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Yay? Yahtzee hits Valkyria Chronicles
Josh Tolentino | 11:03 PM on 05.13.2009 26 comments


It's old news to you by now, but The Escapists's own handsome-British-born-celebrity-game-reviewer-of-the-intertubes-who-isn't-Jim-Sterling, Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw took my favorite current-gen SEGA game to task. How will I defend my beloved pile of code against the foul predations of a writer/videomaker with a sense of humor?! My answer below the embed:



I won't.

Dun-dun-DUUUUHN!

Sure, I and my fellow fanboys have promoted the hell out the game, and I'd like to think that it's our fanning that slow burn that helped bring Valkyria Chronicles to his attention in the first place.

Also, it's bad form to "review" someone else's review. Instead, I'm going to use it as a segue into my own complaints about the game, and why in spite of them I think it's still one of the best things to happen since thumbs.

In fact, I share many of Yahtzee's misgivings about the game, mechanically speaking. Most of its biggest issues stem from the imperfect meld between real-time excitement and turn-based precision. To date nearly all the games that have attempted this most difficult of fusions have suffered to some extent or another, the lack of ability to deliver as much on both fronts as a dedicated game of either genre, from Fallout 3 to Star Wars: Empire at War. It might seem like an unfair thing to expect, but if you try big, you sure as hell can fail big.

If you're reading this you already know most of what I'm talking about. The cumbersome (if cute) book mode interface, the odd cover rules, the inexact aiming, and of course the grading system's anathema philosophy, it tends to encourage a quicksave-quickload behavior that detracts from the game over all. It's quite the good thing that the story is engaging and the looks gorgeous.

All things considered though, I do believe the reasons for my wholehearted promotion of the game are sound. In my estimation it manages that naturally awkward straddle quite well, and looks great doing it.

It doesn't make pigs fly, but it does give them wings:



Also, Christ in heaven, don't even try reading the comment thread. On any ZP post, for that matter. I should have f*cking known better. :



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Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:21
Naim Master
I didn't actually read it yet , but I want to steal the first post and tackle a very serious issue : Valkirya Chronicles

Unanggy , don't you think that there's a time that you simply must let hold of somenthing you really love , for the greater good of both of you?There's a line between liking and stalking , and when you stalk somenthing so un-stalkable as a videgoame , somenthing's wrong ...
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:29
Naim Master
Now that I actually read it , good thing you didn't review Yahtzee's review , Nanbu says Sterling is the worst biased British troll that doesn't play the games he review , but Yahtzee actually fir that description way better ...
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:44
Tubatic
Yeah, he goes on about clever observations about game mechanics and settings, and ends up saying "You know I kinda liked it".

meh on that guy
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:48
TewDee
@Naim - That's because Nanbu is a fucktard.

Anyway, I disagree with him and am sure he's going to be hurt over that...
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:52
Black Nexus
yatzee doesn't like anything does he.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:54
Naim Master
@twdee
What? About Sterling sucking? Yeah , I also like Jim's writings ...

Oh , and Unnagy(I'll call you like that cause your name is too long and complicated , kay?) , we're taking your blog and turning it into a Yahtzee and Sterling quality discussion , hope you don't mind ...
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:56
TewDee
@Black - His likes in his video reviews are far and few between. People do like it more when he hates then likes in them, that's for sure. I do wish he'd highlight a few more likes, especially since it's a "dead zone" in game releases right now.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2009 23:56
Naim Master
@black nexus
Yeah , you can only laugh at "OMG , HE HAS A BRITISH ACCENT AND DOES RANTS AND TALKS REALLY FAST , OMG!" so many times until you know it's a stupid and low humour ...
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:10
Projectexodus
I got the game in the mail this week, and I played it for the first time yesterday. So it was a strange coincidence that his review would appear today, since I always wondered why he hasn't done it sooner (him enjoying ripping apart anything that is extraordinarily Japanese and all).

I was kind of sceptical of wether or not I should watch the review before I completed the game, as it might make me focus on a bunch of details I otherwise wouldn't have been bothered with. But it turned out that every little thing that he mentioned in the review, was stuff that I've already complained about myself, despite only reaching chapter 4. So it was all cool. Maybe Yahtzee himself only played the first couple of chapters before ragequiting?

When it comes to my own personal view of the game; I love it, even despite it's obvious (but forgivable) flaws. Heck, I'll even forgive the cheesy dialouge, androgynous characters and all that. It's Japanese after all, it's just how they roll.

BUT I CAN'T FORGIVE THE GODAWFUL VOICE ACTING! JESUS!!!
Person of Lordly Caliber's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:20
Person of Lordly Caliber
I'm siding with Unangbangkay on this. Never give up your love for a game.

Eventually, it will return the favor and release a sequel everyone will care about. Or be owned by Square-Enix and have no hope.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:21
Kyousuke Nanbu
The difference between Yahtzee and Sterling is that Yahtzee is a comedy critic, he's meant to look for flaws and spin them with a bit of humor.

Sterling is a terrible writer with a high ranking position on a very good site and for the most part we're meant to take him seriously, any other site would have fired him ages ago. I assume he's very good friends with Niero hence why he still festers on here like a cancerous tumor that won't die.

