Anyone else notice that the amount Wii-hate on the internet has really died down recently? It used to be that you couldn't go five seconds on a gaming blog without reading stuff like "The Wii isn't a game console, it's a toy" or "All Wii games looks like shit always all the time" or "I sold my dusty Wii because it has no games and it's not a gaming console and it waggles and I hate it and Nintendo abandoned me because they didn't go HD". These sorts of comments were bound to show up in any post about any Wii game, sometimes written by readers, and sometimes by the bloggers themselves. When I first started reading Destructoid, it seemed like I every other post was a Summa written Wii-bash. I don't miss it, or him.
These days, Wii bashing seems to be on the decline. Though there will always be a few noisy crickets, I reckon that I've seen more "Man, this almost makes me want to buy a Wii" and "That game looks fun, I hope it gets ported to a system I own" sort of comments in Wii posts than ever before.
I wonder why this is?
A few guesses-
* The Wii is getting more "hardcore" friendly games than it used to (Metroid: Other M, Sin and Punishment 2, FF CC The Crystal Bearers, Dead Space: Extraction, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, No More Heroes 2, Muramasa, etc)
*The fact that the Wii is only sort-of kicking ass in "the console wars" instead of totally kicking ass. Becoming less of a threat makes people less afraid, and therefore less angry (thanks Yoda!)
* Most people realize that even if the Wii doesn't go on to outsell the 360 and the PS3, that it has already has "won" the philosophical side of "the console wars", as seen by Microsoft and Sony adopting as many of the Wii's attributes as possible (avatars, motion controls, etc.) Why bash a console that's already "won"?
* You can't make fun motion controls when your console of choice (360 or PS3) is adopting them as fast as it can.
* People grew up.
Those are my theories, what are yours?
I don't know why, but quite a few people have approached me via email over the past week asking if I know anything about Dead Rising coming to the Wii again. Is that because of my notoriously positive review of Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop (I still say it's a great game for $40), or because Frank West was recently announced for Tatsunoko Vs Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars? Or maybe it's because of all the Dead Rising 2 news that came out of TGS 09?
Regardless of why, people are asking me to confirm rumors about Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop 2, or something like that. These rumors include reports of a whole new game, following Frank West and his continuing battle against the undead, to that of a simple down-port of Dead Rising 2.
For my money, the way to go with more Dead Rising on the Wii is to stay away from ports. I know it sounds like stating the obvious, but it needs to be said; put some decent money into Dead Rising Wii this time, and make the game look and play as good as RE4: Wii Edition, and you have something that would sell. Make the game a non-port starring Frank West, and I'd be just as excited for Shop Till You Drop 2 as I am for Dead Rising 2.
I've asked Capcom for confirmation or denial of these rumors, and if I hear anything, I'll let you know.
So, I'm back on TV this month, but this time it's local to New England, and only for a few minutes. Andy McCarthy, the producer/director/editor of all the videos I've done for Dtoid, and Chris Linnane(a good friend of mine named), managed to get a show made for NESN. It's called The Batter's Box, and it premiers Monday, Oct 12th at 6pm EST (that's tomorrow!)
It's a game show about Red Sox trivia, which to me, is a terrible thing. I am very easily annoyed by sports and have a general dislike for the Red Sox. Despite that, I still enjoyed the show. The host is really funny, and it's certainly more interesting that watching an actually baseball game.
OK, that's it for this quick-blog. Hope you're having a good long weekend!
I'm not sure if all the wii hate's died down yet, check out the people frustrated that Epic Mickey, a game we haven't even seen yet, is on the wii. It does seem a bit less prevalent though, maybe because people are just accepting it as a console apart from the HD twins, rather than making fun of it for being different.
I haven't heard any rumors of DR: CTYD 2, but a ground up Wii DR would be absolutely incredible, here's hoping!
Also, I'd totally watch you on TV if the show was available in Seattle.
Honestly, I think people just got bored. They're not paying attention to the Wii anymore. It doesn't change the fact they think it sucks. The whole "I haven't touched my Wii in months" catchphrase at least always floats around.
