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I couldn't stop laughing today at Gamestop...
Jonathan Holmes | 7:38 PM on 04.05.2009 59 comments




I was being a total ass, openly laughing at a family that was shopping for new 360/Wii/PSP games. There was just something about their situation that struck me as so...true. I guess a big reason for my glee is that I've long been of the opinion that more "E" rated games are best suited for adults, and most "M" rated games will be most appealing to children.

But I'm getting way ahead of myself.

So here was the scene; I'm standing in line waiting to pick up my DSi, along with Manhunt 2 (on sale for $20. I had to have it, just for the piece of history it represents) and Valkaria Chronicles (every one says the game is great, and it was on sale for $30, and what's $30 dollars of debt going to do to me?).

Behind me I hear a man and a woman bickering softly about which Wii game they should buy. The woman wants that new Wii Fit rip-off from EA (Active Life I think it's called?) and the man wants Metroid Prime 3. Probably looking for a tie breaker, the woman calls to who I assume is her son, who's lying on the floor, staring at the ceiling. He couldn't have been more than seven.

"Come look at the Wii games with us!" she says.

"WAAAAANGHHH!" replies the boy.

"360!"

He really yelled that last part, loud enough to get the whole store's attention. It was then that I noticed that he was lying next some 360 games. He really seemed in love with them.

"No no, Craig (I think that was his name), we're already getting two 360 games today. It's time to shop for Wii and PSP games now".

"Wuah...MOM! I want Resident Evil Fi-eive!" he whined, very serious. The man then whispers to the woman "No, we're already getting him Left 4 Dead and Halo 3. That's $120 dollars..."

"C'mon mom, I want Resident Evil Fiiiuuuuughhhhve!"

It's really hard for me to not start laughing at that point, so I tune out for a bit as to not make a scene. I see the kid running around with the Resident Evil 5 box, showing it to the man and woman on and off, clearly trying to sell them on the idea that they would love it. He also tries to get the guy (Glenn?) to buy the Left 4 Dead guide, saying something like "C'mon, pleeeeez? It's got the clues you need to beat the game!" His parents (if that's who they were) did not seem convinced.

Then the kid and the mom ended up right next to me at the front of the line. They were sifting through the UMDs, which I assume they thought were PSP games, but maybe they weren't that ignorant. It was hard to tell, especially after the exchange I witnessed next.

The kid said "I want this one!" picking up Aliens. The mom calls back to Glenn, who is now behind them in the PS3 section. "Glenn?" she says, "Is Aliens OK for Craig?"

"No no, it's not kiddie enough" says Glenn. At this point, I'm openly snickering through my nose, and the family seems to have taken notice. They don't seem to dare.

"OK, how about this one? The Terminator!" says mom.

"WAT? NO! That's OLD!" says the son.

"Oh, Ok, well how about a comedy?" chimes mom, pulling out Bewitched (starring Will Ferrel and Nicole Kidman).

The kid stares blankly.

"It's really, REALLY funny Craig..." mom says smiling.

Total failure.

"Alright" decides mom "We're getting this and we're leaving" pulling Robocop from the pile, getting behind me in line.

"I'm big enough to watch Aliens..." pouts Craig, clearly dissatisfied with mom's choice.

At that point I finally bought my stuff and left, but I'll be thinking for a long time about that family. Now I wasn't laughing at the family because I thought Craig had bad parents. I don't think that any of those "M" rated games and "R" rated movies are necessarily going to be bad for Craig. That kind of stuff would certainly bother some kids, but for others, I don't think it would affect them at all.

The fun part for me was seeing the adults be so interested in the "E" or "T" rated games and "PG" rated movies, and it was he kid that was all about the "M" and "R" rated shit. I've long thought that it was kids that really love scary, hardcore games, just like it was kids I grew up with who really loves bloody comic books, Freddy and Jason, etc. According to Grand Theft Childhood, the number one most popular game series with 12-14 year olds, male and female, is actually Grand Theft Auto I don't think Mario even made the list

Of course this was just one incident with one family, but still, it was both amusing and satisfying in a narcissistic way. I' say narcissistic because for me, it's the "M" rated games I'm into really speak to the most juvenile, pre-teen side of my personality (I'm looking at you, MadWorld), while it's games like Animal Crossing that it takes maturity for me to appreciate. This family's little squabble was not unlike the conversation I have with myself when deciding what to buy for myself. The kid in me wanted Manhunt 2, the adult in me wanted Valkaria Chronicles.

