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I Respond To My Last Post's Critics (NVGR)
NCHammer326 | 5:27 PM on 04.20.2009 16 comments




Looking back, I could've titled my last post "FUCK YOU ALL!! You're all a bunch of bastards! I hate you, personally (NVGR)" and gotten the same response as I did before. I admit that when I took a shot at certain people (you know who you are....unless you have no clue what I'm talking about) it was less about trying to be funny or do some actual criticizing, and more about getting something off my chest.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, simply read the second paragraph of this blog post and them skim through the comments section.

Let me say this: I didn't mean for anyone to to take it personally. So if it you took it personally, you need to grow up. Also, I'm not apologizing for what I said, because all I said was that people stopped helping me once I said that they weren't getting paid and this seems pretty true. Was I bitter about it? Yes, but I'll get to that in a bit.

Allow me to respond to some of the comments on my last post.


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16bitmonster asks many a question:


"wait, you wanted help to make a list to send to cracked to make money and fame but you didn't want to pass along any of that to the people who were going to help you? hmm.

also, its just pokemon.

also, also, is this really videogame related?

also, also, also, why did you post it there and not here? the "editing"? is that why? hmmm.. i want my 5 minutes back."

1. Look back at my last post and click on the link in regards to the second time I asked for help in the forums. I pretty much explained why you guys wouldn't be getting paid, but for the sake of this post I'll explain it in summarized manner.

-Both times I came to Destructoid for help, I already had the idea in mind, as well as several samples. I didn't want to give anything away, so I didn't bother to post ALL of the stuff (you'll notice I did post some ideas up).
-There's a section on Cracked's forums reserved for people who really want to write for Cracked. There are two things people do on this section: Pitch articles and comment on other people's articles. When you comment on a pitch, you're making suggestions and helpful comments/critiques.
-Only the person who actually writes out the final version (after it has gone through the pitching process (which includes a sample write-up), goes to the editorial board, gets the green light, etc) gets paid. There have been articles with more than writer, but that involves a mutual agreement between the two.
-It's $50 per article. If i divided it up equally, the people who googled "most disturbing pokemon" and posted it in the forums get paid the same amount as the guy who has to write up the whole thing. Common sense dictates that isn't fair.
-Fame?

2. This is the point where I would scan your blog for any signs of hypocrisy. I thought I encountered something, but you seem to have done it in jest (and I respect that), so instead, I'll nitpick elsewhere: Your blog header is way too fucking huge.

3. Considering that Pokemon started out as a video game and has become the 2nd bestselling video game franchise, yes.

4. To give Arkard some well deserved traffic. Since he was kind enough to post it on his site, it's the least I can do. I'm not sure why you're putting "editing" in "quotation marks," because I "already explained what the edits were on my previous post and that I would be posting the unedited version on the blog at some point in the future." So you can nitpick said "edits" when that day arises.

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Well, she's all you'd ever want, Zodiac Eclipse is the kind I like to flaunt and respond to her comments.

"Hey! See if I ever try to help you again."

Completely out of context to anyone else, but I understand exactly what you mean and, again, this isn't personal. If you weren't in this for the money and you just found something better to do, this shouldn't be a big deal.
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With 2 outs and a runner on first, batting .666, it's Naim Master.

"I'm sorry , but you can't write a article ..."

But I DID write and article! How else could you've commented on it?! Wait, let me ch-IT'S STILL THERE!? But then what are you...oh! I get it! You probably mean that I've written something that isn't worthy of being considered an article due to the poor quality/content of the work, is that it? My mistake.

Try spell-check next time, and remember that there's only a space after the comma, not before. If you think I'm being an asshole (or from your typing skills, "a asshole"), I'm not. It's called constructive criticism, which is what you give to someone when they do something incorrectly.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you don't like my non-article, explain why and offer some suggestions. And if you don't, at least use some fucking grammar. At least try. Christ almighty.

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Char Aznable used to read word up magazine. Salt'n'Pepa and Heavy D up in the limousine

"People were just turned off because it seemed like you wanted us to do all the leg work for your article"

That actually makes sense. For the pokemon one, I was simultaneously getting help on the Destructoid forums and the Comedy Workshop in the Cracked forums. Both sites do things differently. Still, if that was the case I would've thought that somebody would've posted "Fuck you, we're not doing all the work." That's not how I (or anyone from Cracked) works.

We already have a general outline of ideas in our head, and we've done our own bit of research. When we pitch our stuff, getting new ideas (or pokemon, in my case) wasn't as important as getting actual feedback, and not as in "this a good idea" or "meh;" I'm talking legitimate criticism.

