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So maybe No More Heroes does make a few nods to FF VII...
Jonathan Holmes | 9:19 PM on 12.23.2009 12 comments


I was just finishing up a post about the new No More Heroes 2 website, and one of the screenshots really struck me.



That really does look like a black-and-white, tattooed Cloud Strife, doesn't it?

Now, people have been saying for a while that Helter Skelter, the first guy that Travis Touchdown fights (and kills) in No More Heroes is a Sephiroth tribute/parody. He's got the same white hair, the same bare-chested fashion sense, and he even sort of stands the same way (meaning, he sticks his hips out in the same emotional way).



Sure sure, I see the resemblance, but it's not enough for me to believe that there is definitely a connection here. I mean, we need more than some hair similarities and hip-posture to start taking this seriously, right? It's Skelter Helter (Helter Skelter's brother and first boss of No More Heroes 2, seen in the screenshot above) that has me moving towards buying into this theory.

Same spiky hair, same ribbed, sleeveless sweater-thing, and the same logic-defying suspenders/belt combo. Just make the hair blond, the shirt a little bluish, and...



Yeah, I sort of see it.

The really weird part is, the resemblance is so subtle that it's almost not even there. Actually that's not that weird, is it? This is Suda 51 we're talking about. If he's trying to make some sort of comment about FF VII with these bosses, he probably wants it done it in a way that's open to interpretation, or isn't consciously noticable at all.

So why would Skelter Helter and Helter Skelter be look-a-likes of FF VII's two most iconic characters? Is this Suda's way of saying he wants his character (Travis) to kill the current standard notion of what a "Japanese" game is? And why are the Helter Skelter/Skelter Helter brothers in black and white? Could it be that Suda is pointing out that the "absolute good vs absolute evil" world of JRPGs is something that needs to be killed off? And what about No More Heroes 3? Can we expect a sexy, Tifa-looking Skelter sister to be the first boss? Will she have a dolphin kick? If so, what will that mean? I mean, really mean?



Alright Jim, I'll shut up now.

Still, it's kind of cool to think that a Cloud Strife cosplayer might be the first boss of NMH2.



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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/23/2009 22:06
Chris Carter
Know what I love? When eccentric creators give tons of backstory on their creations. Like when Quentin Tarantino explains the origins of The Bear Jew's baseball bat: shit like that. Those are my favorite types of Directors. People who care so much about their projects, that they add all this extra material into them that never really sees the light of day.

I'd love for there to be a secret movie on Helter Skelter somewhere in NMH2.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/23/2009 22:09
Excel-2011
@Magnalon:
High five.
battle for endor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/23/2009 23:40
battle for endor
well just a little comment...the first pic...well it looks like those dudes should be wearing snuggies...and have strange light saber noices projecting from thier mouths.... The second pic...that guy well he is just driven by a much deeper force. LIKE MOST MEN.... the third pic on the left... well, belt and suspenders....he may look a little paranoid...but if he is going into battle then atlest he knows that his pants are not going to fall down. As to the one on the right...well come on please he is just compensating for something...i mean that GREAT WHITE of a sword is just way to big.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 02:22
TheCleaningGuy
I just started playing God Hand (which Suda 51 may or may not have been involved with), and I thought that would be the weirdest video game to happen to me ever.
I'm pretty sure NMH2 is going to top it.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 06:58
Discarded Couch Sandwich
I'm honored that you'd choose to rob my Jim screengrab for this blog! Took me ages to figure out how to do a screen snapshot, eventually had to send the link to the girlfriend cause my new expensive laptop didn't seem capable of doing a simple task.

Fun fact about me: back when I watched the first No More Heroes trailer (or "Heroes" as it were back then, name probably changed due to a particular TV show starting at the time), like an idiot I genuinely wondered why they killed off one of the "main characters" before the game had begun.

Duh, he's probably not a main character if he doesn't have a head.

Actually, I doubt that would stop Suda.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 08:28
Gen Eric Gui
@Couch Sandwich: It already didn't! Killer 7 has a recurring character that is ONLY a head. The first time that thing tumbled out of a dryer and started talking to me I knew I was in for a ride.


Anyways, part of me heavily doubts that these characters are in any way connected to their FF7 "lookalikes", but another smaller part of me says it is just because it's Suda. Dude's crazy. Anyway, news doesn't really effect me in any way, seeing as how I didn't like FF7 anyway. But it's interesting to think about none-the-less.
Pencoin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 08:42
Pencoin
I noticed straight away that guy looks like Cloud. Didn't really think the other guy looks like Sephiroth, but now that you mention it I do see it.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 10:16
ProperlyParanoid
Wow, the sword really looks like the Buster sword. Nice find.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 10:48
Kyle MacGregor
Is it weird if an ideal day to me involves wanting to go to 7-11 to get Slurpees, then take Suda51 for Sushi and discuss the state of the world and everything?
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2009 10:54
Shin Oni
maybe suda just hates all the FFVII popularity as if it's the "epitome of FF/PSX RPGs of our time. I mean...if the connection's there, why else are they the first killed in each game? Plus we don't even fight helter skelter. Hatred towards sephiroth much?
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Clint
I can see it. Just like Dark Star is a nod to Darth Vader (and IIRC one of the Judges from FFXII)
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