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GTAIV - The ONLY Version is the Xbox 360 Version
PacoDG | 8:43 AM on 04.09.2008 47 comments



I have read across many forums (where else can you find people spouting their opinions on every subject and non-subject in the world). Finding people actually considering what system they should be getting Grand Theft Auto IV. I couldn’t help but easily list the reasons why there shouldn’t even be a question of what system you should get this on. First I will start out with something small..

Custom Soundtracks - The talk radio in GTA is classic, the songs they tend to put in the game are usually great, but you will be playing GTAIV for quite a while. At some point you’ll want some new music, maybe your own music, thus the 360 comes in with the custom soundtracks (PS3 possibly one day?).


Achievements - This should never be a deciding factor, but more of just icing on the cake as far as a game purchase. When you think of a game like Crackdown, the achievements in a sandbox type game really do add a lot. Also the great names (”Warm Coffee”..classic)


Controller - Yes, the Grand Theft Auto series, started on the PC, made it big with the Playstation 2, and then was perfected on the Xbox. The tight controller made to fit comfortably in a person’s hand was what the game needed to be complete.
No more having to use the ‘too light’ toy like PS3 controller in the game. No need to spend $50 to get a controller that should of had rumble in the first place. The Xbox 360 controller gives you everything you need (except a good d-pad, but that won’t factor in for GTAIV).

More than just technical aspects, the Playstation 3 is the reason why we all have had to sit through delays until now to finally get a hold of the game.

It’s really no surprise to anybody that the PS3 was definitely a contributing factor to that” - Rockstar Games Vice President of Product Development Jeronimo Barrera

How can you morally support a company such as Sony for doing this to us! Seriously though, the fact that delays were made because of the PS3 version shows that the game was basically made for the 360 in mind and the PS3 version is almost just a port.

On the positive side, as the development teams had to take more time to get the PS3 version up to speed with the 360’s, there is no doubt the devs on the 360 were able to use this extra time to test and tweak the game to get the most out of it.

A possible situation on the extra time for the the Xbox 360 is by benefiting from better graphics. Look at a lot of the multiconsole releases, Devil May Cry 4, Call of Duty 4, even Lost Planet, a port they had all the time in the world to work on, all these games in the end are just plain better looking. I can admit I am nitpicking here, but if I had a choice, I would go with what looks as good as the game can of course.

Xbox Live - There is just no comparison with this versus the Playstation Network. PSN is getting better, that is all well and good, but it is still no Xbox Live. Looking past all the great features Live offers over PSN, the main focus should be your friends, and we all know your friends are on Live. With the 15 multiplayer modes, you know you will want to be doing some co-op with your friends, and of course they will be playing online on the 360 (Note: Also know they have a headset because it was included with their system, I’m sure Sony will fix this some day).

Exclusive Downloadable Content - Microsoft paid money to get the goods. If you are a true GTAIV fan, this part should have already made up your mind for you. Feel free to be in denial about this being a factor on what version of the game you should get, just remember what was said about this DLC, “It will be bigger than a lot of people think. GTA Vice City and San Andreas were basically expansions of GTA3. Think of the DLC that way. We are talking major expansion for GTAIV” - Consider those words, and think of how big Shivering Isles was for Oblivion. This should not be overlooked if you have both systems and honestly can’t decide.

For at least another year, I would count on multiconsole releases to be superior on the Xbox 360. Developers say it, it shows in gaming sites reviews, in fact, the only group of “gamers” that would tell you otherwise is GamePro, and I think we all know how credible of a source they are. While Playstation 3 owners are making a sandwhich because their version of games require a forced install time, Xbox 360 players will already be experts in cop killing.


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The above post got front paged on N4G then taken off in record time. I am proud that it lasted that long, even I recognized how much of a fanboy I sounded like (despite I am a Nintendo fanboy). Either way though, the 360 version owns the PS3 version, I just don't understand how people try to argue it any other way.



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-D-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:06
-D-
To be fair, Rockstar did say they encountered issues in developing both versions.

I'm rolling PS3 -- any other way feels like cheating.
Zatsuga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:08
Zatsuga
I'm getting it on the 360. Course, I don't yet own a triple, that'll have to wait until MGS4 comes out. Can't wait for something new to play, The Orange Box was just starting to get old.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:13
BlindsideDork
Oh yeah and about the DLC...timed exclusive anyone?

