A couple of side-notes:
Maken X also shares something in common with Persona 2 as they were both games that were censored in America to remove any references to nazis. The game was also remade with a third person perspective for the Playstation 2 and was called Maken Shao, but it was only released in Japan and Europe. An absurdly gorey comic / manga adapation was also made, but good luck getting your hands on it. It's great to see Kazuma Kaneko's designs showcased in a comic, but said comic frequently shows those characters exploding in huge fountains of blood.
Maken X also shares something in common with Persona 2 as they were both games that were censored in America to remove any references to nazis. The game was also remade with a third person perspective for the Playstation 2 and was called Maken Shao, but it was only released in Japan and Europe. An absurdly gorey comic / manga adapation was also made, but good luck getting your hands on it. It's great to see Kazuma Kaneko's designs showcased in a comic, but said comic frequently shows those characters exploding in huge fountains of blood.
Always good to see you taking on something unusual - looking forward to the next one.
As for this game in particular, as much of a Nocturne fan as I am I doubt I'd be quite so fond of Maken X, especially since I have very limited tastes when it comes to first-person games (though this one's certainly a departure from most). Any rough ideas as to how rare/expensive this thing is these days? If I see it cheap I might have to give it a little taste...
As for this game in particular, as much of a Nocturne fan as I am I doubt I'd be quite so fond of Maken X, especially since I have very limited tastes when it comes to first-person games (though this one's certainly a departure from most). Any rough ideas as to how rare/expensive this thing is these days? If I see it cheap I might have to give it a little taste...
@BulletMagnet: Few people even know about this game. The Dreamcast isn't really Atlus central in most peoples' eyes. To my knowledge they didn't publish anything for it and the only other Dreamcast game they made was something called deSPIRIA.
It's dirt cheap. I got mine in great condition off eBay for 3 dollars.
It's dirt cheap. I got mine in great condition off eBay for 3 dollars.
I was initially jarred because it's a first person shooter on DC, but after described the controls I let out a sigh of relief. Games that use the face buttons as a second analog are massive fail, especially Slave Zero.
@Zarwid: It's first person but not really a shooter. The only ranged attacks you get are that some characters have long range specials. Example would be the assassin in the video who shoots knives out of his tongue, or one of the Blademaster characters who has this crazy mechanical spinning hand thing that can fire tornadoes that throw enemies around.
The character designs border anywhere from cool to weird to ridiculous (see the picture of the butterfly mobster enemy.)
The character designs border anywhere from cool to weird to ridiculous (see the picture of the butterfly mobster enemy.)
I've heard of Maken X and seen some screens, but I've never really noticed it.
Also, I think you hit it on the nose by describing it as a complex arcade game. The dreamcast can be considered as one of the greats not because it was fresh, but because it emulated the arcade experience that Sony and Nintendo had always struggled with.
All that being said, it's still a weird game. It's kinda sad that an Atlus game doesn't have a strong narrative. If anything, Atlus has always had a strong narrative. Well maybe not Rockin' Cats.
Also, I think you hit it on the nose by describing it as a complex arcade game. The dreamcast can be considered as one of the greats not because it was fresh, but because it emulated the arcade experience that Sony and Nintendo had always struggled with.
All that being said, it's still a weird game. It's kinda sad that an Atlus game doesn't have a strong narrative. If anything, Atlus has always had a strong narrative. Well maybe not Rockin' Cats.
@manasteel88: The Dreamcast had a number of innovative games that came from Sega, but yeah, the heart of the system was good old fashioned fun. Crazy Taxi, Marvel vs Capcom, Hydro Thunder, Sonic Adventure and Power Stone actually dominated my Dreamcast when I was younger and the system had just come out.
A lot of those were launch games too. I was a happy camper with my DC as a kid.
@Wedge: Maken Shao is something I want to hunt down one of these days too. From everything I've seen I think I actually prefer the first person style, but the things they add to the PS2 version sound promising. Apparently you rank up all the characters individually and gain access to new moves. Sounds cool.