There's plenty of evidence that supports my dislike of him not just from me but from other writers that used to work here and much his comment history, you would also be amazed at how many people would jump ship to Destructoid if Jim wasn't here anymore.

@Tewdee

Hahahahaha, you're so cute, it fills me with joy you think of me in such way, that I'm so important in your life that you comment on me and what you think of me, you must lead one sad lonely life.

And hey, you fired off the first salvo when I offered to play Gears with you, not my problem you're a judgmental child, its the internet, don't take it so seriously.

Why don't you go play unwind with Gears 2? Maybe someone will revive you this time.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:33
Josh Tolentino
@Projectexodus

Japanese option is your friend. Personally I think the EN voice delivery on the principal characters' side is quite solid, and the writing is great. Some naming issues aside, it really captures the feel of the dialog.
Chocobo Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:40
Chocobo Knight
Ehh. I found it pretty amusing in some parts. :)
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:43
Dyson
Not sure how relevant this guys still is, although I do find him interesting and funny. I do think that VC was an amazing game and despite whatever flaws it may have (I thought it was almost perfect, btw), it really should be on your must buy list for PS3 games.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 00:59
Josh Tolentino
@naim "we're taking your blog and turning it into a Yahtzee and Sterling quality discussion"

I was hoping it wouldn't turn into that. I didn't write this post to bash Yahtzee. In fact I think he has some good points, and while the game definitely has its flaws I think it manages what it aimed to do, and better than anyone before it, hence my vociferous promotion of it.

Yahtzee himself noted that he was treading unknown territory when he stepped into the land of JRPG tropes, and if nothing else I'm quite happy that he was able to gain something positive from the experience, namely an increased interest in turn-based strategy games, a cause I support with gusto.

Strangely enough, the outcome of the review is in fact rather favorable. If you consider the glass half full, he liked the game despite its imperfect attempts to mix oil and water (TBS + RTS) and the fact that it was full of stuff he had already decided not to like.

What I find amazing is that some people still treat his reviews as an authoritative product recommendation. Sure, it's technically a review, but his job is to splash the entire thing in his wit and personality, a job he accomplishes quite well.
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 01:19
TewDee
@Nanbu - You never would have came to my mind unless you were mentioned. And if you think me thinking your an idiot makes me lead a sad life, then you hold yourself very high. You've also done nothing to prove me wrong in my opinion of you. And I'd much rather play Killzone 2.


Sorry for crapping it up on your blog unangbangkay. :(
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 01:35
Chris Carter
I think I'm alone when I say, I wuv Nanbu and Sterling. Both. At the same time.
Conan-san's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 02:16
Conan-san
I saw [the review] in my RSS feed and went "yes, this is going to cause something".
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 02:21
njsykora
Giant death tank in the desert can go fuck itself.

Here's a problem I've picked out with Yahtzee's review though. He starts off yelling at JRPGs for constantly adhering to the tropes of the genre (androgynous teenagers etc) yet bitches about enemies firing at you when it's not their turn. Surely that's bitching about it not adhering to a trope of the TBS genre?
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 02:25
Aurain
Hahaha...

Yahtzee is on form!
Unentertaining, Un-understandable, Hasn't played the game. And uses Punctuation when he speaks...

In all honesty, I don't mind people bashing games I like. But I expect them to know what they're talking about.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 04:27
Chris Carter
I don't know about you guys, but I assume that Yahtzee hasn't played any of the games he reviews for more than an hour or so, just to get a gist of what types of jokes he wants to tell.

Does anyone look at these videos for anything more than quick entertainment? The fact that he "ignores" JRPGs and specializes in certain game-types shows he's not a very well-rounded "real" reviewer.
Cloud-1409's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 06:47
Cloud-1409
I agree Mag. If anyone actually takes his reviews seriously I pity them, I'd never let one of his rants sway me in my decision to either buy or not but a game. They aren't reviews as such, more like witty rants. He plays a game to LOOK for the bad aspects of it so he can ridicule it in his videos.
Rucksack's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 09:35
Rucksack
I like Yahtzee, he makes me giggle.

I'm sorry but I can't contribute anything other than that, because I don't have a Playstation. This might change at some point though, and I'll probably pick this game up.
Mr Gilder's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 11:22
Mr Gilder
I can only watch Yahtzee's videos for games I already know that I don't like. Otherwise I get all butthurt and want to cry. Unangbangkay, your ability to sit through a Yahtzee video for a game you actually like is a testament to your love of VC.
On a related note, I still feel like a king whenever I watch the ZP vid for Mass Effect . . . the game everyone but me liked.
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/15/2009 07:38
themizarkshow
I've owned the game for months and still haven't played it. Forcing myself into JRPGs takes a while and it eats up way more time than I'm generally willing to give up with a fulltime job, on-and-off parttime job, and a slowly failing social life.

I think its about time to just shoot my social life in the face and just start in on VC though. If my friends are real friends, they'll come over and watch me play. Or get a PS3 and just chat with me via that.
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