PC's used to have great games back when only a small, slightly upper-class part of society(and their kids) used them. The games became more and more crap in the 2000's and now we have the same games on both platforms.. PC gaming is dead apart from RTS and MMO's. Say what you want about mouse/keyboard: if 90% plays it fine with a controller your genre is DEAD.
I'm still going to invest around $700-1000 on a new PC because my old one is 3 years old, but there's no rush till StarCraft 2 because most other games still run or are just as playable on the 360/PS3. They look almost as good on monitor anyway. Now, in a year or two, you'll see more and more differences just like in the xbox/ps2 era. If they'll still make games for the PC by then, that is (Crysis does not count as game).
I'm still going to invest around $700-1000 on a new PC because my old one is 3 years old, but there's no rush till StarCraft 2 because most other games still run or are just as playable on the 360/PS3. They look almost as good on monitor anyway. Now, in a year or two, you'll see more and more differences just like in the xbox/ps2 era. If they'll still make games for the PC by then, that is (Crysis does not count as game).
Ill gladly teach you how to make your own PC you dirty dirty MAC user. From a PC gamer's prospective (and Ive owned a ton of consoles going back to the NES as well), its a bit disturbing.
If all a console is just a PC, but watered down so you can't do PC things like install any program, burn CDs, ect. Then you are subject to all of the same problems PCs are, including viruses, patches, blue screens, ect.
Oh well, at least the Wii still has and always will have just one SKU on the market.
If all a console is just a PC, but watered down so you can't do PC things like install any program, burn CDs, ect. Then you are subject to all of the same problems PCs are, including viruses, patches, blue screens, ect.
Oh well, at least the Wii still has and always will have just one SKU on the market.
That's why I like my console for game no upgrades, well not rediculous ones like a $400 GPU.
Even though I bought, at the time, a $400 gpu which now is worth like $100...
They both have their ups and downs.
Even though I bought, at the time, a $400 gpu which now is worth like $100...
They both have their ups and downs.
@ Caffeine
I must ask you, as a PC gamer, do you look down on those whoe game outside of the PC world? I ask because it seems that the majority of PC gamers try to be as condicending as possible to those who enjoy console gaming and I ask why?
From my stand point (someone who has done majority console gaming) console gaming is the least troublesome and the most user friendly. I know in four years time the market will evolve into something more, at least on the PC side of things, but consoles still churn out an abundance of diverse titles.
I just wonder if PC gaming is worth dealing with in the first place if what you currently have will be outdated in months time. I want your opinon on this matter.
I must ask you, as a PC gamer, do you look down on those whoe game outside of the PC world? I ask because it seems that the majority of PC gamers try to be as condicending as possible to those who enjoy console gaming and I ask why?
From my stand point (someone who has done majority console gaming) console gaming is the least troublesome and the most user friendly. I know in four years time the market will evolve into something more, at least on the PC side of things, but consoles still churn out an abundance of diverse titles.
I just wonder if PC gaming is worth dealing with in the first place if what you currently have will be outdated in months time. I want your opinon on this matter.
What you say about PC's needing to be upgraded isn't exactly true. Because honestly these days PC gaming can't do much more than consoles, from a horsepower standpoint. And there are pretty much no developers left who are making the latest and greatest thing that is going to be championing the PC's latest hardware. In fact, oustide of Crysis, I don't think any such thing exists. My PC has parts that are all 3-4 years old now and it plays everything I care about.
Probably because graphics in general have reached a relative plateau where improvements now are of nominal consequence to what you can make relevant to a game anyways. All the cool reasons to have a PC now, is because it's still an open platform that anybody can develop for. And none of the awesome indie and smaller studio titles need a top of the line rig. Plus all the mod content you can get for... well Valve and it's Source based stuff is the only relevant one still up and running big time.
And I'm not a one or the other gamer, I grew up on consoles and love them to death. I didn't get into PC games until this millenium even, so I missed a lot of the heyday. But even now, I really believe any serious gamer still should have a decent PC, because I think it's still on the forefront of innovation in gaming... just not on the graphics front.
Probably because graphics in general have reached a relative plateau where improvements now are of nominal consequence to what you can make relevant to a game anyways. All the cool reasons to have a PC now, is because it's still an open platform that anybody can develop for. And none of the awesome indie and smaller studio titles need a top of the line rig. Plus all the mod content you can get for... well Valve and it's Source based stuff is the only relevant one still up and running big time.
And I'm not a one or the other gamer, I grew up on consoles and love them to death. I didn't get into PC games until this millenium even, so I missed a lot of the heyday. But even now, I really believe any serious gamer still should have a decent PC, because I think it's still on the forefront of innovation in gaming... just not on the graphics front.
