I'm working on some actual news posts right now, but in the background my girlfriend is watching Frank Miller's recent film The Spirit. I'm half watching it too, looking up every minute or so to take a peek at it, tuning- in every other line to listen to it.
The movie looks like nothing I've ever seen. It's beautiful, and geniunely classy, which off-sets the terrible acting and blatantly ridiculous story in a fantastic way. The story is clearly slave to the visuals, and it's all so god damn weird. It's impossible to predict what will happen next. The only thing I think I know for sure so far is that the volume on the movie's retardeness amplifier has been consistently turned up to eleven, and it seems to be doing it all on purpose.
The movie totally bombed in theaters, potentially returning Frank Miller to movie obscurity, a place he was stuck in for years after RoboCop 2 failed to meet expectations. From what I can tell though, the movie has all the makings of a cult classic. In fact, I'm sort of surprised that it wasn't better appreciated in the first place. My guess is that it just looked too weird for people to take the chance on seeing it in theaters. It's a new IP after all, and in this modern day, new IP generally lose to remakes and sequels. Throw some less-than-stellar reviews in there, (not surprisingly, many critics didn't "get" the movie), and you have a product that people just aren't likely to risk their time and money on.
If people aren't 100% sure their going to like something these days, they just wont buy it.
Now swap out words movie with game, The Spirit with MadWorld, Frank Miller with Platimun/Clover Studios, and RoboCop 2 with God Hand, and it pretty much still rings true.
OK, now Edgar-from-24's head is attached to a foot, and this head-foot thing is hopping around on a lab table. Sam Jackson says he's depressed about this.
Yep, The Spirit is out as close to a MadWorld movie as we're ever likely to see.
All I knew him from before was random Anime and Liquid Television. I've always loved his voice, but never had the wherewithal to look him up.
Thanks, Magnalon!
Best line in the film.
Just saying :)
Never saw it though, maybe it is more MadWorld-y
However aside from the black/white and red style of the movie I fail to see the similarities with Madworld. then again I only played Madworld for about 10 minutes.
So, y'know. It'd be The Spirit.
Gotta correct you here. The Spirit has existed since the 1930's. Will Eisner created him, not Frank Miller.
No problem! He's been my 2nd favorite voice actor since I was in middle school (next to JYB). Honestly he's been every major dub Anime character in most of the "AAA" animes out there. I'm glad he's getting radio/tv commercial voice-over work, and like I mentioned, I hope he plans on branching out to feature films someday. Randomly, he's even in Brave Fencer Musashi (which everyone should play), The Bouncer, and Dead Rising!
His latest work is nearly every character in G.I. Joe: Resolute.
They both have terrible scripts, and in both cases, that seems like the point.
Sin City also had a terrible script, but it wasn't quite as terrible as The Spirit's. It also didn't fail at the box office like The Spirit did. That's the real connection here. The Spirit and MadWorld have both underperformed thus far, and I think that's because they were both misunderstood.
The real difference is that The Spirit cost a lot of money to make, where MadWorld was a relatively low budget game, so MadWorld may not end up being a loss like The Spirit was.
I can see where we're going with this.
Besides that, The Spirit most definitely was a new IP to the general movie going public, unlike Spider Man, Iron Man, The Hulk, Super Man, Bat Man, etc.
You say many critics didn't "get" the movie. They did in fact "get" The Spirit, they also "got" that it was a terrible, stupid movie with hardly any redeeming qualities. So basically this blog is saying that both Madworld and The Spirit are in black an white? Nice observation.
They should have embraced that it was a campy super hero flick to have fun with. That or take that stupid "Get me a tie, and it better be red" line out of the ad altogether. That line is what left a bad taste, because it was so horrible but the rest of the ad had this movie painted as a serious bad-ass flick in the vein of Sin City, so the line seemed way out of place. Which, after watching the movie, I see it fits perfectly.
80% of the jokes fell flat, to the point where I wondered what was wrong with me when I found my self chuckling at one that did work.
