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A Muslim's take on the LBP Controversy
Mushman | 4:27 PM on 10.17.2008 42 comments


(WARNING: WALL-O-TEXT, if you can‘t be bothered reading, no worries, go play video games, they awesome, really freaking awesome)


Hi there guys, I wasn’t planning on writing a 'serious' blog today, rather I was preparing to become a regular EU FNF hoster after a very long absence and enjoy gaming with my fellow Dtoiders once again. However in light of recent events, and the subsequent confusion among the community, I thought why not do this wonderful site a service and, hopefully lessen the anger, hate and frustration my fellow gamers are feeling right now, probably towards Muslims.


Let's address the main issue, the lyrics, quite frankly, it's absurd. Yes, it's true that the Qur’an says that teachings and sayings from it can't be used in media, however, this only applies to the context/type of media it's used in. An example:

I'm a porn producer, I want to make a porno, but different. To separate myself from the pack, I decide to commission a song, consisting of teachings from the Qur’an , and decide to put it my ‘film‘ as a backing tune. It works, and I get a ton of money , a ton of publicity, but also even more hassle.

According to Islam, what I’ve done is wrong, why? Well because I’m using the teachings in a derogatory manner. Simply, using verses or teachings in immoral stuff like Porn, movies which can be classed as offensive or something like a ‘pop’ song is wrong. Now though I agree with the porno example, the dilemma facing me and other modern, moderate Muslims is, what exactly is an offensive movie, and what can be seen as a pop song? Sadly, there is not any definitive answers, that’s why you see so much unneeded hate in the Muslim world, where the loudest, brashest and most hateful group , in recent times, have become the most listened to and most popular. We, as a collective, are sheep, blindly following religious zealots, due to the failure of our so-called religious leaders in providing an up to date interpretation of the Qur’an. Next time you see your Muslim friend in a dilemma linked to what I said above, blame our crappy leaders, who even say video games are evil. The laughable bit? There is nothing in the Qur’an itself about games, in fact, according to it, we as Muslims should actively seek out experiences that enrich our lives and do not cross the boundaries Islam sets, gaming has enriched my life beyond reason, and I hope it has done the same for you.

The beautiful thing about gaming is that it has given me the chance to lead a thousand different lives, visit a thousand different worlds and learn a thousand different things, all within the boundaries of the religion I believe in. So don’t believe Muslims when they ‘hate’ on gaming, they are wrong. Gaming has made me a better person, a better Muslim, a better Dtoider.

Back to the issue of the song/lyrics , let me point you to in the direction of Sami Yusuf. This artist does use material from the Qur’an in his songs, however he uses them in a fashion that can be interpreted as showing Islam in a positive light. In this case the context he is using the Qur’an in is okay, as he is not slating it, nor can he be seen as exploiting it. In fact according to my sister, he has a very good understanding of modern Muslim life. But as usual in the ’wonderful’ Muslim community, a lot of people hate him for using music to put out a message they fail at delivering on a constant basis, Islam really is a religion of peace. In the LBP case, this should be the very same situation, as a Muslim, I cannot see where a game, that promotes teamwork, has an active system to filter out and if necessary, ban levels that can be deemed offensive, uses a visual style that SCREAMS child-friendly, cuteness and focuses on creativity can possibly use the Qur’an in a negative fashion. I even listened to the song, it doesn’t exploit the Qur’an.

I can see the situation where an idiot decides to purposefully create an ‘offensive’ level and uses the song to get a rise out of Muslims, but isn’t that what the reporting feature is for? If I stumbled across the level, instead of suing Sony and making an ass out of myself, I’d just use the reporting feature, or if needed e-mail Media Molecule, who I thank for making such an amazing game. Sony is to blame for this situation, I’m sorry but they are a multi-billion dollar company, they should have known better and cut the song out, or a better situation, edit the damn song, heck I could do that in a matter of hours on my laptop. The game has been through multiple testing stages, and this whole situation stinks of a ploy to get more publicity, nothing else.

If you want to say ’fuck Islam‘, please don’t, instead, say ’fuck religious leaders’, they are the ones failing religion, and more importantly, failing us.

I hope this blog has been helpful, Destructiod community, any further questions, put them in the boxes below.

Ciao, for now.


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blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:41
blehman
Nice perspective piece Mush.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:50
Mushman
@Blehamn

Thanks! :)
balth's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:55
balth
I agree with what you are saying completely, and have no ill will against Muslims over this at all.

What I have ill will against is the minority dictating policy to the majority. I also have problems with Sony's hypocracy catering towards one religious group and not another.

