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Nintendo comes out swinging, misses.
Lexicographer | 9:31 PM on 10.05.2008 14 comments


Yes the pun is awful. A fall press conference was ground zero for Nintendo's big announcements this last week. The promise of a slew of new games, new peripherals and a new DS has swayed quite a few people, but I for one am not so impressed.

First off, let's look at the DSi. What's really new about it? It has a camera and an SD memory card slot. Great on the surface but it's also lost the GBA card slot. The reasoning is that it allows the system a more aesthetic look and more space for other things. That's fine. They tout that you'll be able to download various applications priced from 2 to 10 dollars. I imagine some older GBA games will be made available through the service as well.

Trouble is, I have trouble really caring about it. I've never looked at my DS and thought, gee, I'd sure like to have a camera here. The removal of the GBA slot aggravates me a touch. The backwards compatibility was a big selling point for me. Frankly, it seems they've opted to pack on the features rather than fix the systems existing problems. I've yet to here anything about a streamlined interface.

This seems to be Nintendo's answer to everything these days. They make enough money off of their product that they've decided to ignore many long time supporters. Instead of giving the Wii a Hard drive, they give it more peripherals. It will soon have voice chat, but you'd better hope you can hear your friends over the game you're both playing since you won't have a headset.

Wait, you may be saying, they are giving us Punch-out Wii, isn't that something? Well, no it isn't. Punch-out was a great game back in the day, but ask yourself; After all the outcry, all the bad press, all your begging, this is all you get? A revamped version of an original Nintendo Console game? Don't even try to tell me they won't find a way to work the balance board into it. Their core gamers got them to this point, and now that they have all the money they'll ever need, they throw you scraps every once in a while. Punch-out is too little too late.

As for the remakes, I don't think anyone is fooled by that move. Again, with record profits and growing sway over the casual market, the best they can come up with are a bunch of wiimote enabled Gamecube titles. I'm not buying it.

Nintendo is in a unique position. Their console has gotten a lot of people into games that wouldn't have played them before. The console has a great deal of potential to widen the scope of gaming on a global scale. They have the revenue to put serious work behind their projects, make amazing games and show the world what games can do and mean for people. Instead they've taken the businessman's route and abandoned substance for profit. And here I thought we all wanted the same thing.



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CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 21:53
CelicaCrazed
I'm excited for the DSi. Smaller, lighter, brighter, downloadable games, cameras, built in Opera, audio playback...the only problem for me is the battery power. I just use my Micro for GBA gaming.

Yeah, Nintendo isn't focusing solely on traditional gamers. Most of us have come to grips with this fact already. Come join us.
Lexicographer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 22:03
Lexicographer
My point is this. Nintendo is squandering their potential with piles of shovelware and peripherals. The wii has the potential to be home to some innovative games and really push the medium forward. Nintendo ought to challenge themselves a bit. Really give the world something great.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 22:31
CelicaCrazed
Yeah I understand what you mean and it does suck. Nintendo is essentially tarnishing their brand name by letting developers use the Wii as a dumping ground. But as long as they're still making money hand-over-fist, there's no incentive to stop. There's also no one pushing them to innovate further at the moment. Until MS and Sony really start to creep in on their "new-found" market, don't expect major changes.

You also have to remember that Nintendo has put out a lot of AAA titles in their first 2 years. We haven't really experienced any major droughts like during the GameCube days either. The good games will come. Besides Wii Sports Resort, we haven't seen any game that uses MotionPlus, a device that we expected the Wii to be from the start.

Nintendo will do things their way. You can't have expectations when following them unless you want to feel near-constant disappointment. Then when they do unveil something worth your attention, you can feel surprised ^_^
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 22:35
pedrovay2003
@Celica

I actually don't recall Nintendo even once advertising that the Wii would have full 1:1 motion recognition from the beginning, so the Wii Motion Plus is indeed something new.

As for the shovelware, I personally think this conference took care of all my fears. I see good things coming in Nintendo's future, and in ours.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 22:49
CelicaCrazed
@ Pedrovay

No they never said they were doing 1:1 ratio once. It's what most people assumed though when they first unveiled the Wiimote, or near 1-to-1. There was just more limitations then we were expecting.
jestarinc's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 23:01
jestarinc
Yeah, Nintendo has had this huge opportunity to really shake up game design, but they had to shoot themselves in the foot like always.

At least this time they profited from their blunder.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 23:02
Jonathan Holmes
The Conduit? Sin and Punishment 2? Cave Story on WiiWare? Do these things mean nothing to you?

