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360-Gamer posted an article yesterday (link) outlining the troubles of Forza 2 with racism, and Microsoft doing little to help the situation, though I don't agree completely with the statements in the article, it did strike a chord in me enough to rant a little. To address the first issue of the racism in Forza 2, or lets take it further, just racism on Xbox Live in general. I mean, this has started well before Forza, if I am playing Halo 2 on any given day and don't get called a Mexican by at least one user, I now feel a little neglected. I do not know the average age of a Live user, but I guess it has to be under 14. Really though, that I don't take in to account as much as I do the life the people that spout out these comments. I think about how when I was younger, hanging out with my friends, just as "boys will be boys," we would end up at some point saying the most vulgar comments we could think of at each other, trying to get on our last nerves (I can admit to being so childish even now, that I still call my cousin who is about my age as many gay terms as I can, as he comes back at me with as many fat jokes as he can muster). Now this would be carried out onto the school yard during athletic games, maybe not as far as calling a person a "N*gg*r" or a "J*w" (as I hear on Live all the time), but certainly everything else, such as sexuality to peoples "mommas" would come into play, and really, this was fair game. Quickly, a little more on prejudice in general, coming from a guy who is Japanese, Ecuadorian, Italian, Cherokee, Irish, and Spanish, I take true racism very seriously. To the point that I see it in places sometimes others do not, such as one of my favorite examples, "Black Entertainment Television." Being a fan of rap music when I was younger, I watched a good amount of the channel, but now when I think about it, it has a pretty negative message. It is promoting prejudice in itself by the name of the channel, it promotes that if you are black, what they show is what you should consider entertainment. We all know being anti-race is wrong, no arguments from anyone here, but how is it that pro-race isn't as well? When the channel ensures that they have no other on air talent, other than african american persons, are they not only discriminating against one race, but all other races? Now, its not as though I am picketing the BET offices, but the point about that is, if the same people who are blindly allowing such a channel to exist, which is a full on serious business and enterprise, how is they would be in shambles over little kids and their fake racism meant to just insult people, rather than a business with a full on prejudice agenda? Where are peoples priorities on racism? Attacking the kids rather than trying to get at the problem from the source, the media, its a very overall mixed message. I am not sure what the answer is to the current buzz this racism on Forza is causing or just racism in general, but I do know taking it as seriously as some people do is definitely not the way to go. There is serious racism, and then there is the kind that is just childish to get on your nerves, maybe there are some real feelings behind what the users say and do online, but I am willing to bet that it is just kids trying to get a rise out of people. Microsoft does set up means to stop this all, its not as though they just want people to accept this and let it slide, there is the feedback feature for all 360 users to leave feedback for other users, positive or negative, and put why you are leaving that feedback (which I always found not enough people use), as well as I see they also provide for Forza 2 users an Abuse Form (link). So while people go on their rants and whines online, are they all taking the time out to make changes themselves? Are they even targeting the right people? As no matter what, Microsoft is the last group to blame.
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so you make sushi while stealing radios for the mob, all the while drinking whiskey at a casino on the res next to your flan & chorizo stall?
am I leaving anything out?
jk mang. some of the shit I've heard on live is just ridiculous, and you can pretty much laugh it off. I think the only solution is for us to police ourselves.
which is not a great solution considering most people are retards.
Just look at Jack Thompson. He's been bitching about damn near everything on TV for the past 20 years, starting with Cop Killa.
But, seriously one of these days those people are going to have to grow up. And, then they'll realize how big of an asshole they were.
As much as it sucks that these people still plague our world, we can't really do anything about it. The system is too large to censor, and the only real way you can is by having a "Friend Code" system like on the Wii, which doesn't provide very much communication really. People should just use the tools available and submit their feedback to Xbox.
Idiots will always be there, it's not MS fault. On my long halo 2 nights i was called everything from mexican (which i am) to british, from terrorist to fucking jap, i usually just laughed at them.
The bad thing about that behavior is that it's sometimes contagious, i haven't gotten it yet (don't play too much online now) but some of my friends had enough of just taking the insults and started giving them, so now they'll mention the twin towers, 9/11, and things like that pretty much at any english speaking player, that or they just play with ppl that speak in spanish.
And the feedback, I think most people just use it when they are going to leave a negative one, and that doesn't work very well when you consider all the people that believe they are SO good that you can only beat them by h4XX0r1n9.
i see what you mean about BET. it's just like starting a black/spanish/asian club at school. no white club. why? well, it's racist.
racism will never truly go away. it's sad, but it's a fact of life. all you can do is ignore those that say racist things, and just cope with it really. i'm not sure if it will ever really disappear.