You guys are making me worried that I just woke up the Wii-haters and that they're going to start up again! It's hard to imagine that they all just got "tired and bored", because in my opinion, Wii-hate and mockery has always been tired and boring.
Why go onto a videogame enthusiast website and mock an entire videogame console and all its games, while simultaneously claiming to be "hardcore" gamer? It's never made any sort of sense to me.
@ The Cleaning Guy- Andy and Chris are going to be shopping the show around to other territories, so if it ends up in Seattle, I'll let you know!
Also, if you like Seattle baseball, maybe I can get you on as a contestant. That's a maybe on top of a maybe on top of a maybe, but I'll let you know.
1. Like WryGuy said people may have gotten tired. Beating a dead horse is only fun for so long before you start looking like the douchebag you really are.
2. They may have broke down and actually bought one. They're in the closet about their ownership and enjoyment of the console due to any perceived backlash from the douchebags in #1 above.
The Wii actually has about twice as many games that pique my interest compared to any other console, but I guess it goes to show that my tastes aren't exactly mainstream.
My Wii hate has fermented into something akin to beer. Still bitter but drink enough of it and you feel good for awhile but the next day feel a little more dumb for it.
Heh.
Anyways, I've owned the Wii from day 1, accidently I might add since I was actually waiting in line in like 30degree weather for a ps3. I missed the last 60gb by like 1 person and was offered a Wii ticket, so I took it, not wanting to go home empty handed. Along with Zelda.
Effin great experience. Though I have to say nothing on the Wii has offered the same experience Twilight Princess has since that wonderful week. I played the crap out of my Wii, until I could find a Ps3, and despite buying some of the must-haves, Super SMASH Bros., Metroid 3, and Super Mario Galaxy(Which I still haven't opened! D:) I do still feel somewhat unsatisified with my purchase.
Not that I hate the Wii, I still have hopes for it in terms of 1st party games, mostly The Other M, but there's so many things that make me dread playing it.
If Nintendo gave me a Mother 4, or brand new Mother-quality rpg, I'd JSTFUAPG on Wii. How about a next gen Pokemon?... DS: Extraction doesn't look like the prequel I would have wanted, and I'll be skipping it. Muramasa hasn't convinced me it's worth it either though it came close. Capcom vs. Tatsunoko would have been awesome, but it's such an old game already I think I might just pass on it too.
I'm getting tired of forcing myself to believe I'm a Nintendo fan based on their past systems, but their new efforts in games just seem lacking. I honestly think the N64 had better games during its time and we know how that system went. Good system that barely got played if you owned a ps.
Final note, I don't see the Wii as having won already. Console sales don't sell me that a system has won any kind of serious war. Only that they sold more. So far the ps3 is winning for me because it clearly has the most must-haves of this generation to me.
Wii hate will continue to exist until the Wii stops being retarded for midcore to hardcore gamers while it pretends to be adequte. The number of "hardcore" games coming out compared to the others is tiny, and the quality of them doesn't even come close. Yet Nintendo continues to make degrading comments to gamers by saying that the hardcore gamer can't be satisfied. No we can't be when the 360 and PS3 are such greener pastures. Fine, be your little casual console, make your tons of money, but excuse us when we aren't just satisfied with your offerings and need to go elsewhere for our console gaming fix.
I can only afford one console. That used to be a Wii, until my boyfriends PS3 made me green with envy and jealousy. Half a year ago I switched and I never looked back.
I still don't understand people's problems with the Wii. It's fine. The online side of things is pretty mediocre, but it is fine console other than that.
I think people just realized the Wii bashing was old, immature and lead to nowhere but hypocrisy as for the points you included like motion sensing. I think everybody shutted the hell up right after E3 because they had to swallow the same bullet after seeing Natal and the.... Sony wand thingy. That is a reason why I laughed hysterically when I saw the announcement of the two new system gimmicks.
Dead Rising Wii 2; the way it sounds I love it. I just hope it is not a port of the actual Dead Rising 2 to the Wii, that would be committing the same horrid mistake again. I like how Frank seems to be adapting inside Capcom's family of characters. I think Nintendo and Capcom are my favorite companies that do that.
