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And the Gamers who play them...PC Vs. Console.
Neonie | 11:28 AM on 05.01.2008 19 comments


"I'm a grown up, I don't play console games." This was a comment made by some ignorant moron last night as I was playing Team Fortress 2. (On a computer, on Steam).

I find this statement inaccurate for two reasons:
1. Age has nothing to do with your platform (of choice) or any platform you play at all.
2. Neither PC or console are any better then the other, however, both have their ups and downs.

Because of our misguided friends statement last night, I'll start with Consoles.

Consoles offer something a PC never can, and something someone who has only ever played PC games in their life can never understand: The feeling of having a controller in your hand. This is the way I grew up, and would never trade it for anything in the world. It's something a mouse and key board can just not match.

Platformers: Have you ever tried to play any kind of platformer on a PC? (Via Emulator or otherwise?). It just doesn't work, I dare you to play Super Mario World on your PC and tell me it's a good system.

Fighting Games: I'm not really sure how much I need to say on this to make my point. You need two crucial things to play fighting games: A D-pad and buttons. When it comes right down to it, WASD and your arrows keys are just not going to cut it.

Free Roam Games: Any game where you find your self roaming around a large area for an extended period of time should be put on console. And you may think "But MMO's...."

That's exactly my point, a computer is something very easy to sit in front of for hours on end. If it were on a console I think it would be harder for anyone to sit there for as much time, thus making it harder to become addicted to the point that some people have. ( Of course this is my theory, I generally become more exhausted in front of a T.v./console then a computer. May or may not yield the same results for others)

Pc's have long been home of a few key game types. I however disagree with one stereotype surrounding the mouse and key board.

FPS: This depends entirely on how the game was made, and even then, neither console or PC is without flaws when it comes to FPS.

First I just want you to imagine trying to throw a grenade in Halo 3 on a PC. Which button do you press? A button half way down your key board? Use the scroll wheel?

I find my self very often in Team Fortress 2 as a Pyro, I go to switch to shot gun (using the scroll wheel) and wind up with my axe. In the heat of battle, it's a bit of an unpractical system. Yes they have a button next to my movement that would allow me to change that one at a time, but that would also require me to stop moveing.

For all the hell it get's, maybe Halo 3 was over hyped, but it's still a really decent game if you have some friends to play with when you get on. Sure if you just play matchmaking and don't have any key friends then your probably wasting your time, but with friends, it can be an awesome game.

However some FPS work much better on PC then console. Portal and Team Fortress 2 are great examples. With Team Fortress 2 you NEED custom maps, and servers. With Portal, you NEED a bit of extra accuracy for some things.

Overall, I don't think either are any better then the other for FPS. I think that depends entirely on how the games made and that they will both be flawed in certain areas no matter what.

MUD's: Good ol Mud's. That's actually where my name originated from. Mud's should NEVER be played on a console. EVER. This is fairly obvious though, as you need a key board to play them.

RTS: This I will say is a very PC game. I think the only other system that could pull it off would be the DS if they did it right. But mainly PC's have this one in the bag. There are so many commands in RTS's that it's just more practice to sit in front of a computer screen where everything can be easily laid out for you. the goal of an RTS is to make you feel like your in command, something I will agree is very hard to do with a controller, where you spend most of your time in awkward situations, being told what to do, or in instant peril.

Final Verdict Neither PC or Console are without their flaws. I would love a practiced way to change my weapon on PC, and I would love the extra accuracy on consoles.

Neither of these platforms should be ignored by anyone who loves games, regardless of age, race, or gender. They both have unique experiences and play styles. They both have top notch games (they both have shit games as well). If you have your head so far up your ass you think one platform is better then the other, please take it out for a second, and see there's a world beyond it.



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galagabug 's Destructoid Blog
seems like you mention the advantage of input devices rather than an argument on why a pc or console is your preferred way to play.

you can always get a control pad for the pc, or a keyboard/mouse adapter for a console.

for me, its not having to worry about system requirements. i put a game in my console, it plays and displays properly.
Neonie's Destructoid Blog
@galaga

I generally tryed to focous on the common arguments for each. one of the biggest arguments for pC gammers is that a mouse and key board is way better then a controller. I don't find this to be true in every case, however.
MaxVest's Destructoid Blog
Good cblog, but, uhhh, didn't this contest end a month ago?
Neonie's Destructoid Blog
@Maxvest

*Shrug* I was not really worried about the constest to begin with. The title just fit.
Y0j1mb0's Destructoid Blog
Good read, Neonie.
DaedHead8's Destructoid Blog
Great write up Neonie. I've been saying a lot of the same things for awhile now.
king3vbo's Destructoid Blog
I agree with this blog, and all things contained within
Anonononomous's Destructoid Blog
I'm glad you tried to be fair, but, honestly, all but the last two points have problems.

