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Saints Row 2: Stilwater is a Nice Place to Start Over
Josh Tolentino | 6:27 AM on 12.18.2008 12 comments




Personally, I rarely play open-world games past their main campaigns, which is why I delay playing the main campaigns of Fallout 3 and Oblivion (killing any sense of urgency), but with Saints Row 2, even more than GTA San Andreas, it just feels like so much fun, and not work, to start over.

GTA IV, Mercenaries 2 and such have their own pros and cons, but after I finished the missions for each I just put them down, and started up a different genre. Not even multiplayer seemed fun anymore once I felt like I had gotten what the single-player game had to offer. I've restarted GTAIV to pick up the recently-added trophies, but that's really just busywork, stuff I'll do "for added value".

But there's something about Saints Row 2 that makes it actually FUN to start from scratch, to replay my taking over the city, one neighborhood at a time. Stilwater isn't as interesting or memorable a town as Liberty City, Vice City, or Los Santos (and San Fierro and Las Venturas). Saints Row 2's driving isn't as much fun (in GTAIV it took at least some skill to learn and finesse), and its combat laughably easy, but why do I want to start again immediately, as I finished the last of the missions ten minutes ago.

I've also got a lot of games just waiting to be played, so it's not as if I'm starved for content. Prince of Persia, Yakuza 2, Dead Space, Resistance 2, Mirror's Edge, all are available to me*, and yet I can't tear myself away from the sweater vest-wearing, Kung Fu-fighting, Spanish-speaking monster that I birthed from a plastic surgeon's ward. Why have I become so attached to Saints Row 2?

And I haven't even tried multiplayer.

*There is, of course, Persona 4, which I will unbox as soon as I return to my apartment in mid-January. That is when I am SURE I'll want to put Saints Row 2 down.

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zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 07:25
zombiekiller13
I have to disagree about the driving aspect not being fun. It is very reminiscent of Vice City, at least for me, and is a welcome change from the realistic driving in GTA IV.

But, I agree that the game is damn addictive. I haven't even started the gang missions (finished the Saints missions to get the underground safehouse). I've been playing around with side missions and running around the city doing crazy shit.

As I said, for me the game is very reminiscent of GTA: Vice City. I spent hours and hours and hours playing that game, even after I beat it. I did the same for San Andreas, but there was something different about VC...maybe it was subconsciously due to the fact that it didn't have yellow or brown haze applied to it? That my brain was enjoying both the complete freedom of a sandbox game AND the bright, vivid colors?

I don't know...what I do know is I enjoyed running my skinny, redhead, pierced, biker chick through the mall last night, gunning down anyone that got in my way...after having to take my kids to see Santa at the mall and deal with all the shit-heads there.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 07:50
Josh Tolentino
I have to admit that while I'm feeling a powerful urge to start again right now, the first things I will do are complete the activities that unlock unlimited ammo, health regeneration, and unlimited sprint. Limiters like that really sapped the fun out of the early game.
LaxLuster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 08:18
LaxLuster
Nice to hear about a game with some replay value. These days it takes me a month or two just to beat one of the longer games, making acheivement hunting more of a chore than a bonus.
weedgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 09:11
weedgan
I thought Saints Row 2 was alright, it's fun. But it's glitchy and the driving just sort of sucks. I liked GTAIV driving much more because each care sort of had it's own weight and when you were going fast you really felt liek you were going fast. Saint Row 2, well, it's like driving RC Cars.

Story in Saints Row 2 is awful, I think they made is cheesy on purpose.

GTAIV might have worn out it's welcome with people, but it in terms of scope, tech, gameplay and presentation it blows Saints Row 2 out of the water.

Not to mention if it were not for GTA, there would be no Saints Row 2. And the reason GTAIV tunred out how it did was becasue R* North wanted to do more, and you can tell.
DrachulaX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 09:35
DrachulaX
Saints Row 2 was just flat out fun. The customization was deep, the open world fun to explore, and its easy to get lost and just fucj around.
dronkmunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 09:46
dronkmunk
Yeah I just bought this game the other day and spent a few minutes with it. It seems fun, but it made me want to play GTA. So I put GTA in and realized that even with all its flaws GTA IV is miles above and beyond SR2. Driving is more fun and there seems to be more attention paid to detail. When the next GTA is out and they add in more fun side missions and stuff, it is going to be unstoppable. I am glad to hear that SR2 was not a waste of money and I look forward to playing it.
zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 11:42
zombiekiller13
Here you go...love him or hate him, Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw hit the nail on the head. also, this video is the reason I bought the game.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/312-Saints-Row-2

Sorry...I always fuck up embedding videos into comments.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2008 12:33
RonBurgandy2010
I loved SR2. And the driving, unlike GTA4, was actually fun, mostly because it worked.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/01/2009 23:22
ikiryou
Saints Row 2 is still fighting with Persona 4 and Fallout 3 for the title of Game Of The Freaking Year: 2008. I swear they should've made it into an MMO instead of tacking on the multiplayer.
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