As for the batter Box... umm... why? Not saying is bad but, why did you suddenly got in that?
Don't have a Wii. GF wanted a Wii, then Sony said they're releasing motion controls and they'll be compatible with Little Big Planet. She promptly changed her attitude to 'meh' concerning Wii. That was a 'proof by example' (ie not a good one) that the casual market are driven by the gimmick (or innovation) of new things.
However I was kinda gutted when she decided she didn't want one, because I can't afford and I want NMH2, Super Mario Galaxy and most importantly the other M. Only Metroid for NES to play through after I finish Super Metroid (which I've been playing casually for a week), I'm really interested to see where they take it in the other M. Also replaying the Gamecube ones with the motes looks fun.
I think I agree with Yojimbo. More than half the people who constantly bash the Wii openly admit that they have never owned one. When Kyousuke bashed the Wii all the time, he didn't own one, but when he finally bought one, he seemed to absolutely love it. You can't say it's good or bad until you've tried it.
Well, unless it's Natal (maybe) or the PSP Go (definitely). I think those would be the two exceptions.
I recently dusted my Wii off for some hot virtual console action, specifically retro Mario titles and some Donkey Kong Country 2.
I'm keeping it hooked up because I'm going to get the kids the Toy Story game for Christmas, and because I'm going to get me some New Super Mario Bros Wii when it's released.
Also, Epic Mickey has my attention.
Also also, Dead Space: Extraction at some point as well as the next RE.
@ EDS- That's exactly the kind of thing I'd hope to hear from someone with less-than-frequent use of the Wii; an honest explanation of your lack of interest.
@ Perdro- You know, I was down on Natal too, until I played Wii Fit Plus. If Natal devs pull off anything as cool as the chicken suit flight game or the obstacle course game with Natal, then I'm in.
@ HOLY TACO- I think it's more pointer controls with LBP and the PS3 wand. Same with RE5:AE. I don't know of any actual motion controlled games to be announced for the thing.
@ Mondi- Two of my best friends came up with the Batter's Box, one of them being the guy who worked his ass off to edit all of the Dtoid videos we did. I think he edited 14 videos in 14 days for E3 09. The guy is a real dynamo.
Also, that "deal with it" gif RULES.
@ Windmill- Since you don't currently have a Wii, I'll tell you that for some people, the console now has more "hardcore" games than the 360/PS3. Of course, you'd have to be the type of person that considers Little King's Story to be a "hardcore" game. Just goes to show how nebulous of a term "hardcore" is these days.
@ Dwolfwood- You still haven't opened Super Mario Galaxy?
Get back to me after you've played it, and then tell me if you still don't think that "the Wii has offered the same experience Twilight Princess has" since launch. If the answer is "no", I'm going to guess that the problem isn't the quality of games of the Wii, but the style of games on the console.
Also, I hear you on saying that the Wii hasn't won "for you", but the fact that other developers are copying the Wii's traits as fast as they can, while the Wii hasn't adopted any traits of the 360/PS3, is sign that the Wii has "won" to everyone else.
The "winner" of the console war is the one who largely determines the direction that gaming goes in. At least, that's how I see it.
"Why go onto a videogame enthusiast website and mock an entire videogame console and all its games, while simultaneously claiming to be "hardcore" gamer? It's never made any sort of sense to me. "
May I refer you to John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory? :)
"That game looks fun, I hope it gets ported to a system I own"
This line can go either way. It can be seen as contemptuous that the Wii has a title in its library that folks want on their console of choice, and they have a sense of anger and disappointment toward the white box that simply "collects dust."
Personally, I think the Wii hate has toned down simply due to time and distractions. Those folks have moved away from their unique brand of "activism," instead focusing on playing games on their preferred console. And as the months have passed, a select few appear to have forgotten -- but not forgiven -- the Wii's mere existence.
What I think Wii-haters don't realize is that they could be less annoying, and more convincing, if they actually mentioned what they don't like about the Wii when they complain.
