash players? Bitter SNK fans who blame SF4 for the failure of KOF12? Honestly, what the fuck are you talking about?
Sorry bro, Guile isn't bad at all. Sure he's not top tier but believe me, he's not bad. And how is that even an argument? "Oh my favorite character isn't braindead easy to win with, fuck this game!" The dude is C-Tier with fuckin heavy hitters like Honda, Abel and Dhalsim, and you can't tell me that you think THEY'RE bad or I'll just assume you've never played with anyone but the AI. I fucking love Guile. Don't be mad just because you don't know how to use him, man.
"Capcom's been fishing for a SSF4 since day 1 of popularity from SF4."
Oh shit, a developer made a successful game and wants to expand on it based on the things that their fans want. Fuck Capcom, how fucking dare they.
Don't you pay attention, man? Capcom is doing what fucking GOOD developers do and LISTENING TO THE FANS. Again, SSF4 is a HUGE fucking gamble for them, and yet they're still choosing to put all this fucking effort into the game, re-balancing, new stages, new specials, new HUD, bonus stages, new cutscenes, new endings, new ultras, 8-10 new characters, a whole fucking insane new online network system, whatever the fuck else hasn't been announced, and releasing it for way less than normal retail price, all while shooting to appease the FANS.
Because the fans are the only ones that are buying Street Fighter. This shit isn't main stream yet by any means and I fuckin dare you to try to say otherwise. They're putting enough faith in the Fighting Game community to make this whole thing even worth the fucking effort.
You tell him RAB.
SF4 is not perfect, I agree.
Is it my favorite fighting game? no. Does it has problems? yes. Is it the best first version of a street fighter capcom has ever released? yes. Looking back at alpha 1, world warriors, cvs1, sf3 new generation, Sf4 is the most balanced and complete game of them.
I'm not a fan of the art style I would rather have sprites and I really wanted Rolento and Q in ssf4. But you can have everything.
I'm anxiously waiting for it and counting the days till i can get my hand on it.
Blazblue on the other hand that game is shit. And its update will have like two new characters and balance changes ssf4 will have a lot more.
"From that, it looks to me as though the original rumored characters may actually be true. "
Based on? That assumption makes no sense.
Guile is also pretty awful in 4. No offense if you main him, but he is. I admit Honda is pretty bad, too. The focus attack system is so fucking stacked against charge characters that it's ridiculous. Which leads me to this: Shin Oni is right, SF4 is awful compared to other SF games.
Sick post guy. Am i the only one who thinks DeeJay is looking alittle overpowered? AfroLegends is gonna be stoked. I guess we'd need to see frame data to be sure just how safe DeeJay's shit really is though. Was anyone paying attention to what new specials armor break in that video?
@ chuchoyei
"Is it the best first version of a street fighter capcom has ever released? yes."
I like SF4, but still, I can't say I've met alot of seasoned SF players who think SF4 is the "best" SF. Pretty much everyone I've talked to at the Chinatown Fair who plays SF4 feels that 3rd Strike (some say Alpha3 or SSF2T) is the superior game. I personally like HD Remix the best. And it's debatable that SF4 is the "most balanced" SF too. Alot of people don't like the crouched throw teching, the sometimes awkwardly restrained feeling high-level matches have, the simplified special commands which are sorta lame, and (nothing new here i know) the cartooney 3D art style (char's eyes popping out before being ultra'd and shit like blanka's goofy 2nd costume) really ruins the feel that I'm playing a SF game, think about how gritty the original SF2 was by comparison.
Sorry for the rant, and that being said, I do generally like SF4 though, and capcom is pretty cool for releasing SSF4 to begin with.
Capcom is only listening to their fans because Actually Good Fighting Game Design won't make them any money. It's sad, but it's true. I know one person in the flesh who will play Third Strike with me. Everyone else says things like "where's guile? where did everybody go? this is bullshit!" or they say "i just don't like it. it's stupid." and i look at their face and i know it's cause it's not exactly like SFII.
Can someone tell me why juri's ultra meter is purple? is it just a cosmetic thing or does it mean something?
