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And the gamers who play them: Survival Horror
Kryptinite | 2:41 PM on 03.31.2008 29 comments


Maybe this coincides with the fact that I hate horror movies, but I cannot play through survival horror games. I've played the demo of Condemned, Fear for the PS3, Code Veronica, Fatal Frame, and even Resident Evil 4; I've beaten a total of 0 of these games.

With all the attempts to play a game in this genre, comes the inevitable truth that lies beneath: fear is not a gameplay mechanic that works for me. Always being low on ammo, using 2x4's that will eventually break, and the random dog that jumps through a window to eat your face is not my idea of fun. Although I'm surely not alone in this realization, there are at least an estimated 5.93 million people who bought the different flavors of RE4 who would tell me to stop being a punk and grow some. I've tried, really I've tried. I remember the day I picked up Resident Evil 4 for the Gamecube; January 12th, 2005 when it was released. It was my birthday and I decided that I was going to give this "fear for fun" thing another go. So I went to my nearest Best Buy, picked up the LE of the game, and quickly went home to play it. "I'm going to beat this game no matter what!"


Oh it's all fun and games until you poop yourself from fear.

"Wow", were my initial reactions because the game looked stunning. Surely I'll be able to make it though this one right? Of course not. I made it as far as the first boss before I came to the realization that I would not be able to finish it. The game was way too stressful and the anxiety of wondering what was going to run around the next corner was too much for me to handle. I play games to escape from the stressful task of my day and playing this type of game wasn't taking me to my place of zen.


Yes, I will kindly....

I did, however, enjoy Bioshock.

In my opinion, Bioshock is very much a survival horror game but a unique one. Rather than implementing fear by giving you low ammo and breakable objects, the game uses the surroundings in which you explorer to provide the suspense. One part that really freaked me was when you picked up the shotgun for the first time. I don't want to spoil it just in case you haven't played it yet but that part made me jump out of my chair. One main reason I enjoyed my time with the game is the story. There were enough twists in the game for me to want to see how it ended, even if this meant I would have a mini heart attack while getting there. I love when a game can engage me with its story so much so that I want to see what happens and continue playing it no matter what. The inclusion of super human powers and the ability to upgrade your weapons also gave me the sense of security when those "spoke" moments happened.


creepy little kids are scary


So, what drives gamers to play a game in this genre? Do they enjoy being scared or frightened but rather do it in the world of a videogame? Do they secretly want to be the savior of humanity or at least feel that way? Or is it just the fact that they get to blow zombies' heads off that gets their motor going? I honestly have no clue on what drives the fans of survival horror games. It drives me crazy to think that some people actually put themselves in these type of situations and actually enjoy it. As much as I want to play Condemned 2, I know I couldn't make it through the first level and I'm okay with that.



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Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 14:49
Sadie G
Bioshock is definitely not a survival horror game.
-D-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 14:51
-D-
Fatal Frame will completely ruin your life on a dark and lonely night.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 14:53
MrSadistic
I played all of the games in the Resident Evil series just for the zombies. Except for part 3, which I played because Nemesis is fucking awesome.

Anyway, with other survival horror games I enjoy the story and the disturbing content it offers. A prime example of this is the Silent Hill franchise. Basically, I play some survival horror games to be freaked out.

Also, I don't get why people classify Bioshock as "survival horror" or horror in general. It had its moments, but I don't think it was pure horror in a sense.
Butmac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 14:57
Butmac
Very very interesting.

I think that RE4 is maybe one of the best games ever, so it's interesting to see your viewpoint on this, as I've never really thought much about it. I too cannot stand horror movie but for whatever reason (to a degree) horror games don't cripple me with fear. Now, RE2 made me throw my controller completely inadvertently one time - but I just too it and kept playing not because I thought the game was just trying to scare me - but more because it is what it is I guess.

It's got all the mechanics that make a great game (RE4) and while I don't think the horror aspect of it makes it any better because it scares you - it does do a good job in creating a very real atmosphere and maybe that is what is scary.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 14:57
Kryptinite
@sadie and mr. sadistic

It's not 100% survival horror but it does contain elements to support that fact.

Yeah it's not pure horror but there was some to be had. I guess if you had to put it in its place, it would be a shooter.

Also, fuck Silent Hill. I had no idea what it was when I first played it and needless to say I stopped playing it.
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:01
Sadie G
I'm sorry, but horror is as much a passion of mine as gaming and I just hate how people lump so much into it that really isn't horror.

It had parts that people may deem "scary" but definitely not horror. In fact I can only think of one part and that's where your chasing the doctor and he's in his lab. Other than that, it wasn't really horrifying or scary.

Also, why can't you play them and why don't you like horror movies?

I will say Silent Hill scared the shit out of me.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:06
king3vbo
I love horror games
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:07
Kryptinite
@sadie G

No need to apologize, stand up for your passion.