I love Miller, so it was a big disappointment.
But then it happened. After about a week, I found myself wanting to see it again. It took a while, but it hit the "So Terrible, It's Amazing" level. I could still only recommend it to a select few, but throw a few beers in you and some friends and you will have a great night.
80% of the jokes fell flat, to the point where I wondered what was wrong with me when I found my self chuckling at one that did work.
I love Miller, so it was a big disappointment.
But then it happened. After about a week, I found myself wanting to see it again. It took a while, but it hit the "So Terrible, It's Amazing" level. I could still only recommend it to a select few, but throw a few beers in you and some friends and you will have a great night.
Also, all voice actors are inferior to Crispin Freeman.
Put him aside Laura-Bailey and whatever results will be the best film in recorded history.
This was a Frank Miller movie, not a Will Eisner movie. And Frank can't write any more. It's all posing, static dialogue and converse all-star sneakers. Miller always wanted to be Hollywood, this was his shot, and he went full-ego-ahead instead of respecting the source material.
In my opinion, the only similarities to Mad World may be the art direction (but Mad World was cribbing Sin City respectively, so there you go). Mad World was a focused slice of entertainment. The Spirit was about as unfocused a product as could be possible.
So in terms of silly script, redness and most importantly revenue yes they were both a flop i guess, but in terms of quality, the two should not even be correlated...and there is where the similarity ends for me.
Anyway, that's not the point I was trying to make, but I wont even bother trying to re-explaing it.
Moving on.
@ Haxan- After reading the Sin City: Hell and Back and the Dark Knight Strikes Back, I knew that Miller was probably done with "serious" stories for good. The guy is a comedy writer now; a really, really weird comedy writer that keeps the surprises coming with stuff that simply makes no sense. I accept that, and that acceptance really helped me in my expectations around The Spirit.
I plan to watch it again in a few weeks, but as of right now, I can say that I think it has potential to join Evil Dead 2 and Mars Attacks in my "So bad, it's good" movie top ten.
But Evil Dead 2, a bad movie? What? Good horror elements, great slapstick, amazing one-liners. It's camp to be sure. But it pulls off everything that it attempts to perfection. I'm curious as to your reasoning there.
My take on The Spirit is that it also pulled off everything it attempted, and that it also knew that it was bad.
I'm suddenly remembering Planet Terror, another parody/tribute comedy/action film that bombed at the box office. And Slither, too.
In games and in movies, I'm just not sure that the parody/tribute genre has mainstream appeal. Too bad Pole's Big Adventure will never come out here so we can see how that'd do.
The Spirit tries to be funny, and very seldom is it. Watching it, you see jokes fall falt right and left. I saw it in the theater on opening day, and I was the only one in there even laughing to a couple of the jokes. It failed in that respect. It is actually a very boring movie. There's a bit of a goofiness to it, but nowhere near enough to carry it. It's just bad. But, in retrospect, it was "So bad, it's good".
The "So bad, it's good" title applies to movies that are just bad on almost every level. But when you take all of that terrible as a whole, you end up with awesome. A movie where you celebrate it's incompetence more than the few things it might do right. Movies like "You Got Served" and "Plan 9 From Outer Space". But Evil Dead 2 is an achievment. It is a legitimatly good film. It pulls off great horror moments, and then trips you up with tons of intentionally funny bits that always hit their marks.
The Spirit, on the other hand was meant to be a joyful, comedic ride. And in that it falls flat on its face. I wonder if you have a higher opinion of it because you weren't really watching it, you were peeking up at it every once in a while. Try to watch that sucker start to finish, and tell me that you don't start to find it next to Dullsville before you're halfway through it. Don't just focus on the bizarre moments that pop up every now and again. Take it in as a whole. Then tell me that you'd put it in the same category with Evil Dead 2 or Mars Attacks; films that are a treat to watch from beginning to end. Films that aren't serious darmatic pieces, true, but are non-stop fun and intentionally so.