"YOU motherfuckers know damn well I was tryin' to listen to Boy George and The Culture Club singin' KarmaKarmaKarma Chameleon."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xda_x2md6XI
@ chuchoyei
"I like SF4, but still, I can't say I've met alot of seasoned SF players who think SF4 is the "best" SF. Pretty much everyone I've talked to at the Chinatown Fair who plays SF4 feels that 3rd Strike (some say Alpha3 or SSF2T) is the superior game."
What version of street fighter 3 is third strike? third. What version of street fighter alpha is alpha 3? third. What version of street fighter 2 is st? fifth. What version of street fighter 4 is street fighter 4? first.
I'm not saying sf4 is the best street fighter it is not. But for being a first version it is pretty good. It has problems but as a first version it is the most balanced this is comparing it to alpha 1 which was almost like a beta version for 2, world warrior which didnt even have reversals, and street fighter 3 that doesnt even feel like third strike.
I figured it was cause she's SIN. Which makes me believe that Seth would get a purple ultra meter in this one too...or something.
I personally welcome Dee Jay. T.Hawk I don't care for but sure why not.
I do agree that some of the alpha choices could've been better. (I like Adon and all but there are many other popular and interesting characters to revive.). I figure Guy/Cody need to be in the Final Fight Category and gives capcom a excuse to add Hugo as Andore just so he won't be labeled as a 3s character entry.
and then that leaves the alpha category open for Karin/R.Mika/Birdie/Dolls. Rolento goes under final Fight. But that's me just thinkin.
I'm still waiting for the Super Street Fighter 4 Turbo announcement. This is all intriguing, but its capcom...there will be a 3rd iteration of 4. Hopefully with Makoto, just because she's an interesting moving character.
@ chuchoyei
Yeah, true, as the first iteration of a SF game it's probably the most complete, even if we consider only the arcade release (and not the console version), it's still the same deal. Somehow missed the "first" in your sentence. Other than new characters, didn't some stuff, like the hitboxes of tiger shots, end up getting altered in the console version?
I agree with Cataract on the Alpha 2 being the best.
Shin Oni has great points, but I SF4 very enjoyable and looking at it on the great scheme of things, SF4 is one of the most balanced SF games in SF history. To each his own on SF4 and where that is taking the franchise.
Yes 3rd Strike is great, but parries(just like Focus Attacks) screw over charge characters like Remy. Also, 3rd strike is horribly unbalanced.
Also manasteel you're pretty misinformed.
Capcom is projecting to sell only 1 million copies of SSF4. That less than half of what SF4 sold. This could very be the last iteration of Street Fighter for a long ass time.
Hmm... they seem pretty adamant about there being 8 new characters including T. Hawk, Dee Jay and Juri. 10 would be the whipped cream on top of the icing on the cake for me.
I'm actually pretty happy with what has been announced but no Birdie is very disappointing :-( Honestly, he is so awesome!
I kind of liked the old machinegun uppercut motion but I guess I can deal.
Deejay may too strong. Why should he be able to combo into ultra so easily? Maybe it's a really tight link? He's bad-ass either way. And so is T. Hawk.
Are you kidding me? 3rd Strike is leaps and bounds more fun than any other fighting game capcom has ever released, IMO. It is what got me into fighting games. The characters, the fighting system, the look, everything is so fun and goes and such a perfect pace. Plus its way easier to play than any other SF game for so many reasons(mainly because no charge supers).
@Booerns
The graphics were touched up a bit for consoles, i.e. the character portraits got more work on them too.
@protomark
It is because her second ultra is selected(notice it has "II" and the green ones have a "I").
@dan citi
i never liked 3rd strike much. too steep of a learning curve for me to ever want to get serious about, plus it's horribly unbalanced. not fun.
3rd Strike is too technical for my blood. Something about pressing forward to parry never clicked in my brain, it seemed like it went against all forms of fighting game logic to me.
Which is why I preferred the "Just Defense" system from Mark Of The Wolves.
@RAB
I think it is lots of fun except for Gill. I really don't mind that it is unbalanced(not that is a good thing, playing Remy, Sean, or Q against Chun is a bummer), the way the game feels as a whole is just so much better than any other SF.