To tell you the truth..I have no idea why I can't play them. Gore isn't an issue for me and I've watched and own all of the Saw movies. Yeah they suck ass but I really like seeing what crazy machines they come up with next.

But shit like The Ring just freak me out to the point where I don't sleep right for 3 days. All my friends call me everything in the book but I don't give a shit. I don't do scary things and that's that. Now I sound like a whinny 3 year old.
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:09
Sadie G
Yea especially since the Ring wasn't that scary ;)
well different strokes for different folks!
's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:14
Clint
You posted this at the last possible moment ;)
The only games to really scare me were Silent Hill, Eternal Darkness and Earthbound.

Games like Resi (Which I love) I was unfazed by except for a few moments which didn't actually scare (I define being afraid as feeling insecure and unsettled) just shocked me.

The Silent Hill games are really cerebral and psychological and really terrified me at times.

Eternal Darkness is the most terrifying game I have ever played (and it was on a kiddy console :P)It messes with you outside of the game and pretends to delete all the data on your memory card and starts pretending to adjust the settings on your TV. When it first started messing with my volume I was on the floor clutching my cat in terror at what had just happened. To this day I can't play the game alone.

The last battle of Earthbound is so disturbing. I'm writing a post about all the unsettling aspects of it. Hopefully it should be done by today.
Nessie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:15
Nessie
I know someone who is exactly like you; would love to defeat horror games but just cant get through the anxiety of them. So no, you are not alone~ :)
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:17
aborto thefetus
I fucking love survival horror. I have no fucking idea why but I do. And I don't consider Bioshock survival horror, I wasn't scared at all while playing that.

What confuses me even more about my love of this genre is that I hate horror movies. I'm sorry people but horror movies are shit. Complete shit.The last good horror movie to come out was John Carpenter's The Thing and that was like 20 years ago.

Fuck the Saw movies.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:19
aborto thefetus
Also Silent Hill didn't scare me, at all. Maybe the second one is amazing but 3 and 4 are awful.
Cloud09's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:31
Cloud09
I love horror movies and survival horror games. I don't know why but I love to be scared. I also love shooting zombies, so the RE series is one of my favorites.

I guess they aren't for everyone, but I don't know if you're giving them much of a chance. For example, RE4 really isn't that hard, and you get more ammo than you might think. Just keep upgrading weapons and don't have too many. I stick with just the handgun, shotgun and sniper rifle, and maybe the magnum. You don't need every weapon in the game. You have to use strategy too to conserve ammo.

I've never owned a Silent Hill game but I'm sure I'd like them. I need to get my hands on some of these games some day.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:32
Snaileb
Condemned 2 was the last game that made me poop myself.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:33
Kryptinite
I plan on going pack to RE4, I for some reason bought it for the Wii. One day I'll get through it...one day :(.
Nincompoopery's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:35
Nincompoopery
You know I would say that the elements in Bioshock that lend themselves to fear would be better off labeled as suspense driven drama and not respectfully fear at all.

I lurve me sum good whores!

Ahem, I mean I really enjoy the horror genre of the entertainment industry, whether it's books, movies, audio stimulation or games. My favorite would have had to been the first time I played Fatal Frame. Lights off, late night, earphones on and scares galore. I think I like the heart pumping adrenaline the most.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:35
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Resident Evil 4 was the first survival horror game I ever played when it came out on PS2 (I didn't own a GameCube, sue me). I never liked the idea of survival horror games for the exact same reason you didn't like RE4. I was skeptical to say the least.

I heard good things by that point and one of the things that really swayed my decision was because I had heard it was the most action-intensive of the RE titles to date. Although I was scared at first, I eventually felt so empowered by the guns and admittedly ample ammunition that most of my fears dissipated completely. I played through that game like an action game and loved every second. The only real scary part was the part where the exploding monster mutant things are introduced that you hafta use thermal vision for the weak points... yeah, those things scared me, but everything else wasn't too bad.

As for BioShock, I agree it was creepy, but definitely not what I would call survival horror. In the beginning I was scared as hell to play (even walking down the tower steps scared me) 'cause I thought it would be scary. I was actually let down by how overpowered you became in that game, pretty much eliminating all fear I initially had.

I hated F.E.A.R. I rented it on 360 and thought it sucked. Didn't even get through half the game. Wasn't scared once, either.

Nice write up.
DirtyDiva's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:36
DirtyDiva
Horror movies and survival horror games are two of my favorite things. The only problem with that being that it now takes A LOT to scare me. I mean sure, in real life, you whisper boo and I'll probably leave a nice steaming pile for you to clean up. But really, I love wandering around in the dark with my 2x4. Yes, I know it will break but then I'll get to pick up a bowling ball and smash some zombie's head into a wall. Yeah baby!