Anyway, enough about me, what do you guys think? Were they bad parents, or is Craig the luckiest kid on the planet?



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Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:38
Zombutler
I think what garison is trying to say is: The cow is gaming as an intelligent industry, the man is the family, and the cream is robocop(??).

I think.
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:41
Tony Ponce
I saw a kid once trying to beg his mom to get him 50 Cent, the original. I had to steer him away. He gives me this look and asks snarkily, "Why? Because it's M-rated?" I replied, "No, because it's total garbage."

But your story is cool as well.
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:45
de BLOO
Garison, WTF?

Anyway, I think kids(I am still one technically) love more R rated shit becuase we are told it is bad. We just want what we can't have. And besides,

As for adults I guess, since its not a problem for them to have it, they don't care what it is rated as long as it appeals to them.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:47
Kyle MacGregor
What a spoiled little brat.

I'm sorry but maybe it was because I didn't have the best financial situation growing up but I was lucky to get a game. This kid had a temper tantrum because he didn't get 3 games and a movie that he wanted?

I think up to the point I started buying my own systems/games (Gamecube) I got about 5 or 6 games a generation, usually for Christmas or my birthday, and my parents would take me to the Blockbuster once a month to rent something when they got a movie and popcorn, and I appreciated the hell out of it because I understood it was a privilege not a right.

Kids like this annoy me. But in reality I think its the parents fault. They were given a child who up until about the age he is today, is totally under their control and influence. Over the next few years he will be picking things up off his peers but right now he's influenced by them. They created a consumerism driven child that expects to get whatever he wants when he wants, regardless of how he acts.

I never thought beating children was a good thing. But I wonder what just couple times of pulling out the belt would do for some of these brats.
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:47
Vigor
I don't think they are bad parents,but they are completely oblivious to what they are buying the kid and how spoiled he is. I dont think I would let my kid play l4d or re5, but they will probably just end up playing it at a friends house anyway, so it really doesn't matter. Point of my post is that kids will always find a way to do what they want. But when he is your house you have the final say.
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:47
de BLOO
*ignore my "And besides,"
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:47
Jonathan Holmes
I love you guys.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:53
Chris Carter
I don't get it; so he got Left 4 Dead, and his parents wouldn't let him get Aliens?

While Craig didn't necessarily have bad parents, they do seem out of the loop when it comes to popular media, which is a huge problem with parents these days. They're too unattached from their kid's habits.

I think his choices are influenced by his environment, and the way he was raised. I know tons of kids growing up that would choose Animal Crossing every time over GTA4. Why? They were over-nurtured, and don't buy into fads.

I also know tons of kids who grew up in a bad area, and if you don't like GTA, you're a "fagot". It's entirely possible he may have been influenced by his group of friends, who in turn, were influenced by their parents/siblings/tough living arrangement.

I think it can go either way. M is appealing to some kids, E is to others.

I'm glad that when my wife and I have kids, I'll be able to pinpoint games. In fact, I'll be researching and playing some of the titles he/she may want. At 5 years old, some people may get their kids God of War III, after Sony promised there would be tons of sex scenes none the wiser.

By the way good pickups.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:55
Qraze
fuck the parents? wut? fuck gamestop for letting them buy the godam game knowing who's gonna play it! back in the day if i wanted a 12-pack of beer and was underage, i couldn't go in with whoever was buying it because they would'nt sell it with me standing there.

fuck gamestop for letting them buy it for a kid, they damn well could hear the conversation and still the kid gets a pass. if i were behind the counter i would not have sold it to them and told them to go elsewhere or buy something appropriate.
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 20:57
Technophile
I dunno, I'm of the mind that when the kid can act like an adult in a public place then he can get the games/movies that are meant for adults.

Lying on the floor of a gamestop like it's his personal playpen and screaming at the top of his lungs while the parents lackadaisically wander around the store ignoring him like there is nothing wrong with that is what irritates me more then anything.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:03
Aaron Mxy Yost
Wow, you paid money for Manhunt 2?
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:13
Monodi
I still find annoying how a lot of M-rated games get acceded to blatantly under-aged kids and there are more being made for the fad and to keep milking out of kids like this.

I am sorry, i am very conservative about this stuff and take the ratings like the most serious shit ever.

