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I have a video game collection; my favs are listed below.
I got into gaming when I was 5yo when I got a Nintendo for my bday
Currently playing FFXIII

I am 25yo male

:) Square, Enix, Square-Enix, Atlus, and Capcom are my LIFE.

I'll let my collection do the talking,

I actually own all of these games
I wish I had a hell of a lot more

PS1

Valkyrie Profile
Final Fantasy Anthology (5 + 6)
Final Fantasy Chronicles (4 + Chrono Trigger)
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Chrono Cross
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny II
Thousand Arms
Xenogears
The Legend of Dragoon
Resident Evil 1
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve 2
Mega Man Legends
Mega Man Legends II
Vagrant Story
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Star Ocean Second Story
Legend of Legaia
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Brave Fencer Musashi
Grandia
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Wild Arms
Wild Arms II

PS2

Ar Tonelico
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud II
Dawn of Mana
Disgaea
Disgaea II
Breath of Fire V (Dragon Quarter)
Dragon Quest VIII
Dual Hearts
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Grandia X-Treme
Grandia II
Grandia III
Ico
Growlanser (Heritage of War)
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
La Pucelle Tactics
Legaia Dual Saga (Legend of Legaia II)
Magna Carta
Mana Khemia
Odin Sphere
Radiata Stories
Resident Evil Code Veronia X
Resident Evil 4
Samurai Legend Musashi
Shadow of the Colussus
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga II
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner II
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona III
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona III: Fes
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Star Ocean III
Suikeden III
Tales of Legendia
Tales of Abyss
Valkyrie Profile II
Wild Arms Alter Code F
Wild Arms III
Wild Arms IV
Wild Armss V
Xenosaga I
Xenosaga II
Xenosaga III

PSP

Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core
Star Ocean First Departure
Star Ocean Second Evolution
Riviera
Final Fantasy Tactics
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
Wild Arms XF
Yggdra Union
Persona

Game Cube

Tales of Symphonia
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Resident Evil Zero
Zelda Collectors Edition (Zelda 1 and 2 from Nintendo) (Ocarana of Time and Majoras Mask from N64)
Zelda Wind Waker
Baten Kaitos Origins

Wii

Mario Kart
Chocobos Dungeon
Super Mario Galaxy
Twilight Princess
Smash Bros Brawl
Resident Evil, Umbrella Chronicles

PS3

Valkyria Chronicles
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Age: Awakening
Resonance of Fate
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
Fallout 3 (GOTYE)
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Oblivion (GOTYE)
Heavy Rain
Nier
3D Dot Heroes
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition
Super Street Fighter IV
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Tekken 6
Dead to Rights: Retribution
Dead Rising 2
Soul Calibur IV
Demons Souls
Bayonetta
Final Fantasy XIII
Bioshock
Bioshock 2
Dantes Inferno: Divine Edition
inFamous

Stuff I don't Have...That I neeeeddd!!!!
(too expensive to track down, or not yet out)

Persona II (psp holidays 2011)
Magna Carta Crimson Stigma (360)
Lost Odyssey (360)
Fable (Xbox)
Fable II (360)
Mana Khemia II (PS2)
Disgaea III (PS3)
The 3rd Birthday (PSP)
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor (DS)
Arc the Lad Collection (PS1)(PSN)
Alundra (1+2) (ps1)(PSN)
Baten Kaitos (gamecube)
Eternal Sonata (ps3)
The World Ends with you (ds)
Lunar Eternal Blue Complete (ps1)
Eternal Poison (ps2)
Baroque (Wii)
Tales of Symphonia II (wii)
Ar Tonelico II (ps2)
Final Fantasy Vs XIII (Ps3)
Final Fantasy Agito XIII (PSP)

Games that Don't exist, that I would LOVE to see

New Lufia III
New Breath of Fire VI
Remakes of Dragon Quest series for PSP
Remakes of Tales of Destiny for PSP
Remakes of Arc the Lad for PSP
Remake of Nocturne for PSP
Remake of FFVII with better graphics ONLY, nothing else updated (I can dream)
New Legend of Dragoon
New Legend of Legaia
Xenogears II, (fuck xenosaga, they screwed that shit up good, you wouldn't know if you didnt play xenogears you dumb bitch) or Update with better graphics
Im sure I can think of more later.....

