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I was being a total ass, openly laughing at a family that was shopping for new 360/Wii/PSP games. There was just something about their situation that struck me as so...true. I guess a big reason for my glee is that I've long been of the opinion that more "E" rated games are best suited for adults, and most "M" rated games will be most appealing to children. But I'm getting way ahead of myself. So here was the scene; I'm standing in line waiting to pick up my DSi, along with Manhunt 2 (on sale for $20. I had to have it, just for the piece of history it represents) and Valkaria Chronicles (every one says the game is great, and it was on sale for $30, and what's $30 dollars of debt going to do to me?). Behind me I hear a man and a woman bickering softly about which Wii game they should buy. The woman wants that new Wii Fit rip-off from EA (Active Life I think it's called?) and the man wants Metroid Prime 3. Probably looking for a tie breaker, the woman calls to who I assume is her son, who's lying on the floor, staring at the ceiling. He couldn't have been more than seven. "Come look at the Wii games with us!" she says. "WAAAAANGHHH!" replies the boy. "360!" He really yelled that last part, loud enough to get the whole store's attention. It was then that I noticed that he was lying next some 360 games. He really seemed in love with them. "No no, Craig (I think that was his name), we're already getting two 360 games today. It's time to shop for Wii and PSP games now". "Wuah...MOM! I want Resident Evil Fi-eive!" he whined, very serious. The man then whispers to the woman "No, we're already getting him Left 4 Dead and Halo 3. That's $120 dollars..." "C'mon mom, I want Resident Evil Fiiiuuuuughhhhve!" It's really hard for me to not start laughing at that point, so I tune out for a bit as to not make a scene. I see the kid running around with the Resident Evil 5 box, showing it to the man and woman on and off, clearly trying to sell them on the idea that they would love it. He also tries to get the guy (Glenn?) to buy the Left 4 Dead guide, saying something like "C'mon, pleeeeez? It's got the clues you need to beat the game!" His parents (if that's who they were) did not seem convinced. Then the kid and the mom ended up right next to me at the front of the line. They were sifting through the UMDs, which I assume they thought were PSP games, but maybe they weren't that ignorant. It was hard to tell, especially after the exchange I witnessed next. The kid said "I want this one!" picking up Aliens. The mom calls back to Glenn, who is now behind them in the PS3 section. "Glenn?" she says, "Is Aliens OK for Craig?" "No no, it's not kiddie enough" says Glenn. At this point, I'm openly snickering through my nose, and the family seems to have taken notice. They don't seem to dare. "OK, how about this one? The Terminator!" says mom. "WAT? NO! That's OLD!" says the son. "Oh, Ok, well how about a comedy?" chimes mom, pulling out Bewitched (starring Will Ferrel and Nicole Kidman). The kid stares blankly. "It's really, REALLY funny Craig..." mom says smiling. Total failure. "Alright" decides mom "We're getting this and we're leaving" pulling Robocop from the pile, getting behind me in line. "I'm big enough to watch Aliens..." pouts Craig, clearly dissatisfied with mom's choice. At that point I finally bought my stuff and left, but I'll be thinking for a long time about that family. Now I wasn't laughing at the family because I thought Craig had bad parents. I don't think that any of those "M" rated games and "R" rated movies are necessarily going to be bad for Craig. That kind of stuff would certainly bother some kids, but for others, I don't think it would affect them at all. The fun part for me was seeing the adults be so interested in the "E" or "T" rated games and "PG" rated movies, and it was he kid that was all about the "M" and "R" rated shit. I've long thought that it was kids that really love scary, hardcore games, just like it was kids I grew up with who really loves bloody comic books, Freddy and Jason, etc. According to Grand Theft Childhood, the number one most popular game series with 12-14 year olds, male and female, is actually Grand Theft Auto I don't think Mario even made the list Of course this was just one incident with one family, but still, it was both amusing and satisfying in a narcissistic way. I' say narcissistic because for me, it's the "M" rated games I'm into really speak to the most juvenile, pre-teen side of my personality (I'm looking at you, MadWorld), while it's games like Animal Crossing that it takes maturity for me to appreciate. This family's little squabble was not unlike the conversation I have with myself when deciding what to buy for myself. The kid in me wanted Manhunt 2, the adult in me wanted Valkaria Chronicles. Anyway, enough about me, what do you guys think? Were they bad parents, or is Craig the luckiest kid on the planet?