When I have kids I will give them strictly what I find appropriate and also fun, maybe I will let them have M-rated games by the age of 13 or so, even still M-rated games are for people over 17, there are many games that are too absurd for being considered that huge.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:14
aborto thefetus
I don't have a problem with the parents buying the kid those games. I do however think that kid sounds like a complete cunt-nugget and am angry at those parents for letting that kid loose on the internet on L4D. That, and he sounds like this annoying kid I used to babysit.
seigfreid's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:24
seigfreid
People will hate him so much on L4D. I would just shoot him if I got in a game with him and swear so loud over the mic, his parents would hear and take that game away.
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:25
grafkhun
holy shit that wedge of moldy cheese got 2 fucking full-priced 60 shebang games and a UMD movie from his parents one the same day for no apparent reason!? holy christmas get-batman-some-wool-socks that is some crazy shit right there. When I was a tyke I had to buy everything I wanted, I could buy anything, as long as I paid for it. Hell if I bought a hooker for a weekend and I paid for her my parents would of let me, it's my money. But this whiny creature... geez.

That is funny though how the kid wants the M rated games and the parent the E and T rated ones. But seriously, 2 games! Throughout my life my parents have boughten me like 8 games I think, all of them on holiday's or as presents most likely as well. Maybe it's because as a kid my family was always short on money, still kind of am, and that's why every time I buy a game it's a big deal to me.

Ok, whoah sorry, got way off topic there. Anyways, I have a similar story I'd like to share as well. At target (or was it toys 'r us?) there was a kid at the register already. his brother was getting a game, but he couldn't decide on what to get. I'm just browsing the shelves by the way, I think I was looking for a game but I forgot which. Anyways, the mom asks the cashier for suggestions, he offers Super Mario Sunshine, a great fit, the kids like 12 or so probably. But I forget what he said exaclty, but I think he just shook his head and said he wanted Ghost Recon or something... WHAT? when I was 12, I played 12 year old games.
Joanna Mueller's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:29
Joanna Mueller
@QRAZE It's not Gamestop's job to raise their kid for them. I've worked Toys 'R Us and had to send kids away when they wanted to buy an M rated game before only to have their parents either come storming in or call up screaming at me for not selling their kid the game.

Evidently they found it inconvenient that I should care at all what their minor children were buying. I enjoyed pissing them off because I hated my job so I kept up with sending the kids away again and again, but if I would've refused to sell a game to an adult I'd have likely been fired because that's throwing away money and retail stores frown on that.

Don't blame the poor counter jockey. They have enough of their own problems without having to police the gaming habits of every kid in the world.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:29
Jonathan Holmes
@ Magnalon- Yeah, that's what was cracking me up! Aliens was "kiddie" enough, but Left 4 Dead was fine, not to mention the movie the mom picked out for the kid; RoboCop.

Have you seen RoboCop? It's one of the most brutally violent movies I ever remember seeing as a kid. The main character, the guy you identify with, gets really brutally killed with in the first twenty minutes. I remember his hand getting blown off as one of the grossest movie moments EVAR.

@ Mxyz- Yeah, I know, I'm retarded. I haven't played the game yet, but I know it's going to be awful.

I also paid $5 for the Catwoman game. I hate a track record for buying crap, but sometimes I just can't say no.

@ Everyone saying the parents were jackasses- You know, I'm not sure what has a good or bad effect on kids, so I'm going to stay out of it.

Every twenty five years standards on that completely change. I know that 100 years ago, people would have looked at five minutes of Mtv, and deemed the whole channel to be pornographic devil television capable of turning any child into a hell spawwn. And maybe they'd be right; I just don't know.

People are still figuring out what hurts kids and what doesn't. I agree with anyone who'd rather not take chances with showing their kids something that might disturb them, but I'm not 100% sure that violent games and movies are always that harmful.

I figure it depends on the kid, and how sensitive they are. But again, I don't know, so I'm shutting up now.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:29
Occams electric toothbrush
So when I was thirteen, I went to this garage sale with my mom. I'm browsing around and I see this stack of Playboys in a box for $5. There had to be at least thirty Playboys in that box. Of course I didn't have $5 and it wasn't really viable to steal them so I asked my mom to buy them for me (isisting that I just wanted to read the articles). Of course she laughed at me and said no. Looking back, I can understand why she said no. I almost regret hitting her with a hammer later that day. Almost.
Covertpoet's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:33
Covertpoet
I am a gamer (21 years old) that enjoys both the GTA moments of life and the Animal Crossings,

And wow those parents really need to be educated in how to shop for there kid, if i ever acted like that in a store growing up, you be sure the only thing I'll be getting is some sore hind quarters,:)
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:44
Chris Carter
I actually have bad memories of Robocop. When I was 8, I trespassed in some abandoned building with some friends. Someone called the cops on us, and the police escorted us home.