I thought it to be a very well-written piece and will add it to my post (hopefully that's ok).
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:09
Maurice Tan
So since Obama is a muslim, it means he is peaceful instead of a liberal hatemonger??????

I kid I kid, great read Mushman :)

As an agnostic who has like 5-6 books on Islam modernity's crisis (although I still have to read most of them hehe), I can only agree. A lot of people don't understand the complexities of what kind of situation Islam is in in contemporary times.
Imo, Sony could have learned from the Zack & Wiki debacle and they should have known better. Or MM if they were in charge of QA music/sound testing. On the one hand a small vocal minority shouldn't dictate what the majority doesn't agree with, on the other hand those behind the game could have just thought for a second and leave it out to avoid the whole thing altogether.
Person of Lordly Caliber's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:14
Person of Lordly Caliber
Stand up to your oppressors, the ones who limit you and confuse you and tell them it is time for change.
That is when you will get your support, from the world, not just from your friends.
You want your religion to grow? Make it so.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:17
TheDreadHawk
Very good read. Good to hear it from the right perspective.

Also, Person of Lordly Caliber is fucking weird.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:17
Takeshi
Indeed good read Mush.

I wonder what've happened if they used excerpts from 'Silent night' or something similar. Probably nothing.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:22
Mushman
@Balth

I honestly do not mind if if some DOES have a thing against muslims, it's thier right.

I too dislike the utter hypocracy, it's shameful.

and it's fine linking to my blog!! :D

@Prof. Pew

'On the one hand a small vocal minority shouldn't dictate what the majority doesn't agree with'

Agreed, completely, Muslims should really learn to intergrate themselves better in today's society, I did it, why can't other muslims?

Also, Obama is a Muslim?!?!?!?! :0



;)
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:23
aaronf
Hi Mushman,

Your post is very well thought out, but I have to disagree with you in that your ideas contain one major flaw.

Everyone has completely different ideas on what they find offensive. Particularly, when it comes to holy books written thousands of years ago by many different authors and containing many ambiguities and contradictions.

Now, the Qu'ran (or Bible) cannot explicitly condone or condemn movies or video games, simply because these things did not even exist in those times. What we have in modern times is everyone interpreting religious texts in any manner that fits their personal agenda. You like playing video games, so therefore you've shaped your belief about what the Qu'ran does and does not allow to permit that. Someone else will have a completely different interpretation which says that the Qu'ran cannot be quoted anywhere, ever.

The bottom line is this. I believe every human being has the right to believe in whatever they want. But your right to religion does not make your religion immune to criticism. Nor does freedom of religion trump freedom of speech.

In any case, I appreciate your well thought out response.

Take care,
Aaron
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:26
Usedtabe
I was awaiting your perspective on this issue. Great read.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:26
Tubatic
Thanks for the write up on this! very much appreciated!

"The game has been through multiple testing stages, and this whole situation stinks of a ploy to get more publicity, nothing else. "

I dunno about that so much. As a tester, I can tell you that things can easily be missed, whether by crunch time or just a slip up in the screening process (as Media Molecule asserts).

Also, I think in this case, the idea that this is just a publicity stunt seems unlikely. If this were Saints Row, Man Hunt or GTA, I 'd be more inclined to agree. But be cause of the very E for Everyone vibe of this game, its seems like a ridiculous purposeful way to call attention to your product.
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:41
SWE3tMadness
Takeshi, that song's so familiar already, people just associate it with the warm, fuzzy goodwill feelings of christmas, and not the actual religious references.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:44
Mushman
@USEDTABE

I actually wrote this after I read your comment, and got over my fear of 'serious' blogging. :)

@aaronf

Dammit, all of the things you said I was about to put in the post, I was just scared no one would read such a long blog!

But thanks for your very right point of view, which I really do agree with, and in the future, will include if ever this happens again. :)

@Tubatic

I have faith in MM vision, I just don't trust sony, the big evil, money hungry corporation. That's why I think it's a ploy, but you're probably right. :)
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:58
RonBurgandy2010
Mush, You're still my favorite Brit/Asian/Muslim!
SnakeDude4Life's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 18:03
SnakeDude4Life
Thank you for clearing this up.

Also, on a mini-rant; Fuck Extreme Fundamentalism,

That goes for all beliefs.
frozenbabylon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 18:05
frozenbabylon
Very insightful and a wonderful read. Thanks for this new perspective on the situation.
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 18:06
funran
Great prospective, thanks for giving us a perspective most of western culture doesn't normally hear! :D
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 18:10
Mushman
@RON

Thanks, and you do 'redefine adorable' ;)


Also, woah thanks for the comments guys/gals

I will defintely blog more now my fear has gone, much love. :) :D
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 18:26
mix
Nice post man good to hear various sides of issues!
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 19:49
Corak
Great take on it my man. I don't hate Muslims, I especially wouldn't over something like this. I only hate the completly insane ones that hurt innocent people, and they are in the minority.

