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Starcraft 2 balance worries
Nad Crusher | 9:59 AM on 03.12.2008 19 comments


My favorite thing about Starcraft (despite my incredible suckage) has always been its balance. In no other RTS that I have ever played have the races been so equally matched. For every strategy there is a counter strategy, and a counter for that as well. But with the of new SC2 media coming out, I've been worried. Take alook at these 2 videos (the terran one's long so sxkip through it):






Now, my problem is that, while the Zerg now seem like an unstoppable force of pure rape and destruction, the Terrans seem like, well, the Terrans. The Zerg looks to have much more powerful units, and with their speed and cheapness it looks like they will be able to annihalate the Terran forces without much of a problem. Are my worries justified, or do you think that Blizzard will make this game as balanced as the last?



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Hoygeit's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:19
Hoygeit
I’m not worried as I’m certain they’ll work to balance out the factions. A lot of the Zerg videos I’ve seen have been pretty short and haven’t done any discussion on what are the counters to specific units that they’ve shown with the more extensive demonstrations of the Protoss and the Terrans.
Aciesethon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:23
Aciesethon
Didn't you see that video of Saviour being beaten by a zealot rush? The Zerg will definitely be beatable no matter what impression you may form BEFORE the game's even released.
Blizzard have made multiplayer the focal point of sc2 so I really doubt they are gonna screw up on it and if they do they will certainly patch it.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:24
Takeshi
No worries man. These video's aren't anywhere near the final product. At least that's what I think/hope.
BigPopaGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:31
BigPopaGamer
Also remember this, you saw a group of mutalisks, a few hydralisks and some zerglings taking on ONE bunker of marines. No single bunker is going to stand up to that long at all. If the terrans had had some Vikings or wraiths or goliaths also attacking, it might have been different. Don't forget, the strength of the Zerg is their ability to creat troops quickly and cheaply. If a Zerg player goes up against a Terrn with at least 1.5:1 ratio, he will lose.
brosef's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:39
brosef
I'm sure if the Zergs and Terrans are unbalanced that the game testers would pick up on it first thing. This game has been one of the most anticipated sequels in recent memory, so the production team is going to sweat every tiny detail. If one side is better than the other then that's a HUGE detail (oxymoron I know), and one they are surely aware of and fixing.

Also, I'm glad you took my advice and got a kick-ass avatar.
SCIENCE!!!
Techno Mage's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:40
Techno Mage
You have to remember that those videos are made specifically to showcase a certain race's power, meaning they cheat and make them more powerful than normal so it looks good, it wouldn't do to build up how awesome the Terrans/Protoss/Zerg are and then have them get their asses kicked in a release video.
Nad Crusher's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:41
Nad Crusher
Thanks brosef. I've noticed an incredible amount of Bill Nye love on D'toid.
glipe's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:56
glipe
I think you're thoroughly underestimating how used to balancing games Blizzard is! I just watched a developer commentary on the new Zerg units and one section showed a huge (HUGE) Zerg swarm rolling against what I think was a protoss choke point. The Zerg were getting held and slaughtered by the tonne, never looking close to getting through, yet just kept coming. Now, I think that's going to be something we see very often in SC2; moments that are initially too close to call.

And that's balance.
that1dood's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 10:59
that1dood
Have you played Starcraft? Then have no worries. They will won't screw this up. They know that if they screw up Starcraft 2, they will have full blown war with Korea.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 11:25
king3vbo
I think the point of the videos was to showcase the Zerg. The Terrans dont even fight back at parts, they just stand there and get raped.

I wouldn't worry about it, Blizzard is so hardcore about getting race balance right that I doubt it will be a problem in retail. Beta may be a different story, but thats the point of beta.
electristan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 11:38
electristan
Korea will plunge into civil war if this game ends up wrong. Blizzard know this so i think we will e fine.
electristan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 11:39
electristan
lol that1dood said the exact same thing almost word by word. now i know to read all the comments before posting.
WiLLiSTER's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 11:40
WiLLiSTER
Zerg are rape, just like always. You know this. :3

Seriously though, Blizzard is fully aware that people love SC because of how balanced it is. They won't release this until they're sure it's balanced properly.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 11:49
Knivy
Besides what has already been said, Blizzard is consulting professional SC players, so even if they screw up there will be someone there to make them notice.

In case all fails, patches :P.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 11:53
GuitarAtomik
nothing can stop the ZERG RUSH!!
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 12:53
CaffeinePowered
Blizzard will get the balance right, I'm sure they probably have a staff devoted entirely to just playing multiplayer matches constantly to get some statistics out of it.
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2008 14:45
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