Nothing happened, but my Dad ran me right up to my room and was pissed; he told me not to watch TV. I turned on the TV and watched Robocop, haha. What a great movie.
bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 21:54
bottled dark
craig's lucky

i just watched Robocop yesterday, he shoots a dude in the balls!

also... there's a Left 4 Dead guide? Why?
SuperMonk4Ever's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:00
SuperMonk4Ever
Wow... just wow.

Psh, I was lucky enough to get one game when I was little. Anyways, I hated violence when I was a child. The mere sight of a gun made me cry. Yes, I know, I was a little pansy back then. When I was around his age, I was more than excited to play Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, and all the classic Nintendo games.

I actually do prefer to play cartoony, un-realistic games, such as Katamari Damacy, Castle Crashers, and Super Smash Bros. I am not saying I do not however enjoy the major M-Rated games the 360 has to offer. I would buy my kid Halo 3, but that is one of the only M-rated titles I would buy for him. Left 4 Dead? Resident Evil 5? Fuck that.

I do agree a child will go over to a friend's house to play it, but that is still better than buying it for your child. I want to smack some sense into parents that bought their childeren GTA IV, Left 4 Dead, or Resident Evil 5... god, that is just horrible. That would bother me, as a child, for a while.
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:08
gatorsax2010
First off, I agree with Techno. I personally wouldn't find young Mr. Craig mature enough to handle any of that stuff--mature being the operative word. It's not about age. I don't want to say I was sheltered, but my parents were very careful about what they'd let me see/play, and I turned out fine, I think. In fact, I was never really interested in "mature" games until I was getting closer to 17 anyway. I think I'm kind of like Holmes in my tastes, anyway. If you look at my favorite games, it's a lot of E rated stuff, with some T thrown in. Not to say I don't like M-rated games, either--I love Metal Gear Solid and Bioshock, for example. But I would consider a game like Super Metroid or most Zelda games "mature" in their own way. But now it looks like I'm going into Nintendo defense mode, which I obviously don't need to do here.

Also, @ Seigfried:

I can just see you finding him in L4D:
"Are you Craig? ARE YOU CRAIG???!!! I'LL SHOW YOU MATURE!"

Also also,

ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:14
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@Bottled

BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU CLUES!

There are guides for the shittiest of games, prima would sell you a guide on how to slice bread if there were a market for it.
HydroTonix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:21
HydroTonix
I once tryed to convince a man to buy mario galaxy instead of carnival games. His response: "I think he played it at his cousins for five minutes." Hmmph.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:21
pedrovay2003
I agree with Juggernaut. It's not that he'd be a worse kid for playing Halo 3 or Left 4 Dead... We're all just worse off because of it. :P
ThunderHeartXI's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:35
ThunderHeartXI
I wish my parents would drop unbelievable amounts of money on video games.
greks224's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 22:54
greks224
Hahahaha. Funny story. Totally true though. I feel like such a grown-up when I enjoy the least violent games.
norm9's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:04
norm9
Good story. What's the boy's friend code?
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:05
DaedHead8
I actually have a positive gamestop story to tell. I was browsing the gamecube section there a few years ago and a kid of about 8 was there with his mom. He really wanted RE4 but his mom said maybe when you're older, the kid wasn't happy but he took it well. Next he picked up some licensed platformer I can't remember and started to leave the store. I stopped them and told them they would be disappointed with that purchase and asked if he had Mario Sunshine. They said yes so I recommended Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg. The kid looked at the box for a second and asked me if it was fun. I told him I hadn't but I had heard great things. He looked at it again for a second before telling his mom that was the one he wanted. It made me feel pretty good.
seigfreid's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:11
seigfreid
@Daedhead8 Nice story. I love it when you recommend an awesome game to somebody. Makes you feel good.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:13
ChronosWing
@Daedhead

Until he got home and realized was a pos that game is and wish he had never listened to some geeks advice in a gamestop. ;P
Brad Nicholson's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:16
Brad Nicholson
I heard people were talking shit about Robocop.

... I am displeased.

My muscles, they are bulging. Hungry. Break things.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:29
adultswim810
this just made me want to harm small children
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:35
pascuz46
I think the funniest part of this article was the fact he admitted he was buying a DSi...I mean! WHAT A CHILDISH TOY! RA ha ha ha ha ha!

