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Hi I guess that's the best way to start. I am Patrick, a Maths student at the University of Manchester (UK). I am a gamer... no s**t, I have played games for over 15 years starting with Sega Megadrive, Super Nintendo and an Amiga A500. My console repertoire would be: Sega Megadrive 2, SNES, Gameboy, N64, PSOne, Gameboy Color (urgh I hate that spelling), GBA, Gamecube, Xbox, DS, Xbox 360 and most recently the Wii.

I enjoy pretty much any genre of game: from Shooter to JRPG to Platformer. The only genre which I don't get on particularly well with would be sports games.

My favourite games of all time would include: Full Throttle, Half-life 2, Splinter cell 3 and Skies of Arcadia among others.

Other than games I am pretty heavily into Music, particularly Rock and metal; with my favoutite bands including:InMe, Anthrax, Reuben, Fei Comodo, New Found Glory and Lamb of God. I am also a fan of all Joss Whedon's projects, particularly Firefly.
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Hatred towards particular Games.
Patters | 10:16 AM on 10.11.2009 18 comments


So recently I have wondered why people hate certain games, by hate I do not mean quietly so, I mean when they vocalise it via either spoken or written word, which usually would imply that they are passionate about it (to an extent). I would like to know why people feel this way.

Often one common reason a negative opinion is given is with console or PC exclusives, which leads to disdain towards said exclusives. For example: the Halo series and the all too common rants against it from both PC and Playstation Fanatics. One cannot argue that the Halo games are bad, Bungie make fantastic shooters and have done so for over a decade. So with this case it seems that it is jealously for those who can play this game, when they themselves cannot.

Another example would be towards popular games in franchises such as Call of Duty. Can see how some people wouldn't like it, due to some elements of gameplay (myself included), which often for some leads to vocalised hatred. While the core game itself is solid there are a few imperfections which leads me to believe leads to the hatred in these cases. While some people can look past these faults and enjoy the game, often to huge extents, these people seem jealous of those that can overlook these problems.

My Final example is when one has followed the game throughout its promotion and development. But the game does not hold up to their opinions prior to the release. Such as it is this would be annoyance or anger towards the developer for not catering to the mentioned player. This is often seems to be the fault of the promotion being slightly off, say such as pitching an arcade-simulation hybrid racer as a racing simulation, such as with Need for Speed: Shift.

So to compare it to another medium: art (yeah it's a little clichéd now, sorry). So with a great piece of art, one of it's main purposes is to get across a message, this message will be likely to illicit a reaction which, dependant on the observer the opinion could range from considering it anywhere between brilliance or believing it to be a complete piece of shit. I am not saying that people should stop vocalising their hatred, but I believe that trying to convince people that they are wrong about their opinion of a game is not a great way to put across your opinion.

People are all different and will always appreciate different things in different ways. I personally cannot enjoy Left for Dead, I can see exactly why people play it, the game just doesn't click for me despite several attempts to play it. For me a excellent game will never have universal praise, one with universal praise would undoubtedly be a good game, but with no split views on it I would never consider it great.



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CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 10:25
CelicaCrazed
I don't understand people's hatred of sports games.
Cartman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 10:33
Cartman
You'll always get idiots who will automatically hate something cos' its too "Mainstream" or too popular. The whole "If your not indie then GTFO" phase really pissed me off.
Cartman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 10:35
Cartman
Oh and also,

Cool story, bro
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 10:36
Chris Carter
@Celica
A lot of gamers hate meat heads, and think those are the only people who can possibly like sports games, and in turn, if they play that genre, they'll be no better than the people they despise. Also, a lot of these games require a grasp of the sport, which a lot of gamers don't have (Madden ESPECIALLY. If you are a football junkie, you'll have an edge).

All I have to say to that is: TRY SPORTS GAMES! Playing Madden with friends is one of the greatest experiences ever. And I'm not talking about 4 player games, I'm talking franchise mode.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 11:10
Chris Carter
@Cartman
"The whole 'If your not indie then GTFO' phrase really pissed me off."

Seconded. I'm a huge music and film buff, and that phrase is more pertinent with those two mediums; and the people are much worse.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 11:33
Tubatic
@Magnalon

Everything that i really understand about Football, I learned from playing Madden for years. I enjoyed the sport well enough before I got into the modern, 2001 and onward Maddens, but I didn't really understand the strategy and complexities of the sport until I started playing the game.