As for Punch-Out Wii, I'll be pissed if it doesn't have Balance Board support. That and motion controls would be the only point of making a new Punch-Out.

I guess you haven't played Wii Fit. If you had, you'd know the Balance Board has huge potential for making one of the most satisfying in boxing games ever. It allows for you to step into punches, dodge in any direction, and even duck, ass completely intuitively. That combined with a non-one to one, simplified motion controlled combat control scheme will be amazing.

The mistake Nintendo made with Wii Sports boxing is they thought we cared about one to one controls for a boxing game, and they thought they could pull them off. Well we don't, and they can't. Just make it so when I punch up with my right hand, Little Mac does his standard right jab, and when I punch low with my left hand, Little Mac does a body blow, and make it all totally responsive.

That's as close to one to one as I'm ever going to need.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/05/2008 23:14
TheDreadHawk
I'm excited for the DSi. It's finally making me buy a new portable. I still run with my Game Boy Color, yo. That's all I got to say...
JoeCamNet's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 01:39
JoeCamNet
The way I see it, Nintendo is doing things quicker than they once were. Before you would see one or two big Nintendo games a year with NOTHING in between. Now you're seeing 3-4 big Nintendo games a year and a ton of shovelware, some good, some shit in between from third parties.
Third party support might be garbage games, but at least it's there. And for every Wii Poniez 3 and Hannah Montana, you can find stuff like Williams Pinball Collection, Blast Works and Furu Furu Park. Not to mention the really good third party games like de Blob, Resident Evil: UC, No More Heroes and Okami among many others.
Nintendo is branching out, but that just means they're releasing MORE games. For core and expanded.
As for the DS interface, how much more steamlined do you want? Start it up and choose DS game, GBA game or download. It's as basic as it gets and very easy. for the DSi, they have a new menu system on it since it's pretty necessary. If you want a GBA slot, keep the DS Lite since it'll still be around. or buy a GBA since they're like $50 new now.

Nintendo will never be the same. Ever. But they're doing what they can to cover all bases and while it's not the best job, they're doing pretty good.

Now where is our REAL storage solution?
GIVE US A HARD DRIVE.
Lexicographer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 04:56
Lexicographer
I'm glad I could promote such an awesome conversation with this. Thanks all for your comments
Pikman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 05:26
Pikman
Well... I think the DSi IS a waste, I mean, they shouldent have released the DS Lite, ITS EXACTLY THE SAME THING! Well, apart from the fact that it's lighter, better looking and that you can play it outside. They should have spent longer on the DS and fixed the problems. I for one want a NEW hand held system, not the DS! Sure, double screen is great, but c'mon, couldentthey remodel the shape a little and give a graphics update, and then give it a new name? That would be enough. Damn Nintendo, I'll always buy YOUR games but... please give a little more...
Lexicographer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 05:34
Lexicographer
I shouldn't haave to turn off the DS every time I change a setting, swap out a cartridge or search the wifi from the

What I'd really like to see from Nintendo, since they're in such a great position financially is to really push some new ideas forward, really take some design risks.

I have played wii fit and I understand that the balance board is an impressive peripheral. What bothers me is the idea of having to spend at least another 90 dollars just to play a game in it's complete form. There are too many peripherals.

I say Nintendo should focus less on new peripheral support and really work on what they've got already. Instead of dumping millions into development of new pieces of equipment, start exploring deeper into what is possible with their existing controllers.

Yes, there have been some interesting third party titles released for the wii. I'm not denying that, I just think it's the responsibility of Nintendo, given their position, to step up to the plate and show their growing audience what we've known for years. Games are incredible works of art and can create deeply meaningful experiences for the people that play them.
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 06:51
bloodylip
Just because there is shovelware on wii, it doesn't mean that Nintendo is squandering its potential. Look at the PS2's library of hundreds of games. How many were actually worth playing? Less than a hundred? Did all that shovelware cheapen the experience of the good games?
perri's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2008 13:06
perri
Yikes, a lot of bias no?

You chose to ignore some of the most significant Nintendo announcements made since the Wii launch. A swing and a miss? Only thing that describes is this blog post.

I think if this was about e3, appropriate title. This conference though was quite satisfying.

I can't believe you aren't happy with Punch-Out! I agree with Jonathon 110% All the games I've read about have indicated that there is a lot to be excited about!

I'm not sure what you expected? Nintendo to ship you money?

Also, Bloodylip makes the best point.
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