Im kidding, How is the DSi by the way, are you going to do a kind of console review?
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:41
Corak
Good story, you go to get your DSi and you get a memory that'll last a lifetime. I wouldn't call them bad parents just out of touch. They would rather get the kid something rather than hear him scream. That my friends is American parenting at its finest, or as I call it lazy parenting. There were plenty of times when I was a kid, that when I wanted something and didn't get it I'm sure I threw some kinda fit, and you know what? I still didn't get it. In fact I was less likely to get something if I did that. How is this kid going to be later in life when he doesn't get something he wants? Will he be violent? Will he scream and cry? I see it every day. People feel they are entitled to something just because.
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 23:52
Cataract
So you see parents who are gamers trying to get something for them and their son and are unsure of themselves, and instead of stepping in and helping them out since you obviously know a thing or two, you just stand by and let them be confused. Is that the gist of it?

Cool story, bro.
Artemus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 00:06
Artemus
A ha ha!
Ridiculous!
People never cease to amaze me...

RoboCop is still one of my favorite movies!
Yes, it's violent as hell! I remember going to my friend's house(I was in the 5th grade I believe) and we'd watch it all the time! It was the most violent movie I had ever seen, up to that point! I couldn't believe it!

"I'll buy that for a dollar!"
Atlas's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 01:14
Atlas
Valkyria Chronicles, meng.


Valkaria is some city in Florida...
thinkfreemind's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 02:00
thinkfreemind
It reminds me of when GTA:VC was being released. I went to the store first thing in the morning to buy my copy and there were a bunch of other people in the store as well. This little kid and his grandma were in front of me in line and the GS employee did the right thing to inform the grandma what was in the game. I chimed in as well that even I didn't think it was necessarily a game a kid his age should be playing, to which the kid was giving us both the evil eye.

Do you know what the grandma said to us both? She said, "I wouldn't ever let him have this game, but his mother told me to buy it for him, so here I am." What kind of answer is that? The kid had this stupid grin on his face after she said that, she bought the game and they were gone.

Now I don't think that the game will make the kid go psycho or anything. Heck, I watched R rated movies when I was kid and I played Mortal Kombat like every other young teenager did back in the day, and I turned out just fine. I just think that this kid obviously doesn't have enough parental control in his life is all, and I think that is the most dangerous aspect of the situation.

When I was a kid I rarely got any new games to play. When I did get something new, it was also something 'safe', like a Mario game, or Sonic, or a puzzle game. I was grateful as all heck too. Sure I spoil myself rotten now that I can buy my own stuff, but I appreciate everything I have. I don't think a kid like the one in this article will grow up to be thankful for much and it's sad because that's exactly the kind of person this world does not need.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 02:19
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This is why I hate shopping for games.
nebones's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 02:29
nebones
fivvvvvvvve
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 03:50
themizarkshow
This is why I shop at weird hours of the day/night. People should be required to get a license before they can have children. Kids like that are the reason why gaming gets a bad rep when they grow up to kill the bullies at school.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 03:58
TheToiletDuck
Get two, i'm not sharing with Caitlyn
Matthew Razak's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 06:44
Matthew Razak
I want to know where they got all the monies.
Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 08:08
Count Grishnack
To everyone saying "I was lucky to get one game": Shut it, you sound like my grandpa who had to walk ten miles in the snow to school. Uphill.
nukka jdav's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 09:58
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At my Gamestop here in Missoula, there once was a 7 year old dressed as King Dedede, who obviously didn't know who he was dressed as.

His grandma and him actually ended up LAYING on the floor in front of the 360 games very fervently looking for a "KEWBIE" game.

When they failed, they decided to harass the employees, claiming "YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE KEWBIE OR YOUD HAVE KEWBIE GAMES!"

Gamestop is the strangest place in the mall...sigh.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 10:49
Maurice Tan
Haha, yeah I don't get why you just didn't tell them about the games instead. But L4D/RE5/Halo 3 don't sound like horrible games for a kid to me. Better to let him grow up with an idea of what a fun game is, than to make him sit through Animal Crossing or something like that.

Besides, Grand Theft Childhood also focused on the shared experiences that children have when playing "M-rated" games. Who the fuck goes to talk to his peers about Wii games? I for one only ever talked about them with girls in class who also had a Wii.

He does sound like a spoiled brat though. But a well-informed one at least.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 11:45
Naim Master
Everbody here is a hypocrite asshole , talking about how kids shouldn't play Halo 3 or M rated games , we don't seen to remember playing Mortal Kombat ...
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