Also, you name it, I have it when it comes to ROMS / Emulation
for all good RPGS on (atari, gameboy, snes, nes, sega, etc)
Wish I had originals, but to track them down would be ridiculous.
I have a few ps1 games in roms too, that I don't have in real life

You need to play Shining games, and Lufia games IMMEDIATELY or die :)
Radical Dreamers... omg amazing if you can find the translated game
Mystic Quest, Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, Mana Games, Earthbound Series,
Ogre Battle, Secret of Evermore, Soul Blazer, Tales of Phantasia, theres more
but I can't remember

If you haven't figured it out,
im a little more old school

I love my rpg's, a few fighting games, and my survival horror.
Umm hit me up if you wanna :)

-Dan
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Psychological Connections with Persona series
Persona | 2:31 AM on 04.01.2009 6 comments


Warning: If you read any of this, most of it contains spoilers, so if you want to play the game, and haven’t yet, then don’t read this.

The definition of Persona with regard to psychology is: The mask or façade presented to satisfy the demands of the situation or the environment and not representing the inner personality of the individual; the public personality

An interesting side note is that the actual personality is called the Anima.
The definition of this is the inner personality that is turned toward the unconscious of the individual.

With regard to Persona 3 and 4, obviously the Anima life of the characters would be the social links, and school events that take place outside of the TV in Persona 4, and the Dark Hour (the time in between 11:59, and Midnight) in Persona 3.

I find it very interesting all of the psychological principals that exist in this game.
Everyone but the main character of the game has one set persona that they can invoke in the “other” worlds in order to overcome the situations that have created these other worlds. In Persona 3 the basic premise is that the “other” world in which you can use your persona is always changing, and a huge dungeon takes the place of your school during the “Dark Hour” in Persona 4 the world inside the TV is actually the thoughts of the cumulative population, and only those with the power of Persona can enter the TV. In Persona 3 non-persona users are actually in coffins during this time. A process called in-game as Transmogrification. (The change of something ordinary into something fantastic or strange)

I find this interesting as well because access is restricted to non-persona users to the other world.
Now if you think about the idea of Multiple Personae, this is a gift bestowed upon ONLY the main character. Which you name at the beginning and all the dialogue that takes place is chosen by you the player. The multiple personae are “fused” in the Velvet Room, which only the Main Character can see, and enter.
As you level up, and gain experience you are able to hold more and more Personae in your head. These Personae can hold up to 8 abilities, and have different strengths and weaknesses. The Personae also are based mostly off of religious and demonic figures, with lower level personae representing vague demons, and higher level personae representing those with more history.

Now back to the psychological aspect. It is interesting to me that a non-talking character (which is obviously made so that you in effect ARE the main character, you can’t customize his appearance, but if you could, that would be the last straw at making him 100% in control of your customization) I think the reason the main character / you, are the only one that can change your said personae, and fuse new ones, is because only YOU, the player of the game / main character in the story has the ability to change your perception with regard to the situations at hand, which ties into the definitions I mentioned previously.

One interesting change from Persona 3 to Persona 4 is that, in Persona 3, the only person you could give commands to was the Main Character. This made boss fights more difficult and frustrating, because AI controlled your other 3 party members. Though the AI is pretty good about not using skills that are not in your favor, it is still cumbersome, because in order to figure out that an enemy is not affected by fire, your controlled characters will first use whatever their designated elemental skill is, and it may not be effective. They will stop using it if it is not effective, but most of the time after an analysis, you know which will, and will not work, and this doesn’t seem to carry over to other battles, as the AI only remembers so much.

The much needed ability to directly control the other characters in Persona 4 is much smoother. But I also think it takes away from the premise, that YOU are the main character and can only pull your own strings, and not the strings of your allies.

They do have an in-game explanation for this in Persona 4, and that is that you are directly telling them what to do in battle based off of their skills, but if an enemy overheard your main character telling you to blast some demon with a fire spell, obviously they might be ready for it and dodge. SO I feel this leaves something to be desired with regard to a proper explanation.

I hate to be so analytical of these two games, but it is part of my psychological analysis, and these games looked at separately or together in my opinion are some of the best RPG’s of all time that I have played. I do think they could have made Persona 4 a little bit fresher though, because unfortunately it’s basically the exact same thing, with a slightly different story.

My favorite thing to note is that the real world and the other world are mutually exclusive, except for the fact that you must have a persona to be aware of, or enter the other world. Persona can only be invoked in the “other-world” which is different from Persona 2, where there is no “other world” only the real world, and Persona can be invoked anywhere at any time, and people also use Persona for real life advantages, but not everyone possesses one.

The unifying messages of the Persona series is definitely of Friendship, and finding the Truth. With regard to the Friendship aspect, it is only with the power of those that you believe in, and believe in you, that you are able to kill the final bosses in both of these games. I am not yet sure about persona 2 because I haven’t completed it, and I am anxiously awaiting Persona 1 on PSP.