When someone says "Yeah, this game looks fun, but I can't bring myself to spend $200 on a SD console" or "I play all my games on the 360 where my friends can hop in online at any time. The Wii's online doesn't allow that, therefore I don't want it" I actually listen. I don't agree, because HD graphics and socializing online while gaming don't mean a lot to me, but at least I listen.
"Dusty Wii sucks not hardcore grrrr!" is just irritating and ignorable.
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Five things I like that a lot of people like
NES games
Resident Evil
Pizza
Mighty Muggs
Comedy games (MadWorld, No More Heroes, Monkey Island, etc)
Five things I like that a lot of people don't like
Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop
Tim and Eric: Awesome Show Great Job! Tingle
The Phantom Menace
Certain farts
Five things that I don't like that a lot people don't like
Hollywood's current obsession with sequels and remakes
Poorly made motion controlled games
Haters
Publishers that care more about making money than making good games
People who care more about keeping their money than supporting good developers (ie Pirates)
Five things that I don't like that a lot people like
Games that copy the style of Hollywood action movies (Gears, Uncharted, etc.)
Fantasizing about having sex with famous women
Spicy Food
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Christian Bale
My Top Ten Atari 2600/5200/7800 Games-
10)Porky's
9)Food Fight
8)Star Raiders
7)Robotron
6)Millipede
5)BurgerTime
4)Donkey Kong
3)Donkey Kong Jr.
2)Pac Man
1)Jr Pac Man
[b]My Top Ten Commadore 64 Games-[b]
10)Bard's Tale III
9)Mail Order Monsters
8)Realm of Impossibility
7)Tapper
6)Impossible Mission
5)Archon II: Adepts
4)Racing Destructoid Set
3)Karateka
2)Maniac Mansion
1)Zack McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders
My Top Ten NES Games-
10)Zelda II:The Adventures of Link
9)Super Mario Bros. 2
8)Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse
7)River City Ransom
6)Ninja Gaiden 2
5)Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
4)Super Mario Bros.
3)Super Mario Bros. 3
2)Mega Man
1)Mega Man 2
My Top Ten TurboGraphx 16 Games-
10)Bloody Wolf
9)Fighting Street
8)Ys Book I and II
7)Legendary Axe II
6)Dungeon Explorer
5)Bonk's Revenge
4)Splatterhouse
3)Legendary Axe
2)Bonk's Adventure
1)Military Madness/Blazing Lasers (tie)
My Top Ten Genesis Games-
10)Shinobi 3: Return of the Ninja Master
9)Revenge of Shinobi
8)Castlevania:Bloodlines
7)Sonic the Hedgehog
6)Altered Beast
5)Herzog Zwei
4)Sonic 2
3)Phantasy Star 2
2)Guardian Heroes
1)Strider
My Top Ten SNES Games-
10)Ranma 1/2: Hard Battle
9)Super Castlevania IV
8)Final Fantasy III
7)Final Fantasy II
6)Earthbound
5)Mega Man X3
4)Zelda III: A Link to the Past
3)Super Contra III
2)Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
1)Super Metroid
My Top Ten Saturn games
10)Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold
9)Panzer Dragoon 2
8)Virtual On
7)Burning Rangers
6)Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo
5)Dragon Force
6)X-Men vs. Street Fighter
5)Darkstalkers 3
4)NiGHTS
3)Mega Man 8 (for Wood Man and Cuts Man
2)Guardian Heroes
1)Panzer Dragoon Saga
My Top Ten PS1 games-
10)The Misadventures of Tron Bonne
9)Incredible Crisis
8)UmJammer Lammy
7)No One Can Stop Mr Domino!!!!
6)Jumping Flash 2
5)Final Fantasy IX
4)Tobal 2
3)Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
2)Resident Evil
1)Resident Evil 2
My Top Ten N64 games-
10)Zelda: Majora's Mask
9)Dr Mario 64
7)Super Smash Bros
6)Mischief Makers
5)Sin and Punishment
4)Star Fox 64
uh...