It is a combination of the mechanics, characters, look, sound, etc. that make it more fun to play than the other games in the series. Would I like it to be rebalanced like HDR? Would I like them to change the ugly HUD/interface? Of COURSE! But that isn't going to happen any time soon, so I just gotta run with it as is. mode.
Like MvC2's balance is probably even more out of wack and I have tons of fun with it. I don't really have a reason to get serious about a fighting game so the balanced of it never killed it for me. Plus, I got into far before I knew anything about balance, hit boxes or anything of that nature really. I knew how to do characters moves and a few other basic things and that's all I needed. I played SSFT2 before hand, but never thought it was all that, SF3 was the first fighting game that made me think, "wow this shit is awesome I wanna learn more about these games" of course I played Tekken 2 and 3 on the PSX when, but I never thought of it as a fighting game, my young mind just thought it was some badass action game.
Also, the announcer in the video you posted is amazing!
In a perfect world, my perfect fighting game would be MOTWII. It would have the rumored Joe Higashi student, some gameplay additions(maybe that "clash" thing from KoF12), be in HD, and for some reason have some SFIII characters in it like Dudley, Ibuki, Necro, Makoto, Q, Remy, Alex, and Yun. Well I guess you can put in a redesigned Ash Crimson instead of having Remy.
Also it would have all the cool online shit from these recent fighters like BB and SSFIV.
Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just speak your mind. We respect differing opinions on the site, so have at it. Be smart, funny, insightful, clueless, or cute -- but back it up with substance. Keep your cool, keep it fun. We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox. Each comment is your opportuntity to make this community awesomer. Is that even a word?
Avoiding the banhammer only requires common sense: spamming, trolling, racism, NSFW stuff, and other forms of sucking will not be tolerated. If anyone is griefing please report abuse. Be good. Don't suck!
RAB's blog
Follow
RSS
Contact
just updated the post. for the most part it's just me being cynical and presumptuous, but I'm assuming that this news confirms the previous rumors to be true. You know, all those characters that they said were going to be in it. I mean, most of the rest of that stuff has turned out to be true.
no Karin = not at all happy in the end.
what?
SF4 was a gamble for Capcom to begin with. Most of them didn't even want to do it because they thought it would just be a wasted investment. The thought of a sequal was an afterthought, man. Before SF4, mainstream fighting games were dead as fuck other than the deep fighting scene.
And actually, they did at one point want to have a couple of polls, Seth and other representatives said that a while ago, but they decided against it because they didn't want to disapoint/be liable if they werent able to make the poll'd character work. They talked about it this week when they interviewed Seth on the 1Up podcast.
I don't mind the game at all. My only big problem is the fact I don't care for half the cast still. Dee Jay gets shafted until SSF4 when he should've been there from the get go. Guile just plain sucks, and outside of that, I don't see many people I really wish to use. but that's on my own hate.
seriously. Capcom's been fishing for a SSF4 since day 1 of popularity from SF4. Then the fact Ono spilled the beans on T.Hawk and Dee Jay basically done but not being added fully into the disc. That's when everyone got smart and smelled SSF4 or some type of redo on the way.
Who the fuck have you been talking to? Honestly? Blazblue and smash players? Bitter SNK fans who blame SF4 for the failure of KOF12? Honestly, what the fuck are you talking about?
Sorry bro, Guile isn't bad at all. Sure he's not top tier but believe me, he's not bad. And how is that even an argument? "Oh my favorite character isn't braindead easy to win with, fuck this game!" The dude is C-Tier with fuckin heavy hitters like Honda, Abel and Dhalsim, and you can't tell me that you think THEY'RE bad or I'll just assume you've never played with anyone but the AI. I fucking love Guile. Don't be mad just because you don't know how to use him, man.
"Capcom's been fishing for a SSF4 since day 1 of popularity from SF4."
Oh shit, a developer made a successful game and wants to expand on it based on the things that their fans want. Fuck Capcom, how fucking dare they.
