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yeah thats basically the difference between an expansion and just DLC, although it has blurred through time ;(
great blog
great blog
yeah, the Titan pack was indeed awesome!! I also loved that mods could be downloaded from the internet and used in the game (big head mod is still my fav!)
For multiplayer games I rarely bother with map packs anymore... there is almost always someone in the group I game with that doesn't have the maps anyway. I love that Starhawk will offer FREE map packs - this is how it should be done (and Warhawk's DLC maps were more like expansions rather than just new maps, the added vehicles could be played on both the old and new maps and they totally changed the way the game was played).
I too prefer to purchase true expansion packs rather than DLC. So much of the DLC is just garbage... but a true expansion pack is pretty cool.
For multiplayer games I rarely bother with map packs anymore... there is almost always someone in the group I game with that doesn't have the maps anyway. I love that Starhawk will offer FREE map packs - this is how it should be done (and Warhawk's DLC maps were more like expansions rather than just new maps, the added vehicles could be played on both the old and new maps and they totally changed the way the game was played).
I too prefer to purchase true expansion packs rather than DLC. So much of the DLC is just garbage... but a true expansion pack is pretty cool.
UT3 on ps3 FTW! DLC now days is mostly fluff and garbage. You make some great points and I heartily agree. Last dlc I bought was the SR3 season pass and the MK9 season pass. I didn'tthink Saints would do me so dirty bit they did. I quite enjoyed the MK9 characters and skins though.
Great, at least you stick to your morals. I'm glad you got the guts to stick by your decision.
As for me, since most of my games are story based, I only buy DLC if it directly relates to the story. Extra weapons and skins? Piss off, give me a half-assed story DLC anyday.
As for me, since most of my games are story based, I only buy DLC if it directly relates to the story. Extra weapons and skins? Piss off, give me a half-assed story DLC anyday.
The one good thing about Call Of Duty is you really don't have to buy a single piece of DLC to still play those games....even years from now. I do agree that pricing has gotten ridiculous, where few companies try and reduce the prices of DLC, Infact doing the exact opposite.
Hell The whole game has changed. You talk about how great Epic was but look how they treated their customers this gen with Gears 3. People bought their highly priced Season Pass only to be told later that the first pack would be free. So what did I pay for? A few character/gun skins? The ability to play the maps privately before everyone else? Whoopie. Then again those maps were on the disc.
Hell The whole game has changed. You talk about how great Epic was but look how they treated their customers this gen with Gears 3. People bought their highly priced Season Pass only to be told later that the first pack would be free. So what did I pay for? A few character/gun skins? The ability to play the maps privately before everyone else? Whoopie. Then again those maps were on the disc.
@Long john
Yeah, I do understand that, but most DLC is getting to be $15 and $20 now and it's not containing the same amount of content that previous expansions did. Hell, it doesn't include the same amount of stuff as Frozen Synapse's expansion and that is $10.
But again, judging the quality of something based on length is indeed tricky, so that is not my only argument. Your point is very valid.
@Elsa
Yeah, and UT3 on PS3 supports Mouse and Keyboard. It's pretty much the full thing, aside from not outputting in true 1080p. Still, Epic did really good by that port.
@PhillK3nS3bb3n
Don't get me started on Saints Row. My friend and I were huge fans of the series and eagerly bought 3, but couldn't believe at how gimped the story mode was and how shoddy the ending turned out. We didn't bother with any of the DLC and that was clearly a good move as I've not heard a single good thing about them.
MK9, though, I already knew about DLC. While that didn't really turn me off from a fighter, I did want to wait and get the ultimate experience if possible. My waiting turned out to be the right decision, too.
@PK493
I bought the expansion to the Prince of Persia reboot and have been kicking myself ever since. That was such a fucking waste of $10. Thankfully I never bought the game, but I still disliked how shitty Ubisoft did (and continues to do) with that piece of content.
@garethxxgod
You are right. I can still jump on MW2 and play for hours, but it's just that the pricing structure is ridiculous. Even COD4 was insane for charging $10 for 4 maps. Just give me them for free (like the PC version) and I'd gladly stick with your game forever.