I could careless about GTA games since I don't like them but this post smells a bit fishy, or is that lighter fluidy?
superhobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:17
superhobo
I completely agree, but really (in my best shang tsung voice):

LET THE FLAME WARS..... BEGIN!!
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:27
B-Radicate
I wholeheartedly agree with every point you make. Despite the fact I only own a 360, it just seems as though there's too much time and effort to invest in fully enjoying the PS3 version (like money for the game, money for a new rumble controller, time spent waiting for the DLC to be come available, etc.).

I think people will be surprised at how similar they are to play and I feel they'll be that much more impressed with Microsoft's decision to help make it the lead platform.
kepler's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:32
kepler
Admittedly I own both consoles, but I will be buying it for the 360. I can't put my finger on exatly why, but it feels like the right thing to do, and I feel I'll be getting better quality for my money. It might be something to do with the fact I seem to play my 360 alot more than the PS3 anyway, but meh. 360 it is for me (in a non-fanboy kinda way).
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:34
MaximusPaynicus
I can't say this on BG, but I'll say it here: N4G pulled some bullshit in taking this off their website when other, worse content continues to stand. Fuck that noise.
Teta's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:37
Teta
It´s better until you get the:
RROD
bwawhhahahhwhahwhahshhahwhahhahhwahhahahahha!!!!!!!!



...ok, i know it wasn´t funny.
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:39
big filth
true. true indeed.

cant wait for this game!
brobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:39
brobots
I had a preorder for the 360 version, but I decided recently to switch it to PS3.

1) I'm not sure how cheat codes will factor in to the Achievements system. I always used GTA cheats when I wanted to go on rampages around the city and didn't feel like having to buy all my weapons, etc. I assume Achievements will be disabled with cheats, but I don't want a fiasco like Saint's Row, where all achievements become permanently disabled after a single cheat code is entered and you save the game.

2) I don't really want Achievements in my GTA games at all. I had millions of hours of enjoyment playing GTA however I wanted. I will admit I like achievements a bit too much at time, but I don't want my GTA experience to be altered by anything outside of GTA

3) THE 360 HARDWARE IS A POS. I'm on box five, with it already showing signs that it too might be out the door. Going the month without the 360 is hard enough, let alone if I'm dependent on it for my GTA fix as well. I will be playing GTA so often that it would probably RRoD my box within the first two weeks. The beauty of GTA is playing it whenever, for however long. This way, when my 360 dies again, it won't be that big of a deal, since I can still play GTAIV on my PS3.
brobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:41
brobots
And also GTA will always feel best on a Playstation controller. It felt terrible on the original XBOX controller. The 360 controller is the best controller ever made, but it just wouldn't feel the same.
PacoDG's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:46
PacoDG
MaximusPaynicus: You are god damn right. It is weird how though N4G took it off the site, it is still getting comments (http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-132767.aspx)

brobots: Nice points without sounding like a fanboy at all (it is hard to do). I of course didn't write a counterpoint to the pros of owning a PS3 version (wouldn't make the piece as entertaining to me), but hardware that works is a big plus. The controller.. meh.. I still stick with the 360 personally, even for GTA games, but having that as a point is completely personal preference. I had no clue about that Saints Row thing locking out achievements if you use a cheat, that is BS.
Morrius's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:48
Morrius
Imagine if it redrings the morning you get the game though... :)

I had a 360, but think I'll probably pick up a PS3 largely for this at some point. Ok, so no acheivements, but going forward the 360 has peaked while the ps3 will start to hit its stride in the next 18 months.

I'm sure it'll be a good game on either format, just be glad we all get to play. Well, except the gamecube turbo owners.
Scientist tz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:52
Scientist tz
I'm not totally decided yet.

I'm worried about my 360 crapping out in the middle of GTAIV. My first 360 lasted from April to October 07. My friend bought one 3 months after me and his just died this week. My Current 360 arrived in November and I won't be surprised if I see the red lights again sometime this summer. I want my 360 to last until Microsoft can send me one that will keep working.

So I'm leaning toward the ps3.
glipe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:53
glipe
Here is what you want.

"Wow! That is the biggest load of fanboy tripe I've read in a while! Congratulations! No, seriously, I've read an awful lot of bad, hideously biased commentary about all formats but this one is particularly useless!