Don't you pay attention, man? Capcom is doing what fucking GOOD developers do and LISTENING TO THE FANS. Again, SSF4 is a HUGE fucking gamble for them, and yet they're still choosing to put all this fucking effort into the game, re-balancing, new stages, new specials, new HUD, bonus stages, new cutscenes, new endings, new ultras, 8-10 new characters, a whole fucking insane new online network system, whatever the fuck else hasn't been announced, and releasing it for way less than normal retail price, all while shooting to appease the FANS.
Because the fans are the only ones that are buying Street Fighter. This shit isn't main stream yet by any means and I fuckin dare you to try to say otherwise. They're putting enough faith in the Fighting Game community to make this whole thing even worth the fucking effort.
SF4 is not perfect, I agree.
Is it my favorite fighting game? no. Does it has problems? yes. Is it the best first version of a street fighter capcom has ever released? yes. Looking back at alpha 1, world warriors, cvs1, sf3 new generation, Sf4 is the most balanced and complete game of them.
I'm not a fan of the art style I would rather have sprites and I really wanted Rolento and Q in ssf4. But you can have everything.
I'm anxiously waiting for it and counting the days till i can get my hand on it.
Blazblue on the other hand that game is shit. And its update will have like two new characters and balance changes ssf4 will have a lot more.
Based on? That assumption makes no sense.
Guile is also pretty awful in 4. No offense if you main him, but he is. I admit Honda is pretty bad, too. The focus attack system is so fucking stacked against charge characters that it's ridiculous. Which leads me to this: Shin Oni is right, SF4 is awful compared to other SF games.
But no Rolento!!!
I can't wait for this shit. I wish I had constant high speed internet so I could play with all of you wacky SF4 players on Dtoid.
Makoto and Ibuki are going to rock some shit... hard.
@ chuchoyei
"Is it the best first version of a street fighter capcom has ever released? yes."
I like SF4, but still, I can't say I've met alot of seasoned SF players who think SF4 is the "best" SF. Pretty much everyone I've talked to at the Chinatown Fair who plays SF4 feels that 3rd Strike (some say Alpha3 or SSF2T) is the superior game. I personally like HD Remix the best. And it's debatable that SF4 is the "most balanced" SF too. Alot of people don't like the crouched throw teching, the sometimes awkwardly restrained feeling high-level matches have, the simplified special commands which are sorta lame, and (nothing new here i know) the cartooney 3D art style (char's eyes popping out before being ultra'd and shit like blanka's goofy 2nd costume) really ruins the feel that I'm playing a SF game, think about how gritty the original SF2 was by comparison.
Sorry for the rant, and that being said, I do generally like SF4 though, and capcom is pretty cool for releasing SSF4 to begin with.
As a FUN endeavor, SFIV is leaps and bounds more fun than Third Strike. I just couldn't get into that game.
Can someone tell me why juri's ultra meter is purple? is it just a cosmetic thing or does it mean something?
"YOU motherfuckers know damn well I was tryin' to listen to Boy George and The Culture Club singin' KarmaKarmaKarma Chameleon."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xda_x2md6XI
If Guy/Adon made it in over those then I may have to RAGE on the internet. Kinda already pissed that T.Hawk and Deejay made it in over anyone else.
@ chuchoyei
"I like SF4, but still, I can't say I've met alot of seasoned SF players who think SF4 is the "best" SF. Pretty much everyone I've talked to at the Chinatown Fair who plays SF4 feels that 3rd Strike (some say Alpha3 or SSF2T) is the superior game."
What version of street fighter 3 is third strike? third. What version of street fighter alpha is alpha 3? third. What version of street fighter 2 is st? fifth. What version of street fighter 4 is street fighter 4? first.
I'm not saying sf4 is the best street fighter it is not. But for being a first version it is pretty good. It has problems but as a first version it is the most balanced this is comparing it to alpha 1 which was almost like a beta version for 2, world warrior which didnt even have reversals, and street fighter 3 that doesnt even feel like third strike.
I figured it was cause she's SIN. Which makes me believe that Seth would get a purple ultra meter in this one too...or something.