My Top Ten Dreamcast games-
10)Zombie Revenge
9)Gunbird 2
8)Cannon Spike
7)Garou: Mark of the Wolves
6)Seaman
5)Power Stone 2
4)Shenmue
3)Resident Evil: Code Veronica
2)Street Fighter III:3rd Strike
1)Marvel vs. Capcom 2
[b]My Top Ten Xbox games-[b]
10)Gun Valkyrie
9)Shenmue 2
8)SNK vs. Capcom Chaos
7)Jet Grind Radio Future
6)Panzer Dragoon Orta
um.....
My Top Ten PS2 games-
10)Ico
9)Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
8)Under the Skin (you had to be there...)
7)Gradius V
6)Gitaroo Man
5)R Type Final
4)Shadow of the Colossus
3)Okami
2)God Hand
1)We <3 Katamari
My Top Ten Gamecube Games-
10)Chibi Robo
9)Luigi's Mansion
8)Super Mario Sunshine
7)F-Zero GX
6)Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
5)Zelda: Wind Waker
4)Super Smash Bros Melee
3)Pikmin 2
2)Viewtiful Joe
1)Resident Evil 4
My Top Ten Xbox 360 Games-
10)'Splosion Man
9)Geometry Wars 2
8)Beautiful Katamari
7)Alien Hominid HD
6)Dead Rising
5)REZ HD
4)Ikaruga
3)Braid
2)Castle Crashers
1)Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
My Top Ten PS3 Games-
10)BlazBlue
9)King of Fighters XII
8)Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of the Patriots
7)Street Fighter 4
6)Resident Evil 5
5)Valkyria Chronicles
4)Street Fighter 2 HD Remix
3)Bionic Commando Rearmed
2)The Last Guy
1)Noby Noby Boy
My Top Ten PSP Games-
10)Dissidia
9)Patapon
8)Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins
7)Gradius Collection
6)Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
5)Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX
4)Loco Roco
3)Loco Roco 2
2)Castlevania: Rondo of Blood remake
1)Mega Man: Powered Up
MyTop Ten DS Games-
10)Zelda: The Phantom Hourglass
9)WarioWare: Touched!
8)Mega Man ZX series
7)Contra 4
6)Ace Attorney series
5)Planet Puzzle League
4)Retro Game Challange
3)Tingle's Freshly Picked Rosy Rupeeland
2)Pokemon Pearl
1)Retro Game Challenge 2 (import)
My Top Ten Wii games-
10)Little King's Story
9)Muramasa
8)MadWorld
7)Animal Crossing City Folk
6)Zelda: Twilight Princess
5)Bit.Trip Beat/Core
4)No More Heroes
3)Zelda: Twilight Pri
2)Super Mario Galaxy
1)Super Smash Bros Brawl
(Honorable mention to Domino Rally and Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop...seriously)
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I'm not sure if all the wii hate's died down yet, check out the people frustrated that Epic Mickey, a game we haven't even seen yet, is on the wii. It does seem a bit less prevalent though, maybe because people are just accepting it as a console apart from the HD twins, rather than making fun of it for being different.
I haven't heard any rumors of DR: CTYD 2, but a ground up Wii DR would be absolutely incredible, here's hoping!
Also, I'd totally watch you on TV if the show was available in Seattle.
I think people are just tired, Holmes.
I don't think the Wii has changed anything regarding it's image. It's ALWAYS had a small percentage of good core games.
Honestly, I think people just got bored. They're not paying attention to the Wii anymore. It doesn't change the fact they think it sucks. The whole "I haven't touched my Wii in months" catchphrase at least always floats around.
You guys are making me worried that I just woke up the Wii-haters and that they're going to start up again! It's hard to imagine that they all just got "tired and bored", because in my opinion, Wii-hate and mockery has always been tired and boring.
Why go onto a videogame enthusiast website and mock an entire videogame console and all its games, while simultaneously claiming to be "hardcore" gamer? It's never made any sort of sense to me.
@ The Cleaning Guy- Andy and Chris are going to be shopping the show around to other territories, so if it ends up in Seattle, I'll let you know!
Also, if you like Seattle baseball, maybe I can get you on as a contestant. That's a maybe on top of a maybe on top of a maybe, but I'll let you know.
Why the decline on the Wii hate?
Two possible reasons:
1. Like WryGuy said people may have gotten tired. Beating a dead horse is only fun for so long before you start looking like the douchebag you really are.