I'm just going to build a wall out of your fail. Let me lay some bricks:

1) Custom soundtracks are a way of allowing users to set up specific playlists that load with the game. PS3 (and PC) user will still be able to play their own music over the system, as far as I know. After all, GTA has been able to do that since the first one.
2) "there is no doubt the devs on the 360 were able to use this extra time to test and tweak the game to get the most out of it." - yeah, 'cause that's what happens when a title gets delayed. The team don't pick up slack with the other system. Nah, they just carry on as they were.
3) Better graphics on the 360? Have you actually seen comparison shots of anything that's come out on both formats? They're virtually the same! And when I say "virtually the same" I don't mean one format is slightly better than the other. Each has their own brand of failings and joy: 360 does bright colours well, PS3 gives more texture detail, PS3 is crisper, 360 does more with motion blur. Blah blah, if you knew anything about the formats you wouldn't even have gone down this route. And using a link to a pre-release story on Lost Planet PS3? For shame.
4) Controller? Now you're just being silly! Why not just start talking about headsets so I can really start....oh, hold on...
5) Headsets. So, MS are better for making you buy one of their headsets and Sony are worse for allowing you to just use a Bluetooth headset of your choice? Where are those straws, you need a bigger pile to clutch onto.
6) PSN vs Live: Pay monthly vs free, Achievements vs stability, ack, I don't even care. Simply put, the reason all your friends are on the 360 is because you don't own a PS3! Oh, and because you're a fanboy.

In closing, the reason that you don't understand how people can argue it the other way is because you don't understand how to make an arguement yourself."

There. It's a flame. You're obviously trolling for that purpose or you wouldn't have put up such a stupid article. Flame me back, then fuck off. We try harder round herewith our comparisons.
brobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 09:57
brobots
Yeah the controller is just a total preference thing. I played GTAIII, Vice City, and San Andreas on the PS2, so that controller is just permanently paired with the GTA experience for me. When I later bought the XBOX ports, the controller never really felt right for me.

Yeah Saint's Row would let you enter cheats, and then choose to activate/de-activate them from your cellphone menu. If you entered one, the game would tell you all cheats would be disabled while they were active. So no big deal, you turn them off before you save and you're gold right? Wrong. No matter what, if you save after a code has been entered (activated or not), no more achievements forever. I assume R* wouldn't make the same mistake as THQ did, but, again, I don't want to have to alter how I play GTA for an achievement (because I know I will). I don't want to be hesitant to use codes, or force myself to play the Darts minigame for 3 hours to score a 180, when there are perfectly good hookers to beat up, y'know?
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:03
Snaileb
Glipe is a little bit angry at someone wanting to buy it for a different console than the PS3.

I'm getting this on the 360 because I support multi-console releases that are new to the 360. If we don't buy them, then other gaming companies will look at the numbers and disregard the thought of ever making their game multi release.. DMC4 was good on the 360, and GTA4 will be too.

Not really much of an arguement to make there.
glipe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:10
glipe
@Snaileb: not in the least, bud. I'm probably going to get mine for the 360 too, for no other reason than my PS3 doesn't run on my only HD source (LCD monitor only does 60Hz, needs 100. =(

I hate fanboys. I love my consoles, all of them. Sometimes I choose a game based on what controller feels best for me (FPSs, if not on the PC, I live having on the 360. DMC? Gotta be the PS pads!) or on merits it actually has on the console. Not because of some kind of fealty towards either company.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:13
Kryptinite
I have more friends on 360 so I'm getting it for 360.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:34
Snaileb
Ah, I never meant anything like that. I don't exactly think he's a fanboy (look at his banner) but rather he was reposting an article that got pulled from N4G.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:35
Gameboi
I've been through 4 Xbox 360's, and I'm still on my first PS3. Needless to say, I'll be getting the PS3 version.
ShawnKelfonne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:39
ShawnKelfonne
My house has both a PS3 and a 360. The 360 is currently dead and no longer under warranty. This is after two previous RRODs.
Winner? PS3.
PacoDG's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:40
PacoDG
I am on my third 360, still can't bring myself to buy a PS3 yet (need some more motivating games. I know the time will come eventually).


on glipe: I am a Nintendo fanboy to the max. The whole thing was written half jokingly. I was inspired by GamePro 's lies and bias comparison things on games.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:41
Snaileb
"The 360 is currently dead and no longer under warranty."

That's impossible, unless you modded your xbox.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:44
Gameboi
@PacoDG

Even if you feel the Xbox 360 has better games, the PS3 is worth buying just to be able to join us on Wed/Fri/Sat for Dtoid online matches. We have us some fun with Warhawk, CoD 4, UT3, and soon to be Vegas 2...

Test out the water. I think you'll find the experience gratifying, and wish that you had joined up sooner.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:46
Gameboi
Just to clear up any questions, I'm not saying ditch the 360 if you enjoy it -- but don't hesitate to dive into the PS3 experience as well.
SoopaFly TNT's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:51
SoopaFly TNT
Getting it for PS3. My XBOX crapped out on me for the 3rd time. I returned to store and got a new one, and immediately sold on eBay. Tired of putting up with the shit. I also wonder about XBOX Live holding up with all the people playing on server. XBOX Live has seen better days.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:56
GuitarAtomik
Eh. Besides the DLC, the differences between the 2 are going to be extremely negligible. I know Wipeout HD is going to have custom soundtracks so that might make it into the PS3 version too (or patched later).