Can't wait for RE on the 360. It'll be my first time playing any from the series but I've heard such great things.
Cloud09's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 15:39
Cloud09
@Kryptinite

Good, RE4 totally rules. To me, the farther you get the less scary the game kinda is too. The chainsaw dudes really aren't as scary after you've dealt with them a few times.

@aborto

Oh man The Thing is awesome. I loved that movie and it is totally freaky. It's hard to believe it was made in 1982. Oh and yeah the original one definitely isn't as good.

@Snaileb

Did you really like Condemned 2? I was thinking of getting it, but I've heard a lot of mixed stuff about it.
Big Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 16:14
Big Z
I like survival horror games, but I am a huge pussy. I play them with the volume turned way down, the lights on, and as far away from the TV as I can get. I played through the first level of Clocktower on the PS2 sweating bullets. Parts of Resi 4 had me jumping, but I wouldn't call that abject terror. Bioshock only had two parts that scared me: the place with all the bees (I had to pause and leave the room periodically, bees fucking scare the shit out of me) and some of the areas near Sander Cohen. Easter egg: try hitting some of those statues with your wrench.

I think I like survival horror games because it becomes a competition between myself, the game, and my mind. Who will buckle first? Can I beat the game without soiling my underwear? When I was a little kid I played the first Resident Evil game at a friend's house and pissed myself when the dogs jumped through the window. NEVER AGAIIIIIIIIIN
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 16:18
Kryptinite
@big Z

I think I like survival horror games because it becomes a competition between myself, the game, and my mind. Who will buckle first?

Yes. That is what I want to achieve but it never happens. Hell, I've been contemplating for the last hour if I should download the Condemned 2 demo and see if I could conquer that. I mean it's a demo, it' can't be that fucking scary right? RIGHT??
Def JM's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 16:23
Def JM
I like tha anxiety, the feel of pressure and the fact, in the case of RE4 that I can shoot the asshats in the head. But neither movies or games scare me, I've watched and played alot of the horror genre. After awhile you just start to laugh at most of it, even though with the right editing and cuts I still get the occasionaly jump.
Teen Idol's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 16:40
Teen Idol
I LIVE for horror! Games and movies! But I can honestly say I've actually only jumped out of my seat probably 3-4 times throughout ALL the survival horror games I've played. And I've played lots of them! The only reason these games scare the shit out of most is cause us gamers like to play our games at volume 11 instead of 10 :D which should be a must. But if you wanna enjoy one of these games without getting scared, put it at a low/average volume. It won't be as intense, and won't scare you when those pesky "Tar-Men" in Condemned 2 appear and beat the back of your head. Seriously, I know people who have this same problem and use this solution. :D

Games that made me leap into the air were ILLBLEED for the Dreamcast (split-second, up-in your face scare-master, of a game!), Condemned 2 (again, "Tar-men"), Silent Hill 2, and the first Resident Evil. Other than those, not many others come to mind as REALLY scaring me.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 16:43
Gameboi
Loves me some survival horror. The Resident Evils, the Silent Hills, the Fatal Frames, etc..

Good stuff.
youkilledmyguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 17:37
youkilledmyguy
I played some of Resident Evil, some of Silent Hill, some of Fatal Frame... yet I never finished them. I enjoyed them while I played but after so many hours I just no longer enjoyed the experience, yet I still say I'm a fan of the genre.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 18:02
Wexx
In all honesty, RE4 isn't THAT scary/Hard. I know friends of mine that play it that hate the older Resident Evil games and Silent Hill, and they love RE4. It's weird, I guess it's because it's more action oriented and twitch based than the other games of that ilk.
Good luck in your quest to conquer the 'super scary games'.
shmelo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2008 20:15
shmelo
I can't say as I like survival horror games, but I love Resident Evil. I'm one of those gamers who appreciates good quality, and the Resident Evil series is just one of the top notch technical and all round fantastical game franchises out there. I just love the detailed gore and shooting in 4, the way Leon reloads the rifle is just so bad ass...
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2008 20:23
ZombiePlatypus
I'm late to the party, but I clicked a link from your current blog and am seeing this for the first time, so here's my two cents...

...I love horror flicks, they don't scare me in the least, haven't in years. I can and do watch horror DVDs in the dark and have a blast, it's all good. But when I play survival horror games I get freaked the Hell out. I can't explain it, I just do. They're obviously just games, nothing real about 'em. Still, the atmosphere/sense of dread the developers are going for usually gets right to me, no matter how video-gamey the execution it seems. From Eternal Darkness to Doom 3 to Resident Evil, these games just mess with me. Doom 3 people! The monster closets of Doom 1 & 2, didn't phase me. Throw in some dark shadows to that formula and I'm a chump I guess, eh?

I still come back to them though. They're never my favorite games ever or anything, but I dig 'em enough to keep trying not to be such a puss...
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