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I think.
But your story is cool as well.
Anyway, I think kids(I am still one technically) love more R rated shit becuase we are told it is bad. We just want what we can't have. And besides,
As for adults I guess, since its not a problem for them to have it, they don't care what it is rated as long as it appeals to them.
I'm sorry but maybe it was because I didn't have the best financial situation growing up but I was lucky to get a game. This kid had a temper tantrum because he didn't get 3 games and a movie that he wanted?
I think up to the point I started buying my own systems/games (Gamecube) I got about 5 or 6 games a generation, usually for Christmas or my birthday, and my parents would take me to the Blockbuster once a month to rent something when they got a movie and popcorn, and I appreciated the hell out of it because I understood it was a privilege not a right.
Kids like this annoy me. But in reality I think its the parents fault. They were given a child who up until about the age he is today, is totally under their control and influence. Over the next few years he will be picking things up off his peers but right now he's influenced by them. They created a consumerism driven child that expects to get whatever he wants when he wants, regardless of how he acts.
I never thought beating children was a good thing. But I wonder what just couple times of pulling out the belt would do for some of these brats.
While Craig didn't necessarily have bad parents, they do seem out of the loop when it comes to popular media, which is a huge problem with parents these days. They're too unattached from their kid's habits.
I think his choices are influenced by his environment, and the way he was raised. I know tons of kids growing up that would choose Animal Crossing every time over GTA4. Why? They were over-nurtured, and don't buy into fads.
I also know tons of kids who grew up in a bad area, and if you don't like GTA, you're a "fagot". It's entirely possible he may have been influenced by his group of friends, who in turn, were influenced by their parents/siblings/tough living arrangement.
I think it can go either way. M is appealing to some kids, E is to others.
I'm glad that when my wife and I have kids, I'll be able to pinpoint games. In fact, I'll be researching and playing some of the titles he/she may want. At 5 years old, some people may get their kids God of War III, after Sony promised there would be tons of sex scenes none the wiser.
By the way good pickups.
fuck gamestop for letting them buy it for a kid, they damn well could hear the conversation and still the kid gets a pass. if i were behind the counter i would not have sold it to them and told them to go elsewhere or buy something appropriate.
Lying on the floor of a gamestop like it's his personal playpen and screaming at the top of his lungs while the parents lackadaisically wander around the store ignoring him like there is nothing wrong with that is what irritates me more then anything.
I am sorry, i am very conservative about this stuff and take the ratings like the most serious shit ever.
When I have kids I will give them strictly what I find appropriate and also fun, maybe I will let them have M-rated games by the age of 13 or so, even still M-rated games are for people over 17, there are many games that are too absurd for being considered that huge.
That is funny though how the kid wants the M rated games and the parent the E and T rated ones. But seriously, 2 games! Throughout my life my parents have boughten me like 8 games I think, all of them on holiday's or as presents most likely as well. Maybe it's because as a kid my family was always short on money, still kind of am, and that's why every time I buy a game it's a big deal to me.
Ok, whoah sorry, got way off topic there. Anyways, I have a similar story I'd like to share as well. At target (or was it toys 'r us?) there was a kid at the register already. his brother was getting a game, but he couldn't decide on what to get. I'm just browsing the shelves by the way, I think I was looking for a game but I forgot which. Anyways, the mom asks the cashier for suggestions, he offers Super Mario Sunshine, a great fit, the kids like 12 or so probably. But I forget what he said exaclty, but I think he just shook his head and said he wanted Ghost Recon or something... WHAT? when I was 12, I played 12 year old games.
Evidently they found it inconvenient that I should care at all what their minor children were buying. I enjoyed pissing them off because I hated my job so I kept up with sending the kids away again and again, but if I would've refused to sell a game to an adult I'd have likely been fired because that's throwing away money and retail stores frown on that.
Don't blame the poor counter jockey. They have enough of their own problems without having to police the gaming habits of every kid in the world.
Have you seen RoboCop? It's one of the most brutally violent movies I ever remember seeing as a kid. The main character, the guy you identify with, gets really brutally killed with in the first twenty minutes. I remember his hand getting blown off as one of the grossest movie moments EVAR.
@ Mxyz- Yeah, I know, I'm retarded. I haven't played the game yet, but I know it's going to be awful.
I also paid $5 for the Catwoman game. I hate a track record for buying crap, but sometimes I just can't say no.