The funny thing is, I don't watch much footbal OR play Madden lately (over the past two years or so), but I can still really enjoy watching a game from time to time, because of that weird, intense "embedded" experience of playing lots of Madden franchise mode.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 11:45
Chris Carter
@Tubatic
Same! When I was like 8 or so, I played Madden on the SNES. Did I understand most of the terminology? No way; but I continued on, and picked it up.

I guess with intellect and tenacity you can learn anything! What I was trying to convey was that the initial barriers of entry for a full length sports game would be much higher than say, Wii Sports (simple sports concepts anyone can grasp), an FPS (just press this button to shoot people) or Mario Party (push one button a lot).
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 12:34
ChronosWing
Sports games are not my forte, but I do enjoy playing them on the rare occasion that it happens. Oh and in the defense of NFS:Shift, the way that game was marketed was not gonna change the fact it was buggy pile of shit, and a terrible game.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 13:01
Velt
I dont "hate" some games I just dont like, as a PC gamer, to feel excluded from the gaming world because all those real good console exclusives.
With the 360 you have some games coming to the PC, some times they are good ports, some times very bad ones. With ps3 so called exclusive games you have no options.

The only game I would like to play on the PC that is on the 360 is Forza 2.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 13:26
Elsa
I think if people paid $60.00 for a game, played it... and still hated it, that they're entitled to say so. They should certainly recognize that it's personal opinion and not everyone will agree with them... but I hated Army of 2. It was supposed to be a game built from the ground up and I pre-ordered it, bought it, played it for about an hour with my husband... and hated it.

There's nothing wrong with hating a game, especially if you can be specific as to why you hated the game (and it's almost an entire other blog to say why I hated Ao2). The COD example is actually a good one because lots of people really liked COD4 and felt very disappointed with COD5. Again, I see no problem with saying so. It hopefully makes COD6 a better game by avoiding commonly hated things about COD5.

Loving some games, hating others... it's all part of being a gamer. Hating a game you've never played though... that's just being an uninformed asshole.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 13:28
Elsa
ooops... hate that we can't edit comments... "build from the ground up" should read "built from the ground up for co-op"
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 14:11
pedrovay2003
I don't like the pointless hate, either, but when it's merited and backed up legitimately, I can see it in a better light.

Also, I don't think people hate the Halo series per say, I think they just hate that everyone acts like it revolutionized the FPS genre. That's why I'm sick of it. Didn't stop me from playing Halo 3 through on Legendary, though. I just don't think it's the greatest thing ever created like it's often made out to be.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 14:39
Chris Carter
@Pedro
Agreed. As someone who grew up in High School/College when Halo/Madden were at their peaks, I will say a lot of the hate comes from wanting to "go against the grain".

Madden and Halo are very much "frat-house games" (Guitar Hero is another one). Gamers in an attempt to elevate themselves above "the mindless people who only subscribe to popular norms", will hate these games for little to no reason. Most haven't even played them.

I actually had to defend my love for Halo and Madden once amongst a group of gamers who hated the franchises, and who branded me a "frat boy gamer". I ended up having to justify it to them by explaining various feats I've done, such as the fact that I beat God of War on God Mode, that I'm a hardcore RPG grinder, and that I enjoy all types of games, not just niche titles. Lots of grumbling followed.
Mike Moran's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 16:04
Mike Moran
@Magnalon: If I were you I'd just say "Fuck you for being a bunch of close minded dickheads. Anyone that pushes around negative labels probably adheres to about 15 themselves."
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 17:01
Chris Carter
@Wry
Haha, I wanted to own them, rather them just resort to insults. They were basically speechless after that.
hawtpokkitz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 23:06
hawtpokkitz
Personally, I tend to hate games just because I can. Kingdom Hearts because I hate Disney. Final Fantasy (excluding Tactics) because I think the games have just been repetitions for years now. Guitar Hero because it's annoying how many people think they're badass just because they are good at it. Actually, that's my biggest problem with gamers. The ones who think they are cool just because they are good at a certain game.
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/12/2009 11:30
Narishma
As far as I'm concerned, the reason I don't particularly like Halo isn't because I can't play it (it's available on PC) but because compared to other PC FPS it was an average game at best. I don't actually hate the game itself, there's nothing wrong with it except maybe the repetitive corridor levels in the first one, but it's not the revolution that the Halo fanboys make it out to be.
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