That's a fantastic list, but man, you need to proofread your stuff. I had to do a double take several times throughout.
Mm, I'll play you in Project Justice sometime. That'll be a treat.
Mm, I'll play you in Project Justice sometime. That'll be a treat.
I definitely need to check out a few DC fighting games that I passed over, especially Project Justice and Garou.
I've played Grandia 2, but thaat's the only one on that list. And I've heard very good things about the Rival Schools series.
Man, MDK2 was brilliant. It was the first DC game I still have, and really, one of the only I still consistently play.
Grandia 2 is awesome although I only played the ps2 port. I still screw around with chao adventure to this day. I have no idea who created the dialogue for that but it's really weird. Well back to looking for my chao "thing".
Yeah, I played Dino Crisis on the PS1.
Didn't play the rest of these though. Didn't even buy a Dreamcast at the time and I am not about to pretend that I love the Dreamcast. Never took part in it in any way. I don't think I will ever really get it... the whole Dreamcast fascination... but ah well. I was happy with my PS2.
Didn't play the rest of these though. Didn't even buy a Dreamcast at the time and I am not about to pretend that I love the Dreamcast. Never took part in it in any way. I don't think I will ever really get it... the whole Dreamcast fascination... but ah well. I was happy with my PS2.
@Steel Squirrel
There's nothing to get, it has plenty of top-quality titles unlike anything out there at the time, most of which still hold up today. Surely you can understand that, right?
There's nothing to get, it has plenty of top-quality titles unlike anything out there at the time, most of which still hold up today. Surely you can understand that, right?
Under your circumstances (not having played many RPGs before) Grandia 2 is a good game to play - it's a great title to get people into the genre. Once you've been around the block a few times, though, it falls a bit flat.
Also, when you assert that in Mars Matrix you need to buy extra lives to get through it - not if you do it right.
Also, when you assert that in Mars Matrix you need to buy extra lives to get through it - not if you do it right.
Sure I can. I played a few DC games at my brother's house... Soul Calibur, Crazy Taxi, Shenmue, Power Stone... but I mean, I dunno. Whatever. I just think it has become one of those consoles that people talk about and they are just doing it for the sake of looking cool. I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but it just seems that way to me most of the time. Like... if you don't like the Dreamcast, you are NOT a gamer. Anyway, if you did buy one when they came out and had a sincere attachment to it, good. I am glad. If you jumped on the bandwagon after you heard it was what all cool game collectors and trendy dudes do and have your mandatory copies of whatever games Topher Cantler likes, then that's just weird.
@Steel Squirrel: Yeah, I can definitely understand where you're coming from. The Dreamcast has tons of praise heaped on it nowadays. I love mine, but the console does receive a lot of (sometimes unwarranted) fawning. It was not without its faults (see controller), but it does have a pretty good selection of fun and quirky games. If you don't like it though, it's definitely not a black mark against you.
@Article: Good list! The only one I haven't played is Chao Adventure since I never bothered to put new batteries in my VMUs.
@Article: Good list! The only one I haven't played is Chao Adventure since I never bothered to put new batteries in my VMUs.
Was there ever a Fighting Vipers game on Dreamcast, either in Japan or over here? That's the one where the dude fights with a skateboard and the armor shatters, right?
Haven't played a single one of these except MDK2, and that I played on the PC. That brought back some fond memories of MDK2, and I think I'll look for my disc later to give it another playthrough.
@Krow: I actually normally proof read the absolute shit out of my articles, but in this case I was trying to push the article out the door because I wouldn't have time to finish it for a while after this. Normally I read my entire articles over about 10 times.
@Char: I do believe there was. Japan-only, though.
@BulletMagnet: I understand that the Grandia series isn't perfect, but Grandia II in particular I think is still a really fun game that I can just sit and play. It's very much so a good starter-game, but I like to think that those sorts of games don't need to be abandoned after you've moved on to more hardcore endeavors. I still play all my damn Kirby games to death, same as I did when I was 7 years old.
Also, not everyone is some kind of unstoppable shmup machine kind sir. Just like not everyone is a fighting game guru. It's actually a brilliant design concept for the single player, though. I shall train you for Fatal Destructoid 98, wait and see. We'll see how competent we can make you yet.
@Char: I do believe there was. Japan-only, though.
@BulletMagnet: I understand that the Grandia series isn't perfect, but Grandia II in particular I think is still a really fun game that I can just sit and play. It's very much so a good starter-game, but I like to think that those sorts of games don't need to be abandoned after you've moved on to more hardcore endeavors. I still play all my damn Kirby games to death, same as I did when I was 7 years old.
Also, not everyone is some kind of unstoppable shmup machine kind sir. Just like not everyone is a fighting game guru. It's actually a brilliant design concept for the single player, though. I shall train you for Fatal Destructoid 98, wait and see. We'll see how competent we can make you yet.
@TheCleaningGuy: That whole receiving unwarranted fawning was somewhat the point of my "Where the hell were you?" mini-rant. I know the Dreamcast like the back of my hand. As someone with experience I'll call it a good system, but you don't see me calling it some kind of incredible gaming God machine.
I wouldn't say that the DS pseudo-sequel to Bangai-O 'doesn't hold a candle' to the DC original. Rather I'd say that they are both quite different games; the original was much more skill based and arcadey, with only 2 weapons and the super attack. But the DS version is still skill based, but some levels (which are smaller and more arena-ish) boil down to trial-and-error about picking the right weapon layout. All the levels are beatable with any weapon layout, but some are practically impossible, but if you pick the right weapon combinations, some levels will be much easier. Plus all the new stuff, like the 8 way boost, melee weapons, shield, and combo projectiles add another element. They're both awesome games though, I just wanted to say that the DS sequel is really good as well and isn't exactly like the DC one. Anyways, nice list, I've never played most of these, but I sure want to!
