So, Square-Enix is having a bit of a rough patch in Japan. Their games are selling well, especially on the DS, but apparently not up to their standards. Their excuse? The "core" gamer has deserted them.
Interview
here.
So I gotta ask, any one else sick of hearing guys like this or
Reggie from Nintendo talk about "core" gamers or "hardcore" gamers or what ever they're calling us today like they know anything about how we think?
I personally think the term "hardcore" gamer needs to die, or at least drastically change in it's definition. It doesn't mean anything to me anymore. One self professed "hardcore" gamer will say that their two favorite games of last year were Super Mario Galaxy and Geometry Wars Galaxies, another would say they hate both of those games because they aren't "hardcore" enough. It's like if one self professed vegetarian ate nothing but veggie-burgers, while others would only eat chocolate. While technically both vegetarians, they are so vastly different that I don't think using the same name to describe them makes much sense.
There are two distinct types of gamers that identify as "hardcore", those play games like they were a sport, and those that play them like they are art. There is the "hardcore" gamer who only plays games like plays WoW or Halo 3 but does so every night, then there is the "hardcore" gamer who wants to play every kind of game out their because they are in love with the medium as a whole.
When Reggie says that Mario Galaxy is Nintendo's gift to "hardcore" gamers for 2007, he has to know that at least 50% of self-identified "hardcore" gamers out there (the WoW and Halo 3 types described above) would never play the game. It makes him sound ignorant to what gamers want. But what if he used a different term, a term like "diehard" or "long time" or " lettuce-head" gamers? I think he would have sounded less stupid. Still a little dumb, but not as much.
The Square-Enix guy is even more ridiculous sounding, because he is not only mislabeling gamers, but using his mislabeling to blame gamers for his company's poor sales. The "core" gamer is a live and well in Japan, if you define "core" gamer as someone who loves all kinds of video games despite their lack of graphical complexity . This kind of "core" gamer buys a DS over a PSP, a Wii over a 360, despite their weaker CPU's. That's the kind of "core" gamer Japan is obviously jam packed with, but not the kind Square-Enix caters to.
Your thoughts, D-toid?
Try developing some original fucking games and you might see more sales. Don't go hiding behind a buzzterm because it's trendy, you fucking pricks.
then there is the "hardcore" gamer who wants to play every kind of game out their because they are in love with the medium as a whole.
This quote describes me to a T. I purchase countless video games to play, collect, and experience because that is my hobby and my passion. I own games that are labled childish, garbage, epic, and classic. I am a "hardcore" gamer because of this, or would it be better to call me a gaming enthusiast?
I used to be all "IM TOTALLY ME, DON'T LABEL ME!" but as I grow older I think labels are needed to gain some sort of satisfaction as to who you are.
If a gamer is someone who has played a video game then the whole fucking world are gamers. I think casual and hardcore is labels to keep. They are not offensive so anyone to be fair and it's easier to distinguish people.
Knowing if someone is casual or hardcore is easier at knowing what they will understand when you go on at them about games that are coming out or old games they would know about. Knowing what their limits are etc.
I'm not saying that we have to have labels I am just saying it's easier to distinguish between gamers as a whole.
As far as I'm concerned, developers should worry about making good games instead of worrying over labels. If a game isn't selling, it's either not marketed well, or is just plain shite (or both).
I pray that the casual/hardcore crap will stop soon.
Or I am sitll delirious!
only reason i'd ever call myself a 'hardcore gamer' is because i like to wrap rubber bands around my testicles while i play sitting on nothing but a block of ice. yeah, i'm hardcore.
The only problem I have with the hardcore/casual labels is that it sometimes seems that you can be only one or the other. I don't consider myself a hardcore gamer by any stretch of the imagination, I hate playing competitively and sometimes art games bore me. However, I know I'm not a casual gamer either, I've sunk too much time and money into my hobby for it to be considered "casual".
Technically it's there, not their. (sorry)
And shipero took my point. I like playing games to be playing games. I like fun. Competetive gaming bores me, mostly because I don't sink enough time into becoming "1337" at them. I'm sorry, I don't have that kind of time and commitment. I like to play the game, have fun with it, complete it the best I can, and move on.
As for the whole hardcore title, what does it matter in the long run? If you like playing WoW and that's all you play, then that's fine. If you like playing Halo 3 or Call of Duty or Mario, cool with me. I think labeling gamers based on what they play is stupid.
I didn't have time to write this up a thoroughly as I would have liked, as I was already late for work. But when I saw that Square-Enix interview, I just had to say something.
And I'm totally with Sterling about Squeenix. I'd finally play a Squeenix game all the way through if they'd put their talent and effort into something totally new. Right now though, their turds are getting too big to fit out their butts.
I got that awesome analogy from my boss.
Unless Jim beasts me to it, I may do a more long winded, references and pic packed front page version of this for the weekend or something.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.