2. They may have broke down and actually bought one. They're in the closet about their ownership and enjoyment of the console due to any perceived backlash from the douchebags in #1 above.
The Wii actually has about twice as many games that pique my interest compared to any other console, but I guess it goes to show that my tastes aren't exactly mainstream.
Holmes is an attention whore. Can't stand to be two seconds away from the camera, can you?
The Wii isn't a toy, it's a dust collector.
Feel better now?
My Wii hate has fermented into something akin to beer. Still bitter but drink enough of it and you feel good for awhile but the next day feel a little more dumb for it.
Heh.
Anyways, I've owned the Wii from day 1, accidently I might add since I was actually waiting in line in like 30degree weather for a ps3. I missed the last 60gb by like 1 person and was offered a Wii ticket, so I took it, not wanting to go home empty handed. Along with Zelda.
Effin great experience. Though I have to say nothing on the Wii has offered the same experience Twilight Princess has since that wonderful week. I played the crap out of my Wii, until I could find a Ps3, and despite buying some of the must-haves, Super SMASH Bros., Metroid 3, and Super Mario Galaxy(Which I still haven't opened! D:) I do still feel somewhat unsatisified with my purchase.
Not that I hate the Wii, I still have hopes for it in terms of 1st party games, mostly The Other M, but there's so many things that make me dread playing it.
If Nintendo gave me a Mother 4, or brand new Mother-quality rpg, I'd JSTFUAPG on Wii. How about a next gen Pokemon?... DS: Extraction doesn't look like the prequel I would have wanted, and I'll be skipping it. Muramasa hasn't convinced me it's worth it either though it came close. Capcom vs. Tatsunoko would have been awesome, but it's such an old game already I think I might just pass on it too.
I'm getting tired of forcing myself to believe I'm a Nintendo fan based on their past systems, but their new efforts in games just seem lacking. I honestly think the N64 had better games during its time and we know how that system went. Good system that barely got played if you owned a ps.
Final note, I don't see the Wii as having won already. Console sales don't sell me that a system has won any kind of serious war. Only that they sold more. So far the ps3 is winning for me because it clearly has the most must-haves of this generation to me.
Meh.
We got sick of having to argue with Nintendo fanboys, those guys are one-eyed trolls.
Wii hate will continue to exist until the Wii stops being retarded for midcore to hardcore gamers while it pretends to be adequte. The number of "hardcore" games coming out compared to the others is tiny, and the quality of them doesn't even come close. Yet Nintendo continues to make degrading comments to gamers by saying that the hardcore gamer can't be satisfied. No we can't be when the 360 and PS3 are such greener pastures. Fine, be your little casual console, make your tons of money, but excuse us when we aren't just satisfied with your offerings and need to go elsewhere for our console gaming fix.
I can only afford one console. That used to be a Wii, until my boyfriends PS3 made me green with envy and jealousy. Half a year ago I switched and I never looked back.
I still don't understand people's problems with the Wii. It's fine. The online side of things is pretty mediocre, but it is fine console other than that.
I think people just realized the Wii bashing was old, immature and lead to nowhere but hypocrisy as for the points you included like motion sensing. I think everybody shutted the hell up right after E3 because they had to swallow the same bullet after seeing Natal and the.... Sony wand thingy. That is a reason why I laughed hysterically when I saw the announcement of the two new system gimmicks.
Dead Rising Wii 2; the way it sounds I love it. I just hope it is not a port of the actual Dead Rising 2 to the Wii, that would be committing the same horrid mistake again. I like how Frank seems to be adapting inside Capcom's family of characters. I think Nintendo and Capcom are my favorite companies that do that.
As for the batter Box... umm... why? Not saying is bad but, why did you suddenly got in that?
Oh and by the way, who don't understand why the Wii has better sales being an inferior system.
Well... people like it... so...
Don't have a Wii. GF wanted a Wii, then Sony said they're releasing motion controls and they'll be compatible with Little Big Planet. She promptly changed her attitude to 'meh' concerning Wii. That was a 'proof by example' (ie not a good one) that the casual market are driven by the gimmick (or innovation) of new things.