Very insightful stuff, Necros. You seem to have hit upon both the only things keeping me attached to PC gaming and the things that are trying to draw me to the consolicious dark side.
You're right: I do like being rewarded for my effort. I like to finish a tricky update, put on my party hat, roam the town to find a suitable place to mosh naked, and then retire to a night of senseless digital violence. I love the sweet catharsis of laying my fingertips on a fully-working keyboard after a long day of reformat-reformat-smack reproachfully-reformat.
It's a horrible cycle, the PC lifestyle, but for those of us that appreciate the constant fury/joy, it's the most rewarding.
You're right: I do like being rewarded for my effort. I like to finish a tricky update, put on my party hat, roam the town to find a suitable place to mosh naked, and then retire to a night of senseless digital violence. I love the sweet catharsis of laying my fingertips on a fully-working keyboard after a long day of reformat-reformat-smack reproachfully-reformat.
It's a horrible cycle, the PC lifestyle, but for those of us that appreciate the constant fury/joy, it's the most rewarding.
Personally, I agree with your comment about consoles being similiar to PCs in that you have a bunch of cords and clunky and confusing interfaces, at least for the average joe.
I can navigate the 360 dashboard fine, but my father once tried to play Project Gotham Racing and was kind of confused, even with the title being displayed at the bottom of the screen. They just expect the game to turn on, like in the NES days.
And if I move my 360 anywhere it's a fucking pain in the ass, I absolutely hate hooking it back up in the living room. I have to say though, the PS3 ia a breeze. Just plug the HDMI cable in and then the optical cable, and it's ready to go.
I can navigate the 360 dashboard fine, but my father once tried to play Project Gotham Racing and was kind of confused, even with the title being displayed at the bottom of the screen. They just expect the game to turn on, like in the NES days.
And if I move my 360 anywhere it's a fucking pain in the ass, I absolutely hate hooking it back up in the living room. I have to say though, the PS3 ia a breeze. Just plug the HDMI cable in and then the optical cable, and it's ready to go.
Glad to see that this feature has returned. I’m back at school now too, and I didn’t really write any c-blogs of substance over the break. That’s why I posted two yesterday!
Anyway, I agree on the PC gaming stuff. There isn’t really anything on a PC that I’m dying to play — not anything that doesn’t have a “serviceable port”, as you said. Well, aside from The Sims. And Spore. Plus, I have a laptop at school, and obviously, that’s not suitable for gaming.
I also agree on the whole console SKU thing. I’ve had to correct salespeople at Best Buy because of the misinformation that they’re feeding potential buyers. This shit shouldn’t be that confusing.
Anyway, I agree on the PC gaming stuff. There isn’t really anything on a PC that I’m dying to play — not anything that doesn’t have a “serviceable port”, as you said. Well, aside from The Sims. And Spore. Plus, I have a laptop at school, and obviously, that’s not suitable for gaming.
I also agree on the whole console SKU thing. I’ve had to correct salespeople at Best Buy because of the misinformation that they’re feeding potential buyers. This shit shouldn’t be that confusing.
Wow. Enjoyable read. Mostly because you covered all of the reasons why I don't play games on PC. When I do, they're usually games that are about 2 or 3 years old. By then maybe my computer will be able to run it.
Well I'm a PC gamer almost exclusively, so expect me to be biased. There are a lot of PC specific games that I really love, and a lot of the best indie games are PC only as well. I also have no problem whatsoever with upgrading my computer. It's just a matter of personal preference, I guess.
@ Eschatos
You do raise a very good point about indie games. Consoles have practically no growth area for indie games outside of homebrew, and every time a game like Aquaria or Audiosurf comes along, I'm a little disappointed that I can't try out their games (as a Mac user without a PC for gaming). Thank you for bringing up something I completely glossed over in my article.
You do raise a very good point about indie games. Consoles have practically no growth area for indie games outside of homebrew, and every time a game like Aquaria or Audiosurf comes along, I'm a little disappointed that I can't try out their games (as a Mac user without a PC for gaming). Thank you for bringing up something I completely glossed over in my article.
@VWGTI - Only when it comes to FPS games. I still own and game on consoles (360/Wii), but I just look at today and how much fewer games are released on PCs. I think back to the 1990's and can name a ton of absolutely amazing PC game that came out.
Not only that but the quality has dropped off steeply. The most frequently cited example is Deus Ex vs Deus Ex 2, one was designed for PCs and one was designed for consoles. One was award winning and cited as one of the best FPS games ever made and the other is relegated to a garbage bin we'd rather forget.