@Krow: Thar, sir. I'm editing the article as I speak. More satisfactory? Also how would you intend to play me in Project Justice?
@grafkhun: I've gone ahead and addressed my feelings more specifically about Bangai-O as I edited the article. Hopefully this makes my gripe with the DS version a bit more clear. I still thought it was a fun game, just one that shouldn't have really been on the DS.
@grafkhun: I've gone ahead and addressed my feelings more specifically about Bangai-O as I edited the article. Hopefully this makes my gripe with the DS version a bit more clear. I still thought it was a fun game, just one that shouldn't have really been on the DS.
@Wry Guy: That's part of the reason I liked this article so much! It was definitely made with love, but even-handedness as well. It felt more like "I love my Dreamcast because I grew up with it, and here's what I played", rather than OMG I GOT A DREAMCAST ITS GREAT HERES ALL MY COOL BURNED GAMES. I've got a feeling if I did a top ten PS2 blog, it would be in the same vein as this.
Also, the Grandia 2 and MDK2 nods, those helped too.
Also, the Grandia 2 and MDK2 nods, those helped too.
Actually I had an English version of Fighting Vipers 2 I'm pretty sure. It was so bizzare even in my language!
Looked it up and you're right. Fighting Vipers 2 had a European release. On that note.
@Zoel: No imports on my list, sir. This is about my personal Dreamcast experience growing up with the machine as mentioned by Cleaning Guy.
@Zoel: No imports on my list, sir. This is about my personal Dreamcast experience growing up with the machine as mentioned by Cleaning Guy.
That was a walk down memory lane. I played all of those except Bangai-O, Mars Matrix, and Project Justice... If Demos count. The dreamcast was my first major purchase when I got my first job jockeying a soft-serve machine at the local Dairy Queen for the summer, and while I didn't buy a lot of the games you listed, I remember playing demos of a lot of them on the Official Dreamcast Magazine discs I subscribed to. Over the years I've lost a lot of the titles through moving and junk, I still have D2, RE:CV, Tokyo Xtreme Racer, and Evil Dead: Hail to the King, Certainly nothing to boast about. Great article, thanks for the memories.
Like Vitamin said. If you had/have a dreamcast there isn't a reason you shouldn't have played these.
This is more of a list of 2nd tier titles, games that while not everyone had, most people did. I could go thru the list of DC games most people haven't played but should have, but its pretty big.
WHO HASN'T PLAYED HYDRO THUNDER?!?!?!?!?
This is more of a list of 2nd tier titles, games that while not everyone had, most people did. I could go thru the list of DC games most people haven't played but should have, but its pretty big.
WHO HASN'T PLAYED HYDRO THUNDER?!?!?!?!?
I have bad memories of Dino Crisis. The idea was there, but the execution was just dull. Like you said, a lot of the features from this game were used for Resident Evil 2 up to Code Veronica, so it wasn't all bad.
I don't know why, but other than T-Rex set-pieces, I just found the game to be bogged down with long-winded puzzles and laborious back-tracking (a hangover from early-survival horror). Of course, Capcom went the complete opposite for Dino Crisis 2 and I still didn't like it!
I guess I'm just a fussy git.
I don't know why, but other than T-Rex set-pieces, I just found the game to be bogged down with long-winded puzzles and laborious back-tracking (a hangover from early-survival horror). Of course, Capcom went the complete opposite for Dino Crisis 2 and I still didn't like it!
I guess I'm just a fussy git.
You know what? I always thought the DC had three major RPG's:
Phantasy Star
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Out of those three, I maybe beat grandia 3 or 4 times before I lost my DC to old age. As for PSO...that game is infinite, and I still play it.
The DC is the greatest console of all time. Hands Down.
Phantasy Star
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Out of those three, I maybe beat grandia 3 or 4 times before I lost my DC to old age. As for PSO...that game is infinite, and I still play it.
The DC is the greatest console of all time. Hands Down.
To clarify to everyone that keeps saying "Everyone's played these games," keep in mind the joke is that most people didn't have a Dreamcast, or that the people who came later only played the big games like Jet Grind Radio. Only the top half of the list is stuff that a good number people actually haven't played for whatever reason. Never had batteries for your VMU, never had a keyboard, obscure companies like SNK and Treasure. Those sort of reasons. I'm well aware a lot of this list is actually really common. What wasn't common were Dreamcast owners.
Most people seriously don't even know what a Dreamcast is when I mentioned the name unless they're generally knowledgeable about games.
@manasteel88: Sir, you're mad. Certifiably insane. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Most people seriously don't even know what a Dreamcast is when I mentioned the name unless they're generally knowledgeable about games.
@manasteel88: Sir, you're mad. Certifiably insane. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Great blog... though I'm still trying not to laugh at that last one! "Typing of the Dead"... OMG, what a concept!
Ah, I see what you mean. I do agree with you on that account, the DS was definitely not capable of handling everything that was going on in the game. In fact, the game doesn't even show all of the missiles you shoot, rather they just became invisible math rockets in the background, they still do their job of exploding in enemies' faces, but you just don't see it. Also, the slowdown in the DC version does feel more intimate and special, since it doesn't happen as often. Well said, sir... now to go find a DC keyboard and a copy of Typing of the Dead.
All bar Bangai-O and Mars Matrix. Not downloaded either, got a huge pack with my Dreamcast. Typing of the Dead is possibly the best game to use the keyboard as a special input device ever.
I'd play Garou and Project Justice if I could FIND A COPY. I pretty much bought my Dreamcast to play those, Power Stone, Grandia 2, and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, but Grandia is the only one I've actually found. Damn rare DC games.

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