However I was kinda gutted when she decided she didn't want one, because I can't afford and I want NMH2, Super Mario Galaxy and most importantly the other M. Only Metroid for NES to play through after I finish Super Metroid (which I've been playing casually for a week), I'm really interested to see where they take it in the other M. Also replaying the Gamecube ones with the motes looks fun.
I think I agree with Yojimbo. More than half the people who constantly bash the Wii openly admit that they have never owned one. When Kyousuke bashed the Wii all the time, he didn't own one, but when he finally bought one, he seemed to absolutely love it. You can't say it's good or bad until you've tried it.
Well, unless it's Natal (maybe) or the PSP Go (definitely). I think those would be the two exceptions.
I recently dusted my Wii off for some hot virtual console action, specifically retro Mario titles and some Donkey Kong Country 2.
I'm keeping it hooked up because I'm going to get the kids the Toy Story game for Christmas, and because I'm going to get me some New Super Mario Bros Wii when it's released.
Also, Epic Mickey has my attention.
Also also, Dead Space: Extraction at some point as well as the next RE.
Get ready for a list of responses folks!
@ EDS- That's exactly the kind of thing I'd hope to hear from someone with less-than-frequent use of the Wii; an honest explanation of your lack of interest.
@ Perdro- You know, I was down on Natal too, until I played Wii Fit Plus. If Natal devs pull off anything as cool as the chicken suit flight game or the obstacle course game with Natal, then I'm in.
@ HOLY TACO- I think it's more pointer controls with LBP and the PS3 wand. Same with RE5:AE. I don't know of any actual motion controlled games to be announced for the thing.
@ Mondi- Two of my best friends came up with the Batter's Box, one of them being the guy who worked his ass off to edit all of the Dtoid videos we did. I think he edited 14 videos in 14 days for E3 09. The guy is a real dynamo.
Also, that "deal with it" gif RULES.
@ Windmill- Since you don't currently have a Wii, I'll tell you that for some people, the console now has more "hardcore" games than the 360/PS3. Of course, you'd have to be the type of person that considers Little King's Story to be a "hardcore" game. Just goes to show how nebulous of a term "hardcore" is these days.
@ Dwolfwood- You still haven't opened Super Mario Galaxy?
Get back to me after you've played it, and then tell me if you still don't think that "the Wii has offered the same experience Twilight Princess has" since launch. If the answer is "no", I'm going to guess that the problem isn't the quality of games of the Wii, but the style of games on the console.
Also, I hear you on saying that the Wii hasn't won "for you", but the fact that other developers are copying the Wii's traits as fast as they can, while the Wii hasn't adopted any traits of the 360/PS3, is sign that the Wii has "won" to everyone else.
The "winner" of the console war is the one who largely determines the direction that gaming goes in. At least, that's how I see it.
"Why go onto a videogame enthusiast website and mock an entire videogame console and all its games, while simultaneously claiming to be "hardcore" gamer? It's never made any sort of sense to me. "
May I refer you to John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory? :)
"That game looks fun, I hope it gets ported to a system I own"
This line can go either way. It can be seen as contemptuous that the Wii has a title in its library that folks want on their console of choice, and they have a sense of anger and disappointment toward the white box that simply "collects dust."
Personally, I think the Wii hate has toned down simply due to time and distractions. Those folks have moved away from their unique brand of "activism," instead focusing on playing games on their preferred console. And as the months have passed, a select few appear to have forgotten -- but not forgiven -- the Wii's mere existence.
What I think Wii-haters don't realize is that they could be less annoying, and more convincing, if they actually mentioned what they don't like about the Wii when they complain.
When someone says "Yeah, this game looks fun, but I can't bring myself to spend $200 on a SD console" or "I play all my games on the 360 where my friends can hop in online at any time. The Wii's online doesn't allow that, therefore I don't want it" I actually listen. I don't agree, because HD graphics and socializing online while gaming don't mean a lot to me, but at least I listen.
"Dusty Wii sucks not hardcore grrrr!" is just irritating and ignorable.