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Shopping for a 360 arcade stick, need your input.
Tyler Jones | 5:04 PM on 09.30.2009 30 comments


I like my 360. I'm a big retro gamer, and a while ago I bought a special controller to facilitate the playing of classic games as well as the then-newly released Street Fighter IV. I got the MadCatz SFIV fighter pad and for the most part had few complaints. The buttons were a nice size and felt very responsive. The d-pad was not great, but still far better than using a standard 360 controller. It didn't bother me for a while that the dead zone in the middle of the d-pad was kinda huge and the diagonals were a little too hard to hit.

However, times have changed and I now demand a much greater deal of accuracy. My interests have veered towards much more hardcore playing of shmups (DEAR GOD Ikaruga has taken over my psyche), fighters, and other classic games so I'm ready to invest in a quality arcade stick and could use a little input from you guys.


My first option is the Hori Fighting Stick EX2. I like the simple look of this, and the prices I find fall between $50 and $60. This is my most appealing option, though the smallish size and lack of a fourth column of buttons are a minor stumbling block. Most of the simple games that I'd use a stick like this for wouldn't require more than 6 buttons, but in SFIV I really like to have two buttons mapped to PPP and KKK. This isn't too huge a point now as I don't actually own SFIV (I rented it when it came out), but I may very well get Super SFIV in the future.

Sadly, other sticks with extra buttons seem to come with a significantly increased price tag.

This MadCatz stick is $80 and has some pretty bad reviews, mostly complaining of a defective stick. The only silver lining on this would be that all reports say it's quite easy to modify. I can't say I know anything about modding a stick or where to get replacement parts, and modding may turn out to be a fun project, I'd really rather just get a controller that works out of the box.

Hori's Real Arcade Pro EX is around $130 also has the extra buttons I crave, but reviews are iffy in regards to their quality. Once again modding is recommended and once again I'm not sure if I want to go that far.

The next step up is the Tournament Edition Fightstick, costing around $150. I'd feel pretty comfortable writing this off as too expensive unless it's honestly the best choice out there. Reviews are quite good, but is $150 really necessary for a quality stick?


I'd really like to hear what the rest of the Dtoiders have to say on the subject. What is your experience with these? What are your recommendations?



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RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 19:23
RAB
I tell you man, the TE is definately worth it. My 2 best friends both have the Hori ex2's and they HATE them. One of their joysticks is suuuper mushy for no apparent reason and a button on the other guys stick is sticky too. But to mod those sticks you actually needs soldering skills.

Dont have much exp with the bigger black hori's, but I know the SE madcats stick has garbage parts that you'll want to end up switching out for sanwa parts, which my other buddy had to do, which in the end comes out to about as much as the TE costs.

In the end I definately have the suggest the TE. The size doesn't bother me at all, and I know that if anything ever happened and I had to change a button or anything, I know the entire button setup inside uses quick disconnects and no soldering at all.
Hell, take it a step further and wait for the new TE: Round 2. Same thing but a bit more spiffy looking in my opinion. Plus, you can swap out the art and customize the shit to look however you want and it's super fuckin easy.
anyway here's that new TE. I say wait for that one.

http://www.destructoid.com/mad-catz-to-unleash-more-street-fighter-iv-controllers-149515.phtml
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 19:24
RAB
I like the stark black as opposed to how the original one has white sides
Tyler Jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 19:39
Tyler Jones
Thanks for the warning about the EX2, I was leaning the most strongly towards that before your comment. Is the round two different from the Femme Fatale version, or is it just the same with different art? Cause it's kinda hot.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 20:00
Danmartigan
Any variation of the Madcatz TE stick is going to be awesome. Like RAB said, really easy to customize... you just open up the top panel with a torx screwdriver and swap stuff out, rewire buttons, etc. I added a plexi top with 6 button layout to mine, bat top, new buttons, etc.

Looks like it is 129.99 on amazon right now.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 20:30
RAB
pretty sure all the TE's are the exact same other than aesthetics. they just have different art.


seems like a major difference is the colors of the sides n stuff. original TE has black middle, white sides.

Round2 te has black middle and black sides

femme fatalle has white middle and white sides. only, this one has a purple border around the art, as upposed to red like the other 2. but that comes off anyway so yeah.

in the end its just about the aesthetic details. If I had the money to buy a second te it'd be the round 2.

also danmartigan give this guy a fap! otherwise this post doesn't show on the front page cblogs :O
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 22:08
TheCleaningGuy
HRAP EX SE. All seimitsu, about $150.
That is, if you want a Seimitsu alternative to the TE. I personally swear by HRAPs.
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 22:24
njsykora
I have a Hori EX2 and really don't have a problem with it. It's gotten one hell of a beating from my SF4 and Ikaruga play and still clicks nice and satisfyingly. I also have PS3 and Wii Hori sticks. Swear by them really.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 22:31
CountingConflict
I'd go with the TE honestly. I have an EX2 and it just feels cheap. The buttons are way too loud too.
mourning orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 22:38
mourning orange
Get the TE stick.