@Handy: Like I said, if nothing else I'd probably call this Japan's answer to oldschool FPS. I always vaguely felt like I was playing a game of the original Quake during Maken X, except with swords and crazy Kazuma Kaneko character designs.
A lot of those were launch games too. I was a happy camper with my DC as a kid.
@Wedge: Maken Shao is something I want to hunt down one of these days too. From everything I've seen I think I actually prefer the first person style, but the things they add to the PS2 version sound promising. Apparently you rank up all the characters individually and gain access to new moves. Sounds cool.
@Handy: Like I said, if nothing else I'd probably call this Japan's answer to oldschool FPS. I always vaguely felt like I was playing a game of the original Quake during Maken X, except with swords and crazy Kazuma Kaneko character designs.
I really want to play this again, but the used copy I picked up a few weeks back won't play. I'll probably have to resort to buying another copy.
Nazis used to be censored, and now we have Operation Darkness with a nice anime picture of Hitler on the back.
Oh, how the times have changed.
Oh, how the times have changed.
I picked up a used copy of Maken Shao a while back and been meaning to play it for a while now. Only reason i got it was cos i recognised the cover work and figured it was Atlus made. Glad to hear it sounds awesome, thou hoping the third person perspective makes it slightly easier to control.
@Wedge: Why you so salty, son?
@RenegadePanda: My copy was pretty fidgety at first. I had to give it a good wiping down before it would run properly. Clean yours up and maybe it'll work.
@pedrovay2003: I think it's just that games like Operation Darkness are so obscure that nobody's even afraid that it'll stir controversy. I didn't even realize that there was a picture of Hitler on the back.
@jjenigma: Maken Shao's a more complex game and probably doesn't quite qualify as having that arcade vibe anymore, but from what I've heard it is indeed easier to play.
@RenegadePanda: My copy was pretty fidgety at first. I had to give it a good wiping down before it would run properly. Clean yours up and maybe it'll work.
@pedrovay2003: I think it's just that games like Operation Darkness are so obscure that nobody's even afraid that it'll stir controversy. I didn't even realize that there was a picture of Hitler on the back.
@jjenigma: Maken Shao's a more complex game and probably doesn't quite qualify as having that arcade vibe anymore, but from what I've heard it is indeed easier to play.
I still have my copy of Maken X somewhere around here. I never finished it, but I'm glad to own it. I really respect how many risks it takes.
I'd love to see a Wii PS Move port that fixes the semi-busted control scheme.
I'd love to see a Wii PS Move port that fixes the semi-busted control scheme.
Maken X looks like my kinda game. Good thing Maken Shao is out over here. Got to track that down, if possible.
Btw, what is that thing at the bottom of the screen when in first-person view...is that a tail or a....heaven help me, a slong? O_o
Btw, what is that thing at the bottom of the screen when in first-person view...is that a tail or a....heaven help me, a slong? O_o
@Jonathan Holmes: The controls don't really bother me anymore, but this game definitely would have benefited from coming out later on a dual analog console.
@Batthink: That's the assassin character from the beginning of the game. In this playthrough the guy skipped stealing the body of the pilot and kept using him for a large portion of the game. What you're seeing is his tongue which can spit out knives from the tip. There's also a number of characters that aren't gross like that, such as the Blademasters which all have different types of technological swords and spears.
@Batthink: That's the assassin character from the beginning of the game. In this playthrough the guy skipped stealing the body of the pilot and kept using him for a large portion of the game. What you're seeing is his tongue which can spit out knives from the tip. There's also a number of characters that aren't gross like that, such as the Blademasters which all have different types of technological swords and spears.
Fun fact: this game might actually motion-sickness the internal organs out of you. (If you're me)
[I still want to go back and beat it though]
[I still want to go back and beat it though]

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