Today's big news from CES has to be the inclusion of Darth Vader and Yoda in Soul Calibur IV. It was completely unexepected, and for the Star Wars geek in me, it got me insanely excited.
It sucks that the characters will be console exclusive from the get-go, but get out a pen and paper, write down the date, the time, and the following: Six months after this game releases, Vader and Yoda will show up as DLC on Xbox Live and PSN. End of story.
Already, though, people are complaining. They've seen the pictures and watched the CES trailer, and they're not happy. The two biggest complaints I've heard are:
Why doesn't Vader's lightsbaer cut through Mitsurugi's sword?!?! Were you expecting more? That would've totally broken the game, idiots. Look, you're not going to get something perfectly lined up with the way things work in the Star Wars galaxy. Otherwise, Vader and Yoda should be able to dispatch everyone without so much as lifting a finger, and there's no reason to play SCIV. It's an arcade-style fighter, meaning there are arcade-style characters. Don't expect something like The Force Unleashed that simulates how a lightsaber really works.
Vader and Yoda don't fit into the story!!!! Did Link, Spawn or Heihachi really fit in? Not exactly. Namco made storylines for them, ranging from the simple to the stupid. I don't think they're even going to bother trying to explain this. They will most likely just incorporate them in as characters who won't have a story mode and characters you won't meet in story mode, which removes the need for them to have a story of their own.
But seriously, guys, don't get so uppity about this just yet. There's no need to crap all over it until we've seen these two more in action or until we know if Namco is going to try and incorporate them in with some kind of hair-brained story, but for now, just sit back, relax, and enjoy the fact that we'll get to play as Star Wars characters in a fighting game that (hopefully) won't suck.
I don't really care since I'm not getting the game or into Star Wars but I think both of them should have been included on both consoles. There is no reason not to.
If people are still knocking the physics of SoulCalibur IV after the addition of Yoda and Vader, then they need to calm the fuck down. Would you rather have the game be true to the world of "Star Wars," or instead have the game close to being balanced? When you recall that online play is going to be one of the standout features of the game, why would you ever vote for the former? So you'd rather play thousands of Yoda and Vader users online that that can cut your weapon in half, instead of realizing that balance is the key of any good fighting engine? Wow, that's fucking excellent! Can you people please stop playing games before they infect you with their non-realistic attributes, please? Leave your controllers at the door.
If they even try to explain the appearance of two "Star Wars" characters in story mode I may never be able to play it with either Yoda or Vader. It's just too retarded...
However, if they just pretend the game is actually a fighting game, which means that the narrative should be ignored as much as possible - and even more in special cases that involve characters jumping universes to enter the fray - then the game could end up being pretty respectable. Trying to connect the dots is simply unnecessary, and therefore it is something Namco should try to avoid.
Of course, there's no way they would actually be smart enough to realize that.
I think just having a thought of adding Vader and Yoda in SCIV throws out any type of explination for a story.
Hated the exclusives in SCII, most likely will not bother to touch Vader and Yoda unless needed to. (and knowing SC series lately, i'll need to.)
seriously what's up with these off beat dream matches? I understand a small mix of characters...but Vader and Yoda is about the most out of place thing to do when there's more from the Namco games alone to choose from for a exclusive appearance. Next thing you know, Namco will pull the "most characters don't know [insert series or name here]" just like the BS they pulled on why Namco X Capcom wouldn't hit outside of Japan.
Hahha, I love that people are now making side blogs about this news now.
But in all seriousness (or in respect for silliness), I agree with you NihonTiger. These fighting games are NOT really supposed to be coherent or even make sense. They're supposed to be fun, grandiose, and visceral, and even a little tongue-in-cheek silliness.
And this is why I love Soul Calibur. It's really all about the fighting when it comes down to it.
I would've rather have like some other character from a Namco Bandai property, like say a character from the .hack series. They would better fit into the damn thing. I kinda fear that theyre gonna make those characters really cheap and have them unusable in like tournaments and such.
SC plot is awfully unimportant to me. I feel bad for those who take it seriously and feel it's being ruined. But for real, there are better stories out there. It's no big loss.
Nihon, great blog. I agree with you completely. Games are entertainment, this addition will entertain countless people despite the haters.
Is it really a problem to add an extra character to play as that's pure fan-fare? Rehtorical question and the answer is NO!
Stop bitching, stop whinning. They most likely will only be selectable in Arcade mode, if not they'll have some piss-poor story which won't screw with the continuity of the Soul Calibur story.
