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Regarding rumors
Nick Chester | 1:04 PM on 09.19.2008 58 comments


Earlier today, we ran a front page story regarding a rumored "Xbox 360 name change." The source was a forum posting on the excellent Cheap Ass Gamer forums. As it turns out, the post was part of a contest, one put in place to prove one thing: Gaming blogs (and other outlets) are quick to hop on rumors, and could easily be duped.

We were.

The post was removed in short order, but not with my consent (I am, from what they tell me, the "boss" around here when it comes to editorial). Had I been awake (no, I'm not a robot), I would have suggested the post be updated to clarify the situation. But what's done is done; not a big deal. We jumped on a story fast, and we're not the only ones (see also: Engadget, Kotaku, etc.).

So here's the point: Destructoid is a videogaming blog. All day long we posts news, screenshots, reviews, opinions, and original gaming related features. Being a blog, we operate a bit differently than other types publications, and I'd like think (most of) our readers expect that from us. Our tone is different, our content is different, and -- for the most part -- our readers are different. With that in mind, we also post rumors from various sources. We will always label "rumors" as such, and when applicable, we will follow up with the parties involved to verify or deny said rumor.

The folks at CAG set out to make a point, and they did so in a rather funny way, if I must say. Does this mean that we'll stop posting rumors, or that we won't deliver speculative information without first following up with and exhausting every last resource? No, but when we do post rumors keep something in mind: they are to be taken with a grain of salt. We will never knowingly mislead our readers (i.e. fabricate a rumor for hits or controversy); it's only our intention to deliver gaming-related information to our readers that we feel they'd be interested in hearing about.

So ... how has your morning been?



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MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:20
MrSadistic
Don't worry about it baby, it's cool

*hugs*

I love you
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:21
Nick Chester
Oh, I'm not worried about it, really. There's quite an uproar in some places over it; I'm just trying to clarify our position on the whole thing.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:22
BlindsideDork
Except for MGS4 and L4D. HAHA!

I like zombies.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:22
Wexx
It is the internet, everyone should know everything...

My morning's been all right, started out with 5 pieces of French toast :D
shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:24
shipero
I spilt coffee all over my desk. So mine's not been great.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:26
wardrox
I read on the CAG forum you got fired for pulling the rumour post?

I made a funny.
gotdurnrite's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:27
gotdurnrite
So am I going to get my money back from my Gamestop preorder or what?

I didn't get a receipt and the clerk but the money in his pocket, but I'm still good right?
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:28
Niero
Serious business, this internet. That's what I heard.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:29
Y0j1mb0
I got a papercut boo boo but I'll survive. Also I heard a rumor Sadistic is really Sadie G and that he's bringing her back soon.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:31
MrSadistic
maybe.............
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:32
TrailerParkJesus
This looks much worse on Cheap Ass Gamer than it does on all the other blogs, I think. At least in the long run.

What they did is like, treason, or something.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:34
Darren Nakamura
I don't really see anything wrong with posting rumors as long as they're labeled as rumors. We should all know well enough that while the rumors frequently turn out to be true, sometimes they are totally bogus.

But then, anybody who believed the XBox 360 would change its name is just daft.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:36
MaxVest
I thought the Xbox Granite would be stone-cooled.
MYL0R's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:41
MYL0R
lied to and deceived. that's how I felt.
but I accept your apology. make up secks plz?
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:43
blehman
Is it still morning? Also, I heard a rumor you failed "You Oughta Know" at PAX. Was this also pulled off of another blog?
nicojay's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:48
nicojay
Hang about... are you trying to say that your american "rumor" is the same as our english empire "rumour" meaning unverified blahdy blah. There I was thinking your "rumor" was internet virtual concrete FACT.
It's early evening here and I just ate an under cooked pizza.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:48
vexed alex
@ TrailerParkJesus

What they did was hilarious. It proves that anyone can make up some random ass rumor and get the attention they're craving. It's pretty sad in my opinion. I mean, the guy did what? Print out a sheet of paper with some words on it and posted some pictures of a few Elites? More research should be done. It's all I'm saying...

<3
Demios's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:49
Demios
This thing did get out of hand but then again that's the madness that is the blogosphere. News can be placed online in an instant while in the past news website would double/triple check their sources and maybe get a comment from the manufacturer/developer.

Sometimes it bothers me the level of shit that can be summoned over small things online sometimes...
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:51
bloodylip
My morning (and afternoon) have been okay so far. I had a calzone for lunch.

I thought it was quite hilarious how the big K reacted when they found out it was a made-up rumor to teach video game blogs a lesson. It must be lonely up on that hill where the K-Towers are.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:51
Nick Chester
@blehman:

I'm going to BAN YOU FROM THE INTERNET!
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:51
MaxVest
It proved that if CAG wants to make sure it won't get mentioned in blogs from now on, this is a really good way to go about it.

It's like giving the finger to your advertisers just to make a point because you think they need to learn a lesson. Sure, they might learn the lesson. And now you look like a dumbass that nobody wants to spend time with. Everything has a cost.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:57
Nick Chester
Yeah, when I see Cheap at TGS, I'm totally going to fight him. :D I'll bite his knees. (He's so tall.)
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:00
xe-cute
TBH I was sad to see it being pulled after It was found out to be a hoax for a competition... simply because I thought someone had won the competition fair and square maybe... then all of a sudden he had not done... maybe because he may not be able to prove it.