That said, I'm getting the X360 version.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 10:56
king3vbo
The flames... THE FLAMES!

Im getting it on 360 mainly because most of my friends have a 360, so the online will be better for me. And I like the controller a lot better
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 11:11
big filth
Achievements!! case closed.
PacoDG's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 11:13
PacoDG
Gameboi: C'mon, a sixaxis for first person shooters!? Warhawk I have to say I am interested in. I was interested in Lair until everyone said how much it sucks (still I am curious about it).

Ron: My bad about the button, I did not know, updated.
cbre88x's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 11:28
cbre88x
Never thought I'd see so much loyalty to a company that royally fucks people over time and time again. Are people really just that stupid. I guess it's kind of like politics these days...it's the "trend" to be a democrat. It's a trend to cut your wrist, act emo, and throw up after every meal.

Someone needs to go back to EH 101. In a persuasive essay, NEVER say your side is the best side. Feed your points and let the reader decipher on their own.

I'll stick with my PC that outperforms your clusterfuck of a system.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 11:35
Gameboi
@PacoDG

Personally, I didn't care for Lair. As far as FPS's are concerned, I have no issues with the SIXAXIS vs. the Xbox 360's controller.

Trust me, the adjustment from one to the other and back again is no problem. Since most games have varying control set-ups anyway, you are more used to relearning them for each game that you play than you may have realized.
Chocobo Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 11:50
Chocobo Knight
As much as I'd like to stay true to the Playstation, most of the friends I have that are gamers have a 360 and will be getting GTA IV for that when it comes out. I'm really hyped for the multiplayer so this is the deciding factor on going with the 360 version over the PS3 version.
Revolt in Colour's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 11:51
Revolt in Colour
Being a closet achivement whore + all my friends have 360s + DLC + I don't own a PS3 = 360 version for me.

Even if I had a PS3 I would probably still get for 360 for the first 3 above reasons.
bmdubya's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 12:08
bmdubya
Man, how do you people go through Xbox 360 consoles so fast? Granted, I am on my second Xbox, but it runs a lot better than the first one I had. But I've seen people that have gone through like 5 or 6 consoles. Do you play football with your Xbox or something? While the hardware isn't that great, if you treat it well and let it have enough air circulation, it should be fine. Also, I'm getting GTA for the 360 because its the only console I own right now. I can't afford a PS3 right now.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 12:14
AngelsDontBurn
Achievements should never be a reason, lol.
Revolt in Colour's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 12:22
Revolt in Colour
@AngelsDontBurn

When they add replay value to the game, it's a valid reason. If not for achievements I would rarely pick up games after I had beaten them the first time.
brobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 12:43
brobots
@ bmdubya

I grow so weary of people continually arguing this point. NO. NO ONE THROWS THEIR 360 LIKE A FOOTBALL. I treat my consoles much better than I treat most human beings, yet I've had four die in 12 months. The only thing I'm guilty of is actually using my 360 on a regular basis. The hardware is a POS, this is fact. 360s will die at random, this is fact. This is the main reason I'm getting it for PS3. I have zero faith that my 360 will survive for even more than a couple more months without GTAIV. With GTAIV, it probably wouldn't survive launch day (the game is both technically demanding and I'm going to play it for hours and hours).
Yashoki's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 12:47
Yashoki
SoopaFly: I also wonder about XBOX Live holding up with all the people playing on server

It's a fucking 360, not a dell inspiron. Everybody talks about live as if its the laggiest shit fest ever that seems to die every other day. It's fine, it's been fine, it's only been DOWN and unplayable once.

Yeah, the online isn't the best thing in the world (i'd rather have dedicated servers) but be reasonable.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 12:57
Crunshii
PS3, cuz smart players stick to something that can play their games.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 13:14
Snaileb
Crunshii don't call us dumb or I'll point out that your system.. is.. um...

No you're dumb.

:p
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2008 16:12
kawitchate
own both consoles, on my second 360, and i *think* i'm getting it for the 360 for 3 reasons:

1) friend is getting it on 360, so multiplayer on live
2) downloadable content (which i believe is exclusive, not timed)
3) it's supposed to look more vibrant, "cartoony" on the 360, which is what i'd prefer

that said, i'm still not 100% sure.
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