Nihon, I'm actually jealous of your wall bro. Well done.
As for your blog, my only complaint is that Soul Calibur is a story of history and Vader and Yoda don't fit in. How about taking some great warrior out of history and putting them into the combat, instead of taking a sci-fi character just to "Milk the cow". It's just a ploy to get gamers to buy their games and it's going to work.
"It's just a ploy to get gamers to buy their games and it's going to work."
So why not do it if it's going to work? You're complaining for no reason. It's not going to do anything to the game if you don't use them, so why does it matter? Is the Soul Caliber story really that important?
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I don't really care since I'm not getting the game or into Star Wars but I think both of them should have been included on both consoles. There is no reason not to.
I cant understand what the problem is. The SC games are great fighters, so having awesome characters like yoda and vader cannot be a bad thing.
And thanks for mentioning that they'll be available for download later! It'll be sweet to put them against each other.
If people are still knocking the physics of SoulCalibur IV after the addition of Yoda and Vader, then they need to calm the fuck down. Would you rather have the game be true to the world of "Star Wars," or instead have the game close to being balanced? When you recall that online play is going to be one of the standout features of the game, why would you ever vote for the former? So you'd rather play thousands of Yoda and Vader users online that that can cut your weapon in half, instead of realizing that balance is the key of any good fighting engine? Wow, that's fucking excellent! Can you people please stop playing games before they infect you with their non-realistic attributes, please? Leave your controllers at the door.
If they even try to explain the appearance of two "Star Wars" characters in story mode I may never be able to play it with either Yoda or Vader. It's just too retarded...
However, if they just pretend the game is actually a fighting game, which means that the narrative should be ignored as much as possible - and even more in special cases that involve characters jumping universes to enter the fray - then the game could end up being pretty respectable. Trying to connect the dots is simply unnecessary, and therefore it is something Namco should try to avoid.
Of course, there's no way they would actually be smart enough to realize that.
I think just having a thought of adding Vader and Yoda in SCIV throws out any type of explination for a story.
Hated the exclusives in SCII, most likely will not bother to touch Vader and Yoda unless needed to. (and knowing SC series lately, i'll need to.)
seriously what's up with these off beat dream matches? I understand a small mix of characters...but Vader and Yoda is about the most out of place thing to do when there's more from the Namco games alone to choose from for a exclusive appearance. Next thing you know, Namco will pull the "most characters don't know [insert series or name here]" just like the BS they pulled on why Namco X Capcom wouldn't hit outside of Japan.
I'm hypnotized by the morgans and cammy
What Aziel13 said.....
Hahha, I love that people are now making side blogs about this news now.
But in all seriousness (or in respect for silliness), I agree with you NihonTiger. These fighting games are NOT really supposed to be coherent or even make sense. They're supposed to be fun, grandiose, and visceral, and even a little tongue-in-cheek silliness.
And this is why I love Soul Calibur. It's really all about the fighting when it comes down to it.
BTW, nice new girls, I see a little nipplage on the kawaii nihon-jin josei famicom ni shimasu.
I would've rather have like some other character from a Namco Bandai property, like say a character from the .hack series. They would better fit into the damn thing. I kinda fear that theyre gonna make those characters really cheap and have them unusable in like tournaments and such.
I'm just here to read the people's comments about the Star Wars storyline being destroyed by a video game.
Star Wars fans amuse me in that they're tools and do toolish things.
SC plot is awfully unimportant to me. I feel bad for those who take it seriously and feel it's being ruined. But for real, there are better stories out there. It's no big loss.
BTW, that vid is awesome.
Nihon, great blog. I agree with you completely. Games are entertainment, this addition will entertain countless people despite the haters.
Is it really a problem to add an extra character to play as that's pure fan-fare? Rehtorical question and the answer is NO!
Stop bitching, stop whinning. They most likely will only be selectable in Arcade mode, if not they'll have some piss-poor story which won't screw with the continuity of the Soul Calibur story.
Nihon, I'm actually jealous of your wall bro. Well done.
As for your blog, my only complaint is that Soul Calibur is a story of history and Vader and Yoda don't fit in. How about taking some great warrior out of history and putting them into the combat, instead of taking a sci-fi character just to "Milk the cow". It's just a ploy to get gamers to buy their games and it's going to work.
Some people will complain about anything.
"It's just a ploy to get gamers to buy their games and it's going to work."
So why not do it if it's going to work? You're complaining for no reason. It's not going to do anything to the game if you don't use them, so why does it matter? Is the Soul Caliber story really that important?