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(# 0) on 10/20/2008 11:37
(# 1) on 10/20/2008 11:37
(# 2) on 10/20/2008 11:45
(# 3) on 10/20/2008 11:48
You see, in movies (or art) the point is to make you feel, think, laugh, whatever. In games, it's to play. So, if you feel emotional after playing something or you realize something you've never thought of before, thats a by product, a marketing technique to get you to play the game.
So, games are only art if they get you to play them.
Quick response.
PS Games are art when they are able to take the panties off because of the game and not money.
(# 4) on 10/20/2008 11:51
That's pretty much the whole premise of Don Quixote - a guy reads too many romance novels, goes crazy, and goes on wacky adventures thinking he's a knight in shining armor. Cervantes was poking fun at the people who thought that reading books would actually drive people to do this.
So when the current generation, which has played video games their entire life, grows up and starts to take positions as writers, critics, and other productive areas of society, games will become accepted as a valid medium for "art."
Of course, not all games can be considered "art," in any medium you're going to get a lot of crap for every treasure (See: Sturgeon's Law). And as long as there are bad games and stupid game developers, Destructoid will be there to make fun of them. :D
(# 5) on 10/20/2008 11:54
A videogame blogger will get a pulitzer when they stop acting so bloody childish.
(# 6) on 10/20/2008 12:04
(# 7) on 10/20/2008 12:42
We're serious ... as balls.
(# 8) on 10/20/2008 12:42
What you say makes a lot more sense, but in that case the statement is horribly phrased. When in history did an article that is "lackluster and filled with nothing but the facts, which you can find anywhere" win a Pulitzer? I took "win a Pulitzer" as "write something relevant".
(# 9) on 10/20/2008 12:57
People on the internet have varying opinions. Some want srs articles about srs games, some want to talk about weiners. Some people want brightly coloured, fun, innovative games, some want gritty multiplayer shooters. I wish I could project this into the minds of all the people who are confused by contradiction on the Internet.
It is not a hive mind. Different people say different things.
(# 10) on 10/20/2008 13:04
(# 11) on 10/20/2008 13:04
That's good to know!
Okay, seems I really just misunderstood the statement. But it is badly phrased.
@Uglyphil:
Yes, I'm aware of that. The overgeneralization in my post was more of a polemic response to the overgeneralization present in the cited statements.
(# 12) on 10/20/2008 13:18
(# 13) on 10/20/2008 13:21
We play games for various reasons, which is why we need games that aim to be mindless fun, as well as games that attempt to tell a brilliant story. I also feel that you either get games, or you don't. And Roger Ebert doesn't get games. End of story.
(# 14) on 10/20/2008 13:27
Nobody claims that those things aren't art, even though they have both high ends and low ends. Games have high ends and low ends too. They're just as much an art when done right as anything else. There have been children's finger paintings that have been regarded as more artful than games, and that's not quite right.
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(# 22) on 10/20/2008 19:43
I don't know if it was real or not, but I'm writing anyway, lol.
(# 23) on 10/20/2008 23:13
Case closed.