I personally welcome Dee Jay. T.Hawk I don't care for but sure why not.
I do agree that some of the alpha choices could've been better. (I like Adon and all but there are many other popular and interesting characters to revive.). I figure Guy/Cody need to be in the Final Fight Category and gives capcom a excuse to add Hugo as Andore just so he won't be labeled as a 3s character entry.
and then that leaves the alpha category open for Karin/R.Mika/Birdie/Dolls. Rolento goes under final Fight. But that's me just thinkin.
Wrong on the alpha part. They were all seperate games, even though there were revisions of some.
That being said, Alpha 2 is the greatest SF game.
Yeah, true, as the first iteration of a SF game it's probably the most complete, even if we consider only the arcade release (and not the console version), it's still the same deal. Somehow missed the "first" in your sentence. Other than new characters, didn't some stuff, like the hitboxes of tiger shots, end up getting altered in the console version?
Shin Oni has great points, but I SF4 very enjoyable and looking at it on the great scheme of things, SF4 is one of the most balanced SF games in SF history. To each his own on SF4 and where that is taking the franchise.
Yes 3rd Strike is great, but parries(just like Focus Attacks) screw over charge characters like Remy. Also, 3rd strike is horribly unbalanced.
Also manasteel you're pretty misinformed.
Capcom is projecting to sell only 1 million copies of SSF4. That less than half of what SF4 sold. This could very be the last iteration of Street Fighter for a long ass time.
Also, T.Hawk is the new Zangief in SSF4.
I'm actually pretty happy with what has been announced but no Birdie is very disappointing :-( Honestly, he is so awesome!
I kind of liked the old machinegun uppercut motion but I guess I can deal.
Deejay may too strong. Why should he be able to combo into ultra so easily? Maybe it's a really tight link? He's bad-ass either way. And so is T. Hawk.
Are you kidding me? 3rd Strike is leaps and bounds more fun than any other fighting game capcom has ever released, IMO. It is what got me into fighting games. The characters, the fighting system, the look, everything is so fun and goes and such a perfect pace. Plus its way easier to play than any other SF game for so many reasons(mainly because no charge supers).
@Booerns
The graphics were touched up a bit for consoles, i.e. the character portraits got more work on them too.
@protomark
It is because her second ultra is selected(notice it has "II" and the green ones have a "I").
i never liked 3rd strike much. too steep of a learning curve for me to ever want to get serious about, plus it's horribly unbalanced. not fun.
Which is why I preferred the "Just Defense" system from Mark Of The Wolves.
I think it is lots of fun except for Gill. I really don't mind that it is unbalanced(not that is a good thing, playing Remy, Sean, or Q against Chun is a bummer), the way the game feels as a whole is just so much better than any other SF.
It is a combination of the mechanics, characters, look, sound, etc. that make it more fun to play than the other games in the series. Would I like it to be rebalanced like HDR? Would I like them to change the ugly HUD/interface? Of COURSE! But that isn't going to happen any time soon, so I just gotta run with it as is. mode.
Like MvC2's balance is probably even more out of wack and I have tons of fun with it. I don't really have a reason to get serious about a fighting game so the balanced of it never killed it for me. Plus, I got into far before I knew anything about balance, hit boxes or anything of that nature really. I knew how to do characters moves and a few other basic things and that's all I needed. I played SSFT2 before hand, but never thought it was all that, SF3 was the first fighting game that made me think, "wow this shit is awesome I wanna learn more about these games" of course I played Tekken 2 and 3 on the PSX when, but I never thought of it as a fighting game, my young mind just thought it was some badass action game.
Also, the announcer in the video you posted is amazing!
In a perfect world, my perfect fighting game would be MOTWII. It would have the rumored Joe Higashi student, some gameplay additions(maybe that "clash" thing from KoF12), be in HD, and for some reason have some SFIII characters in it like Dudley, Ibuki, Necro, Makoto, Q, Remy, Alex, and Yun. Well I guess you can put in a redesigned Ash Crimson instead of having Remy.
Also it would have all the cool online shit from these recent fighters like BB and SSFIV.