Looking back, that may have been my main reason for posting that stuff in the first place. I came guessing some people in the forums had a better idea of pokemon than me, but that didn't mean I was looking for new pokemon. I was looking for someone to go "oh they did ____ with Jynx" or "well technically, _____ never _____ with ______" or something like that.

In short, the Cracked part of me is thinking "leg work?! I already did most of the work before I even came there!" But the rational part of my head is going "well, they didn't know. Besides: The pokemon article got rejected despite fucking hours of hard work, and I haven't even bothered to touch the box art pitch. I forgot what I'm so mad about."

At which point I look to the comments section and realize that nobody gave a shit about the actual finished Pokemon article (or at least, never bothered to give it any actual criticism).

"Goddamnit."



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sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 21:27
sickNasty
Why don't you just do your own research and write your own article?

That's generally how writers have done things since the beginning of time.
The Grudge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 21:30
The Grudge
So you need help with creating pokemon? Where am I?
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 21:33
akathatoneguy
Holy shit, "Cracked" still exists?

Also, I have no personal investment here, but I couldn't help but notice that you decided to do some grammar-related nit-picking. As such, here is a brief list of errors in your blog:

"and them skim through the comments section" Should be "then"
"There have been articles with more than writer" Needs the word "one" before "writer"
"But I DID write and article!" Should be "an", not "and"

There are also capitalization errors and some other issues, but I can't be bothered to list them all.

If you're going to shit on someone else's grammar, spelling, or typing errors, you had better make sure that your writing is on point.

Also, "Cracked" still exists?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 21:47
Tubatic
What is this noise?

I dunno, just seems like alot of ramp up and self important mini-drama for a pretty standard "These are enumerated funny things about things" article.

I mean that's really how I feel, having read your responses to luke warm response...

You know, its really a quite solid article, but dudes around here bang these jams out like its the alphabet. For you it was months of work and research. For them, it was Tuesday (or Monthly Musing entry)

I guess I'm being mean? But I dunno. But from my POV, you're coming off like an asshat.

Just seems like if you're really trying to do this humor thing, you've got to go with what you know, at least to start. I imagine a working comedy writer's got to tackle any subject, but it just seems like you're being a snit about the whole thing.

You remind me of Bob.
HydroTonix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 22:00
HydroTonix
Fuqk you and your drama.
NCHammer326's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 22:35
NCHammer326
As tempting as it is to respond to even more comments. I'll just leave it be.

Little things get to me. I was really irked by some of the comments in my last post, and I felt the need to set the record straight. Ah well.

Tubatic, I respect you and enjoy reading your stuff. Having said that, don't tell me how to do "this humor thing."
Joanna Mueller's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 23:02
Joanna Mueller
Yeah, it shouldn't be a big deal, why are you still going on about it? Sorry I wasn't as interested or invested in your idea as you were. I found an example for you, but since you didn't seem to be adding anything else I figured the thread was old news. It's considered poor form to call people out when they do you a favor just because you think they should've helped you more then they did.
NCHammer326's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 23:08
NCHammer326
Touche!
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 23:09
Tubatic
Fair enough.

Sincerest Good Luck.
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 01:07
smurfee mcgee
this is stupid
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 07:49
Char Aznable
For someone so keen on giving constructive criticism, you don't seem to take it very well.

Don't take it personal, dude. You asked why people stopped caring, and we gave our reasons. Hundreds of topics come and go on a daily basis around Dtoid, so don't be offended if your Pokemon suggestion thread gets left in the dust. It happens all the time, to everyone.

Mad Magazine is better anyway, forget Cracked.
BulletTrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 12:01
BulletTrain
Hey guy,

If you need to come to people for their information and expertise then you haven't done "all the leg work". You're still researching at that point.

As Tubatic said, people knock articles like this out before breakfast. You gotta step up your game if you want to get noticed. You're not a special snowflake and people aren't gonna love you just because you post something.
NCHammer326's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 14:12
NCHammer326
I feel the need to respond to the whole "people around here crank out these areticles like _____." That's fine and dandy if it's something for your blog, but Cracked articles have a set of standards that need to be met just to get to your article to "considered." Hence all the research.
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 18:10
akathatoneguy
Maybe things have changed, but I remember looking through "Cracked" as a kid and there didn't seem to be a very high standard for the content within. Maybe it's changed now that they're focusing on a web-based presence.
leforte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2011 06:09
leforte
Don't take it personal, dude. You ginecomastia asked why people stopped caring, and we gave our reasons. Hundreds of bumbum topics come and go on a daily basis around Dtoid, so don't be offended if your Pokemon lipoaspiração suggestion thread gets otoplastia left in the dust. It happens all the time, to everyone.
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