Do it for the love of god.
It already has the best hardware you can get, and it's extremely easy to mod if you really want to screw with perfection.

RAB already said everything that really needs to be said here, but one more voice can't hurt.
Tyler Jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 23:02
Tyler Jones
Hooray, my first article has been fapped!

It's looking like the TE gets the popular vote, so I think I'll try to get one in the near future.
Fogo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 23:24
Fogo
Just get the TE if you got the money if you don't got the money get the SE.
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2009 23:46
Cataract
I'm tired, but I'll try and write something coherent for you.

My first stick was a Hori EX2. It isn't the best stick out there, but I worked mine into the ground. It now has a bit more dead space than I'd like, and one of the buttons can get unresponsive. All in all, I'm glad that I had it. Some people really do prefer sticks over anything else, but some don't. It took me a while to really get into the habit and style of using a stick and I'm glad that I didn't end up paying for one to realize that I didn't like it (A few very generous Dtoiders gave it to me as part of my annual Secret Santa). If you do end up buying a stick and not liking it, you'd have only spent a minor amount of money in comparison to how much more you'd spend on a TE stick.

That being said, I now play with a TE stick, and I only have a few gripes with it. I'd like the cherry top to be a bit farther away from the base, as I have large hands. The body is a bit bigger than I'd like as well, and makes it hard to play with it on my desk, and I usually have to rest the giant in my lap. As far as quality of the parts go, they really are top notch.

Although I've never owned one, I did play a lot on a friends Hori Real Arcade Pro. They're huge, but they're also well made and a bit slanted, which I love. putting it on a table and playing works perfectly with these from my experiences, and the parts are also great. The pattern of the buttons on this is a bit more comfortable than the TE, due to the 4th button column being a bit lower than the TE's button pattern, but this can also make it easier to hit accidentally.

Well, i'm exhausted. I'm going to get to sleep, but by all means send me an email at necronauts@gmail.com I'd love to help you out and talk to you about what exactly you're looking for in a stick, and hopefully find a place here you can get one on the cheap.
TrickyNicky's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 08:44
TrickyNicky
TE is where its at. I have an EX2 as well and it started falling apart pretty quickly. The TE is $119.99 today at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874104069
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 10:19
casualweaponry
I have the Hori Real Arcade EX, and it's really good. My only beef is that the buttons aren't Sanwa. They're simple to replace though. It was an impulse buy for me; the game shop right down the block from my house let me have it for $130 even, so I jumped on it.

Having said that, I would go with the Madcatz TE stick. The Round two version. It's ready to go out of the box because they use real arcade parts. It also had rapid fire, for the shmups. Sure it's $150 + shipping (slightly cheaper at Amazon, and maybe free shipping) but it will be the last stick you every need.
Tyler Jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 12:50
Tyler Jones
Thanks so much for the advice, I'll definitely go for the TE stick now.

My only complaint would be that all these sticks are the short ball-top variety. I haven't used that kind enough to make a judgement, but I know I prefer this kind:
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 12:53
Danmartigan
The only possible negative I can think of with the TE stick, is that it gets annoyingly loud if you try to put a Seimitsu LS-32-01 stick in it. So if you're heavy into shmups you may want to check out that Seimitsu version of the HRAP. But the JLF is very nice in the TE.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 12:56
Danmartigan
Bat tops can be added to japanese sticks using an adapter. Go to this page:
http://www.lizardlick.com/pages/joysticks.shtml

And scroll down to the "LB-30-N"

Both my brother and I swear by these things because we grew up on the Happ sticks too.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 13:05
RAB
one last piece of advice, should you decide to go for the TE, give the ball top a chance! I used to 100% preffer the american style bat tops and I was dead set on swapping the stick out once i got my TE, but the ball top has absolutely grown on me. It feels much more responsive and is easier to hold for longer periods of time. Give it a chance, like a couple weeks. if you decide it isn't for you then go ahead and order that bat top, but for me the TE taught me that balltops are definately the way to go.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 14:31
Danmartigan
* unless you have big man hands instead of little girly ones
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 16:41
RAB
it's less gay to hold a ball then hold a dick.

just sayin
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 16:58
Danmartigan
that's not actually a comeback at all. they both sound gay.

i'm just gonna take my stick out entirely hit the switches with my finger.
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 17:32
de BLOO
Lets preted this ball is one Boobie.

WHAT THEN?!!
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 18:19
RAB
how bout i use my stick and hit your girlfriends switches :D
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