@ Everyone saying the parents were jackasses- You know, I'm not sure what has a good or bad effect on kids, so I'm going to stay out of it.
Every twenty five years standards on that completely change. I know that 100 years ago, people would have looked at five minutes of Mtv, and deemed the whole channel to be pornographic devil television capable of turning any child into a hell spawwn. And maybe they'd be right; I just don't know.
People are still figuring out what hurts kids and what doesn't. I agree with anyone who'd rather not take chances with showing their kids something that might disturb them, but I'm not 100% sure that violent games and movies are always that harmful.
I figure it depends on the kid, and how sensitive they are. But again, I don't know, so I'm shutting up now.
And wow those parents really need to be educated in how to shop for there kid, if i ever acted like that in a store growing up, you be sure the only thing I'll be getting is some sore hind quarters,:)
Nothing happened, but my Dad ran me right up to my room and was pissed; he told me not to watch TV. I turned on the TV and watched Robocop, haha. What a great movie.
i just watched Robocop yesterday, he shoots a dude in the balls!
also... there's a Left 4 Dead guide? Why?
Psh, I was lucky enough to get one game when I was little. Anyways, I hated violence when I was a child. The mere sight of a gun made me cry. Yes, I know, I was a little pansy back then. When I was around his age, I was more than excited to play Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, and all the classic Nintendo games.
I actually do prefer to play cartoony, un-realistic games, such as Katamari Damacy, Castle Crashers, and Super Smash Bros. I am not saying I do not however enjoy the major M-Rated games the 360 has to offer. I would buy my kid Halo 3, but that is one of the only M-rated titles I would buy for him. Left 4 Dead? Resident Evil 5? Fuck that.
I do agree a child will go over to a friend's house to play it, but that is still better than buying it for your child. I want to smack some sense into parents that bought their childeren GTA IV, Left 4 Dead, or Resident Evil 5... god, that is just horrible. That would bother me, as a child, for a while.
Also, @ Seigfried:
I can just see you finding him in L4D:
"Are you Craig? ARE YOU CRAIG???!!! I'LL SHOW YOU MATURE!"
Also also,
BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU CLUES!
There are guides for the shittiest of games, prima would sell you a guide on how to slice bread if there were a market for it.
Until he got home and realized was a pos that game is and wish he had never listened to some geeks advice in a gamestop. ;P
... I am displeased.
My muscles, they are bulging. Hungry. Break things.
Im kidding, How is the DSi by the way, are you going to do a kind of console review?
Cool story, bro.
Ridiculous!
People never cease to amaze me...
RoboCop is still one of my favorite movies!
Yes, it's violent as hell! I remember going to my friend's house(I was in the 5th grade I believe) and we'd watch it all the time! It was the most violent movie I had ever seen, up to that point! I couldn't believe it!
"I'll buy that for a dollar!"
Valkaria is some city in Florida...
Do you know what the grandma said to us both? She said, "I wouldn't ever let him have this game, but his mother told me to buy it for him, so here I am." What kind of answer is that? The kid had this stupid grin on his face after she said that, she bought the game and they were gone.
Now I don't think that the game will make the kid go psycho or anything. Heck, I watched R rated movies when I was kid and I played Mortal Kombat like every other young teenager did back in the day, and I turned out just fine. I just think that this kid obviously doesn't have enough parental control in his life is all, and I think that is the most dangerous aspect of the situation.
When I was a kid I rarely got any new games to play. When I did get something new, it was also something 'safe', like a Mario game, or Sonic, or a puzzle game. I was grateful as all heck too. Sure I spoil myself rotten now that I can buy my own stuff, but I appreciate everything I have. I don't think a kid like the one in this article will grow up to be thankful for much and it's sad because that's exactly the kind of person this world does not need.
His grandma and him actually ended up LAYING on the floor in front of the 360 games very fervently looking for a "KEWBIE" game.
When they failed, they decided to harass the employees, claiming "YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE KEWBIE OR YOUD HAVE KEWBIE GAMES!"
Gamestop is the strangest place in the mall...sigh.
Besides, Grand Theft Childhood also focused on the shared experiences that children have when playing "M-rated" games. Who the fuck goes to talk to his peers about Wii games? I for one only ever talked about them with girls in class who also had a Wii.
He does sound like a spoiled brat though. But a well-informed one at least.