I would have prefered a patch rather than a week long delay though.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 20:03
Aaron Mxy Yost
Every religion has crazy people in it. Sadly, instead of being ignored like they should be, they usually end up being pandered to. Good read.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 20:23
BS3 Owner
I look forward to moar intellectual posts from you Mush.

Linking Islam to gaming, BRILLIANT!
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 20:27
007
Wow, nice to see a fellow Muslim's view and take on this. Also helps that you actually know what you're saying.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 20:29
RonBurgandy2010
I underestimated the number of Muslims in our midst.


Not that it's a problem.

Are you a Brit/Asian/Muslim too 007?
Aziel13's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 20:33
Aziel13
I will do
Facemask's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 21:07
Facemask
The only right people have to hate is on them self and no oen else, even hate twords your self is unjustifed.

@Mushman: Keep up the great work although the manstream world seem not to care,just remember their's always some one out there. Eccept for space where no one can hear you scream!P.S. Where's Waldo?
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 21:21
Brian Szabelski
Excellent to hear your opinion on this, Mushman.

I do have a related question, though. Do you recall the situation with the original Fire Temple theme in Ocarina of Time? What's your thoughts on that?
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 21:44
faultymoose
The only problem *I* have with whole thing is this community is evidently brimming with bigots and ignorant, uneducated fools. I wonder how many people were stamping their feet and screaming "CENSORSHIP KILLS MY BABIES" when Uwe Boll's "Postal" was only shown in 13 U.S. cinemas due to the opening scene?

I'm not happy about the delay, or the reasons behind it. And if you are, or if you aren't, it's your opinion, run with it. But when your opinion includes spewing vitriole about religion, or the people that follow it, or better yet making dumb assumptions like muslim == middle east OMG TERRORISTS BOMB THEM then, imho, you can go DIAF.

Fucking idiots.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 21:59
TheCleaningGuy
Fantastic blog.
I admit, I was more than a bit annoyed when I saw that the game was delayed over such a small issue. Hopefully religious leaders will learn to chill out a bit.
ArchArbiter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 23:51
ArchArbiter
Very nice. Though I'm still PISSED >:O about LBP being delayed an entire week, this does put a lot into perspective. I don't hate any religion, but if I did, it'd be those DAMNED MORMONS. How dare they stay out of the media and not garner a bad reputation and such.
yourfriendawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/18/2008 02:51
yourfriendawk
@ Mushman:
Great write up. but i really have to wonder... how much were you really offended by this?

I am not a religious person, but i do believe that everyone has the right to believe in what they want. And therefore i don't think it is right for anyone to disrespect other people's beliefs, but was this really necessary? Was it really something that would greatly offend all Muslims who played this game?
CALkulon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/18/2008 07:11
CALkulon
Interesting read, glad you have a sensible approach to things.

I still want my game though! Needless pandering, a patch would have been enough for those offended by it. To be honest I can't see many people who would be offended by this sort of thing actually playing the game...
D-Nez's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/18/2008 11:51
D-Nez
@ balth

Yeah you're abolutely right, but its not just Sony. Why is it that as a society we are hyper-sensitive to one group and apthetetic towards another? I understand repecting each other but I think political correctness(?) over-reacting is making a parody of itself.

"What I have ill will against is the minority dictating policy to the majority. I also have problems with Sony's hypocracy catering towards one religious group and not another"
benjaxez's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/19/2008 11:42
benjaxez
Thank you so much, Jazakullah khair.
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Clint
How did I miss this first time around >.< Excellent post Mushman!
Billy Monks's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2008 01:26
Billy Monks
Great blog entry: I'm always overjoyed to see Muslims with sense speaking out.
MagicAQ's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2008 14:50
MagicAQ
As another muslim on here.... sweet post.

As for Sony delaying this... i really think its just them covering all bases. With the situation today i guess they just feel they cant be careful enough. They didnt scrap the game and they didnt change anything other than edit out the song (i am guessing), the product will not change, and it may keep some weirdo fanatic from pointing a finger.

again man , way to speak up.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2008 15:56
Qraze
nice write-up. i got to agree with you.i just wish these devs were more considering of other religons as it seems all of em except islam are cannon fodder to toy with.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2008 20:05
Mushman
Woah, a lot of comments here since last time I checked, much love!! :)
Debeo Laurus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2008 19:47
Debeo Laurus
Dang, no pictures :(
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Hello friends,this is a nice site and I wanted to post a note to let you know, good job! Thanks
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