Epic is ludicrous for charging for that Gears stuff, too. That whole series relies solely on it's DLC and I couldn't hate it more for it. Why include the 56 maps like you did in UT2004 when you can ship a game with 8 and then sell another 20?
Yeah, I do understand that, but most DLC is getting to be $15 and $20 now and it's not containing the same amount of content that previous expansions did. Hell, it doesn't include the same amount of stuff as Frozen Synapse's expansion and that is $10.
But again, judging the quality of something based on length is indeed tricky, so that is not my only argument. Your point is very valid.
@Elsa
Yeah, and UT3 on PS3 supports Mouse and Keyboard. It's pretty much the full thing, aside from not outputting in true 1080p. Still, Epic did really good by that port.
@PhillK3nS3bb3n
Don't get me started on Saints Row. My friend and I were huge fans of the series and eagerly bought 3, but couldn't believe at how gimped the story mode was and how shoddy the ending turned out. We didn't bother with any of the DLC and that was clearly a good move as I've not heard a single good thing about them.
MK9, though, I already knew about DLC. While that didn't really turn me off from a fighter, I did want to wait and get the ultimate experience if possible. My waiting turned out to be the right decision, too.
@PK493
I bought the expansion to the Prince of Persia reboot and have been kicking myself ever since. That was such a fucking waste of $10. Thankfully I never bought the game, but I still disliked how shitty Ubisoft did (and continues to do) with that piece of content.
@garethxxgod
You are right. I can still jump on MW2 and play for hours, but it's just that the pricing structure is ridiculous. Even COD4 was insane for charging $10 for 4 maps. Just give me them for free (like the PC version) and I'd gladly stick with your game forever.
Epic is ludicrous for charging for that Gears stuff, too. That whole series relies solely on it's DLC and I couldn't hate it more for it. Why include the 56 maps like you did in UT2004 when you can ship a game with 8 and then sell another 20?
I completely agree that the amount of crappy business practices has exponentially grown. I know there are always those who are quick to remind that "businesses have to make a profit, what do you expect?". Though I just remember the times when companies did not NEED to depend so heavily on extra content. They could sell you the full game and that was that. Profit was made, fun was had. Thanks to inflated budgets and business scheming, we are left with games that, regardless of their actual delivery to provide you with content, are quick to charge you for even more content. There is nothing inherently wrong with this, but it becomes readily apparent that there is no shortage of cash grabbing.
Companies are quick to remind that they have to shovel out DLC fast because most of the DLC that is purchased is purchased within the first few weeks after release. Hence my personal peeve, day one DLC, and my dread, on disc DLC. To me this is short sided on the part of the companies who push these moves. Full-fledged expansions are often completely overlooked nowadays by the big guys. However, they fail to realize that by getting in the habit of releasing crappy trickles of DLC only trains customers to play and trade-back. By releasing full-fledged expansions, they can delay people who trade back games, undermine used game sells, and profit from expansion sells. This only works with games that have reasonable budgets mind you. Which is why indie games can capitalize on it. Better yet, with digital releases, and thus, no trading back. They can hold on content for full-fledged expansions without fear that folks having moved on.
Anyway, that was a longggg disjointed ramble. I apologize to anyone who read that mess above haha.
Companies are quick to remind that they have to shovel out DLC fast because most of the DLC that is purchased is purchased within the first few weeks after release. Hence my personal peeve, day one DLC, and my dread, on disc DLC. To me this is short sided on the part of the companies who push these moves. Full-fledged expansions are often completely overlooked nowadays by the big guys. However, they fail to realize that by getting in the habit of releasing crappy trickles of DLC only trains customers to play and trade-back. By releasing full-fledged expansions, they can delay people who trade back games, undermine used game sells, and profit from expansion sells. This only works with games that have reasonable budgets mind you. Which is why indie games can capitalize on it. Better yet, with digital releases, and thus, no trading back. They can hold on content for full-fledged expansions without fear that folks having moved on.
Anyway, that was a longggg disjointed ramble. I apologize to anyone who read that mess above haha.