We're just a bitter bitter group in general, and don't like seeing or favorite games and franchises basically get raped by porting. Next up on the chopping block is Fallout and god help Bethesda if they make a turd.
Not only that but the quality has dropped off steeply. The most frequently cited example is Deus Ex vs Deus Ex 2, one was designed for PCs and one was designed for consoles. One was award winning and cited as one of the best FPS games ever made and the other is relegated to a garbage bin we'd rather forget.
We're just a bitter bitter group in general, and don't like seeing or favorite games and franchises basically get raped by porting. Next up on the chopping block is Fallout and god help Bethesda if they make a turd.
@VWGTI - Only when it comes to FPS games. I still own and game on consoles (360/Wii), but I just look at today and how much fewer games are released on PCs. I think back to the 1990's and can name a ton of absolutely amazing PC game that came out.
Not only that but the quality has dropped off steeply. The most frequently cited example is Deus Ex vs Deus Ex 2, one was designed for PCs and one was designed for consoles. One was award winning and cited as one of the best FPS games ever made and the other is relegated to a garbage bin we'd rather forget.
We're just a bitter bitter group in general, and don't like seeing or favorite games and franchises basically get raped by porting. Next up on the chopping block is Fallout and god help Bethesda if they make a turd.
Not only that but the quality has dropped off steeply. The most frequently cited example is Deus Ex vs Deus Ex 2, one was designed for PCs and one was designed for consoles. One was award winning and cited as one of the best FPS games ever made and the other is relegated to a garbage bin we'd rather forget.
We're just a bitter bitter group in general, and don't like seeing or favorite games and franchises basically get raped by porting. Next up on the chopping block is Fallout and god help Bethesda if they make a turd.
Console games are fun. PC games are fun. Can't we all just be friends?
Well all of us except the mac user. Can't we just burn him at the stake?
Seriously though if you look at your argument the other way. Is there really any reason to own a 360 if you have a gaming PC? I would say there are as many 360 exclusive games as there are PC exclusives. (I do both but I am just playing devil's advocate)
Well all of us except the mac user. Can't we just burn him at the stake?
Seriously though if you look at your argument the other way. Is there really any reason to own a 360 if you have a gaming PC? I would say there are as many 360 exclusive games as there are PC exclusives. (I do both but I am just playing devil's advocate)
Good rant! I pretty much keep my PC gaming limited to GameTap, but I love checking out random indie games like Cloud, De Blob, or Plasma Pong. Those are more time wasters than anything else though. And the multiple sku trend distrubs the hell out of me.
@ Wedge
I apologize. :)
@ Hito
As I tried to establish, I don't want to mess with all the hurdles of PC gaming when more PC games are now on consoles and don't require me to spend tons of money in upgrades or know what I'm doing beyond plugging in A/V cables. Of course, if you're a PC gamer, there's less reason to get a 360, but the way I see it, we've reached a point where a 360 owner has less reason to have a gaming rig.
I apologize. :)
@ Hito
As I tried to establish, I don't want to mess with all the hurdles of PC gaming when more PC games are now on consoles and don't require me to spend tons of money in upgrades or know what I'm doing beyond plugging in A/V cables. Of course, if you're a PC gamer, there's less reason to get a 360, but the way I see it, we've reached a point where a 360 owner has less reason to have a gaming rig.
I normally squeeze the life out of my pcs, I remember how I got the first Splinter Cell to run on my Pentium II 300mhz with a GeForce 2 MX 64mb.
Every console I got after my Genesis, was either bought second hand or own in some art contest (yeah, my drawing skills where very high for my age, now I can't win shit).
After my big PS2 failed, I informed myself of the possible failure rate of the console's lens and got a mint one.
My problem with consoles is the price I pay for the games, now with this "next-current-generation" thing as an excuse to rise the prices.
While I pay 50 euros (~73 USD) for Crysis, I have to pay 70 euros (~103 USD)for Mass Effect, both "next-gen" games.
Yeah...
Every console I got after my Genesis, was either bought second hand or own in some art contest (yeah, my drawing skills where very high for my age, now I can't win shit).
After my big PS2 failed, I informed myself of the possible failure rate of the console's lens and got a mint one.
My problem with consoles is the price I pay for the games, now with this "next-current-generation" thing as an excuse to rise the prices.
While I pay 50 euros (~73 USD) for Crysis, I have to pay 70 euros (~103 USD)for Mass Effect, both "next-gen" games.
Yeah...

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