Since most of your positives for consoles amount to "it uses a controller," you really aren't giving the console a fair argument. I can plug a 360 controller into a PC and play platforming games just fine. If I wanted to get a fighting game pad for the PC I'm sure that I could do that, too. And your statement that it's "better" to put free-roaming games on the console so that people won't play for as long as they would on a PC is really dumb. I don't know what to say about it. First off, couches are comfortable for long times. Second, saying that not being able to play for a long time is a good thing is just silly.

On the PC side, while I think that shooters should only be placed on PCs, your support here isn't as good as it could be. The two faults you find are not problems at all. In every FPS with off-hand grenades I've played it's always F or G to throw them and that's not a stretch at all. If you're going to say that that's too far then why is the bumper not too far away from the trigger on the 360 pad? I also have never really had much trouble with the scroll-wheel for selecting weapons. If you want more precision the number keys are easy to hit even while keeping your finger on W to go.

While it may seem that I only support the PC, that's not the case. I have a Wii and a 360 and play lots on all of the platforms. One major pro to the consoles that you missed is local multiplayer. Split screen on a PC just doesn't exist anymore and you can't have anything like Brawl on the PC. Actually, multiplayer was a pro you missed in both cases. I'd argue that online on the PC is a bonus to it since the audience (in my limited experience, mostly with the Battlefield games) is more mature on the PC. Whether that has to do with the cost of PC gaming, the higher technical knowledge necessary, the stigma against it or other factors, I don't know.
Neonie's Destructoid Blog
@anon

I do support your conterarguments and can even agree with some of it.

My problem with the grandes is selecting which grenade i'm useing, not throwing them. And with weapons, like I said, when you need to select a weapon in a pinch, the scroll wheel or "q" button can be leathal if you happen to make a mistake or stop moveing for to long. The bumper works becuase you can easily have your finger over a bumper for quick access and keep moveing while useing it.

Your right I did not take in as much factor in multiplayer as I could of and do support your argument that PC players are generally older and more mature, it was actually a point I intended to make but forgot about. This is why counter arguments are great, you took on some points I missed. Thanks for that :D.
Rifter01's Destructoid Blog
This topic is good and I think it helps to unite things in a grander scope, I believe. The emphasis _should_ be more on games themselves than platform/hardware (be it console or computer). Any negative energies are still stuck on the console wars even all the way back to the old days of Atari vs. Commodore vs. Apple vs IBM/PC. The hardware may change, but the game is the game (is the game).
Anonononomous's Destructoid Blog
I guess I can see how grenade switching might be a problem, though I've not had any trouble in the few games with multiple grenades that I've played. In fact, I can only think of Republic Commando where, I think, it was Q for switching, maybe. I still think that the 19 easily accessible left hand buttons on the keyboard are usually more than enough, especially considering gamepads have less. Plus mice can have a good number of buttons, too.

I'd also factor in TV size vs higher possible monitor resolution and how PC games will look better in time while console games let you see the highest graphical settings when you first buy them but can't be upgraded if you wanted to expand the content of the piece.
razerangel's Destructoid Blog
Nice read neonie!
Neonie's Destructoid Blog
Thanks to everyone who's reading it :D. I'm suprised I haven't gotten any TL;DR comments xD.
adultswim810's Destructoid Blog
Free Roam Games: Any game where you find your self roaming around a large area for an extended period of time should be put on console. And you may think "But MMO's...."

what was your argument here?

also i dislike console fps's because most of them have auto aim.. have you ever tried to play halo3 without it!

and i also i agree with most people saying that you console arguments were mainly controller based.
Morrius's Destructoid Blog
Not a bad post Neonie (and we'll play some TF2 soon) but I have a couple of arguments. Chiefly I'll sum it up by saying that both formats have advantages and disadvantages. I'd rather play Street Fighter 4 on a keyboard than Starcraft 2 on a joypad.

Likewise with first person shooters, plug your 360 control pad into your PC and see how long you last playing TF2 over steam with it.

Enough said! However, I'll be picking up a PS3 because I'm fed up of waiting six months for buggy ports, and I really want GTA4, God of War 3 and suchlike. PC will always have the edge with shooters, strategy games and MMO's though.
Loler's Destructoid Blog
About your Halo 3 on pc argument, halo ce on pc had grenade switching bound to 'g' and throwing them bound to right mouse button, which worked very well considering that halo doesn't have a secondary fire on its guns. Plus a major problem with me playing on a controller is that I have to set the analog sensitivity lower for more precision, but what ends up happening is that i cant turn around fast enough when i see someone on the radar behind me. Maybe it's just me, but i see it as a huge problem whenever I play fps on consoles.

I agree with your things about fighting games and platformers, but as Anon has already said... you can plug in a controller to handle those problems.

Ehh anyway... I still love my consoles since MANY games nowadays arent released on pc :(
jkh13's Destructoid Blog
Good article, just one point. When switching between weapons on the pc most people use the q key to quick switch between 2 weapons, it doesn't really affect movement because speaking as a person that plays alot of PC games, the action is split second in timing, for me it doesnt affect my movement in the game at all because it is so quick to perform.


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