As you say I think it is best to come clean and just update the stories rather than bury them and pretend it never happened.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:00
Niero
@maxvest - it wasn't a cag staff post though, it was a random user. is there something I'm missing?
Genfuyung's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:01
Genfuyung
Its great to see how Destructoid responded to this. Kotaku got their feelings hurt and updated their article to say

"It appears that this rumor story could be CAG throwing their credibility out the window as part of a contest. In the past CAG has proven to be a reliable site, having broken a number of stories through apt reporting. It appears that may no longer be the case."

I can sum that up as wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:01
Nick Chester
@Niero:

The post was part of a contest which was essentially, "Who can make up some bullshit and have a blog pick up on it first?"
Genfuyung's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:03
Genfuyung
Even though like Niero just said, It wasnt a post by CheapyD it was a blog post by a user of the site. How the fuck that should have any effect on CAG's credibility is beyond me.
RICHARD BLOCKER's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:05
RICHARD BLOCKER
No harm, no foul. This is the reason I read this site. I want the bleeding edge of games reportage. Real or not. I want the speculation and the rumors along with the weeks releases.
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:07
blehman
NOOOOO!!! NOT MAH INTERNETS!!!!
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:13
Knivy
It's ok nick, I heard a rumor of you failing some song on rock band and I totally didn't believe it.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:14
Sharpless
So that's why, when I clicked on the link to the post in my RSS reader, it said "post not live." Tricksy.

I don't see what the big deal is with posting rumors. I mean, I don't think blogs should just post ANY rumor they hear. But I want to hear rumors, if there's a chance they might be valid. I, however, don't condone Brian Crecente's whiny rebuttal.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:19
king3vbo
NOOOOOO!!! NOT BLEHMAN'S INTERNETS!!!!
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:24
Danmartigan
NOOOOOO!!! NOT BLEHMAN'S INTERNETS!!!!
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:28
eternalplayer2345
This proves nothing for me, GASP a gaming website posted something about games!
Funktastic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:36
Funktastic
People who don't look into things and believe the first thing they see are people who shouldn't be using the internet . . .
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:42
mix
It's ok we still love you!

These are the people who cry when the weather man says there's rain (SPOILERS) then it doesn't happen (OMG) rumors are just that, rumors.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:47
ScottyG
@Niero

On the latest CAGCast one of the cohosts (wombat I think?) was talking about how some sites seem to post stuff purely for hits. Then he came up with the contest that CheapyD officially didn't endorse, even though he was supplying the prize (a free game of the winner's choosing that is $60 or less). I almost forgot about it until now. :)

I'll have to go through the CAG forums, to see how many other baiting attempts were made and what they said.

I also love this line from Brian Crecente:
I don't have the time, or the inclination to listen to all of their podcasts to make sure that the stories that run on the site are valid.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:59
Bob Muir
Brian Crecente seems pretty pissed off over at Kotaku. Oh well, it's really no big deal.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:26
CelicaCrazed
If there's one thing the gaming blogosphere doesn't have enough of, it's elitism. When they're purposely trying to make others look bad by challenging their integrity, that's just being a douche. I don't mind DToid posting rumours, real or not. It's a rumor so I find them to be interesting reads. It's just when it's not those 12 year old fanyboys on forums but the people you have a mutual respect for is when it hurts most.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:34
RonBurgandy2010
I would be pissed if you didn't run rumors.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:38
MaxVest
@Niero, other: I've gotta admit, now that I've looked at the source, I don't see how anyone ran with this unless CAG staff were drawing their attention to it.

Then again, I've been to the site like once and was so repelled by the layout that I never looked at anything other than the front page deals. So my bad in assuming that this had something to do with CAG staff.
Teta's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:48
Teta
I still love you.
You never failing god rock of rock band.
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:51
naia-the-gamer
What's funny about the Kotaku thing was that later on they posted another rumor about the new 50 Cent game being canned and THAT one was also wrong.

It's not their day at the Kotaku Tower.

My morning and afternoon has been pretty good ^_^
Arcanum's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:53
Arcanum
I thought the point of the prank was to post something unbelievably stupid, and still get blogs to post it.

I don't see what's so unbelievable about that rumor. Some prank.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 16:24
Sharpless
@Arcanum
The rumor was that they were renaming the Xbox 360, unless I'm mistaken. That's pretty damn ludicrous.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 16:25
Sharpless
@Arcanum
The rumor was that they were renaming the Xbox 360, unless I'm mistaken. That's pretty damn ludicrous.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 17:45
Alexradl
Rumors are fun. I'm seriously serious, seriously.
nintendoll's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 18:34
nintendoll
Aww Kotaku is all buttsore.

I don't feel like D-toid's ever led me astray. News-wise anyway.

I personally think it's pretty funny.
Steel Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 20:10
Steel Squirrel
Nice, that was a classy move on your part, Nick Chester.

I think you should apologize to Blehman though, that was his internets. He looks pretty torn up over it, his avatar won't stop eating now.

I always take the rumors with a giant chunk of salt, I just hope everyone else has the sense to do so as well.
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