I also really like the difference in P4 and P3 with regard to getting your Persona. In both of the games the Main Character has it without undergoing any seemingly obvious change, as though it was fate, which ties in with the contract and the Velvet Room as well. There is no explanation for why the main in P3 has it, but in P4, the power was actually bestowed upon him by a celestial being posing as a human, experimenting on what could happen when said power is bestowed.

In P3, people are found with “the potential” they are discovered because they are conscious during the Dark Hour while the other persona users are active. In P4 (which I like the premise for this a lot more) because it ties in more with my psychology theme, people awaken to their persona during their experience on the other side, (which they are not supposed to be able to get there by conventional means, a persona user has to throw them in) they face the side of themselves they have been suppressing, and because they do this they gain power later, instead of having it bestowed. Which makes me kind of think the main character isn’t really deserving of the power, it was just given, instead of earned.

I also think that the whole “Social Links” in both games tie in very well too, because the Anima of real life and the relationships of the people to the Main Character become his power in the other world to fuse stronger and better personas with more versatile skills in order to overcome the Shadows in the other world.
I would also have to note that the presence of Shadows (which are your enemies in these games) is a psychological term as well. The psychological definition for this is: part of the unconscious mind consisting of repressed weaknesses, shortcomings, and instincts, which in the game that is exactly what they are. The cumulative weakness of all people is basically what the shadows are in P4. But in P3 it has a different explanation for why they are there, basically a science experiment gone awry. Facing the shadow of yourself in the other world in P4 bestows upon you a persona, and maxing out a social link with a playable character basically “promotes” that persona (it has the same battle skills, just more defenses) So finding yourself by facing your shadow invokes persona, and clearing up the rest of the doubt of yourself makes persona even stronger.

Another interesting thing to note, is that all of the Personae, are actually broken down into categories of Major Arcana tarot cards. Which are loosely based on psychological profiles which can be generally applied for tarot card readings, which here is an odd fact about myself, but I used to be a tarot card reader. Never made money off it or anything, but I had a deck, and practiced doing it. Also the people based off of these general psychological profiles for the social links all hit the nail on the head with regard to the major arcana tarot cards they represent.

For instance Chie from P4 was the Chariot Social Link. Chariot represents physical strength, and the majority of the time Chie and MC (Main Character) are training physically to stop bullies. Becoming a better friend with her, unlocks personas with physical attack skills as the prevalent ability.

I could go on and on, but I suggest you look up the individual meanings yourself, and see how they apply to each individual character that you are curious about.

I know I might be wrong about a few of the Plot elements as I have not played P3 in awhile, so if you have any other information just go ahead and give it to me.

I would like to end with this. Teddie is my favorite character, because he is the only playable character which is a shadow, who brainwashes himself into forgetting he is a shadow, which transforms him into something else completely, and when he faces the shadow of who he is by hiding, he actually turns into a real person, and gains a persona. He is of the Star Arcana, and not only is he adorable and charming, and his Social Link is automatic, but he is also the best representation of the entire blog I just laid out with regard to the 3 phases I mentioned (Anima, Shadow and Persona) As Teddie lives his life, in and outside of the "other world'

If you don’t already have it, definitely give them a try, or pick up ANYTHING in the Shin Megami series, steal persona 1 and 2 online if you have to (not as good in my opinion so far of what I have played of P2.) but if you like those, P3 and 4 are better.

-Dan



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Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 06:57
Bulkmailer
WALL OF TEXT! GET TO THE CHOPPA!

I like Teddy too.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 09:50
Josh Tolentino
Wait, wait.. which main character did you think was undeserving, the one from P3 or P4? Because technically speaking all of the characters in P3 had their power bestowed.

In any case, the main characters of P3 and P4 are regarded as somewhat transcendent, not only in mechanical terms (i.e. the wild card ability), but in plot related ones. On all fronts, every social link in both games would have gone to nothing without the main character's involvement, his capacity for which is seemingly inhuman, which I expanded upon thinking about the colorless mask item.

Personally though, I think the search for identity is the main theme of the Persona games. Friendship is certainly a great part of that, but due to his or her unique situation the main character is almost always apart. Never alone, but still always "different". The tarot connections are also very important to the whole idea of identity, very much so in P3 (as here and here, though it's both more and less subtle in P4.

I apologize for this blatant self-promotion, but I thought it appropriate given the similar focuses of articles we've written in unabashed fan frenzy over the series.
's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 14:44
Clint
Bookmarked for when I beat 4 :)
Persona's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 22:13
Persona
thanks for an in depth comment unangbangkay I really appreciate it. I figured that this blog would definitely not be for everyone when I wrote it. I agree with all the points that you had mentioned. I sometimes have a hard time expressing myself, but I was trying to say what you were saying also, I definitley took my sweet time Bulk Mailer haha.
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