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I don't understand preordering titles that will sell over 3 million copies. I'm sorry, but are you afraid you won't get yours?
Preorder something like Sakura Wars, Bit.Trip Collection or the Last Story.
Do you want to put $5 down on MW3? NO. You'll have 30 copies in the back. Even if you sell out, the Gamestop right next DOOR will have 30 copies as well!
The only game I've preordered this year is Once Upon A Monster. Because it FUCKING deserves it.
Also typos Holmesy my boy?
Preorder something like Sakura Wars, Bit.Trip Collection or the Last Story.
Do you want to put $5 down on MW3? NO. You'll have 30 copies in the back. Even if you sell out, the Gamestop right next DOOR will have 30 copies as well!
The only game I've preordered this year is Once Upon A Monster. Because it FUCKING deserves it.
Also typos Holmesy my boy?
Cool blog dawg. Nah, but seriously, I hate being called 'dawg'. As far as gaming goes, am I the only one that enjoys ALL types of games? I mean, literally, any category if well made, will bring a smile to my face. Demon souls is my favorite of this gen, oblivion a close second, but for some reason I always go back to a good multiplayer shooter. To me, multiplayer military shooters are best in short sessions. An hour at most, with most sessions lasting 30 to 45 mins. I love my games, like I love my food, the more variety the better!
You speak the truth Holmes. Nothing wrong with a little FPS action, but do we really need so many? Even if all you want out of games is to just shoot a bunch of strangers, why not do it in a fun and interesting environment with lots of flavour like TF2?
I only pre-order games that I really care about. Zelda and Mario get my pre-orders all the time and if something like Dark Souls comes along (where the Collector's Edition is no extra cost, but pre-order only), then I do that too. Otherwise, what's the point? I can always find the game.
I dont know I like various experiences including the bro shooters. I am fully ok with people ignoring them in favor of something else but I am not ok with people saying they should not exist. Everyone has their likes and dislikes and want certain and different experiences and some people prefer bro shooters. Though the term bro shooters is misused frequently. Many people still consider Uncharted a bro shooter when it is its own beast. I hope the drake's killer clowns mode exists in Uncharted 3 like the rumors say. Any way are you excited for twisted metal Holms? Jaffe seems to share your opinion if you have seen his recent interviews. I am soo game when that comes out.
Wrenchfarm: who cares as long as they are good games? and you can just ignore them and buy something else if they dont suit your taste.
I think we're at the point where we have just about enough modern combat type FPS games. I'm ok with, "there's the enemy, here's a gun, start shooting." For a while, I was fed up with WWII games and outright refused to play World at War when it first came out. Now, I'm getting fed up with the modernized combat idea. The only reason I think Battlefield 3 might be an exception is the extreme realism the game provides.
I don't know, dude. When I first got my PS3 I was pretty disappointed in many hyped titles (CoDs, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God of War, etc), but I've been able to enjoy the occasional FPS or blockbuster style game. I think there's space for pretty much every type of game. But the really popular stuff will always be more simple/shallow/etc, not only in videogames.
Oh yea Holms if you want to support these games you better buy the shit out of Gravity Daze, Sound Shapes, Touch my Katamari, Army Corps of Hell, or Escape plan so more of them are created on the vita. I sure am. Oh it seems Prappa the Rapper might also return. http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/27/parappa-the-rapper-could-return-via-new-business-models-or-vita/ So it seems to me that there are plenty of those types of games.
So instead of shooting people over and over and over again... you shoot aliens over and over and over again. I totally see a difference here. But it's cool that you can judge entire groups of gamers like that.
*and people wonder why Sheppy primarily just board games now...*
I've NEVER heard a gamer shit on a store clerk like that about how all everyone ever plays Settlers of Catan...
*and people wonder why Sheppy primarily just board games now...*
I've NEVER heard a gamer shit on a store clerk like that about how all everyone ever plays Settlers of Catan...
Isn't that Aliens Infestation about shooting too?!? HOLMES IS A HIPPO CRIT!
For reals, though, I agree. Too many guns goin' around. Needs more swords.
For reals, though, I agree. Too many guns goin' around. Needs more swords.
At my local Gamestop there’s two people behind the counter, one is a cool English guy who excitedly chats to me about whatever game I’m getting and even rang other nearby Gamestops to secure me a copy of NMH: Hero’s Paradise while gushing about Desperate Struggle, the other is a very slow moving grumpy guy who said Shadows of the Dammed is shit because “it just is” and dyes his hair black even though it’sclearly already black. Guess whose queue I always line up in.
It’s kind of sad that the reason people are preordering Battlefield and why it has so many fanboys willing to argue against MW is literally because EA told them “This game is great and you want it”, I wish they’d put that marketing behind something like Mirrors Edge or a game that “deserves” mainstream attention like Mass Effect.
It’s kind of sad that the reason people are preordering Battlefield and why it has so many fanboys willing to argue against MW is literally because EA told them “This game is great and you want it”, I wish they’d put that marketing behind something like Mirrors Edge or a game that “deserves” mainstream attention like Mass Effect.
I'm not sure I buy it (the blog, not the game). Well, I kind of buy it. I usually eschew most shooters, especially military ones, but in Battlefield 2 I found a surprisingly intense, careful game with a better focus on teamwork to counter the unforgiving (and realistic) damage levels. In particular, I'm hoping Battlefield 3 gives me that same kind of teamwork I liked.
Of course, I'll only be playing it if I can pry myself away from Dark Souls and Spacechem.
Of course, I'll only be playing it if I can pry myself away from Dark Souls and Spacechem.
Holmes, I think you overanalyzed this a lil. The dawg over there at Gamestop was just offering what the store is promoting at the moment, since they are promoting BF3 that's what he'll try to sell you. Maybe that guy enjoys other games as well, but he's just doing his job. Anyways, cool story Holmes.
@ sheppy- You're almost getting the irony, but not really.
And where did I ever judge a group of gamers? Or when did I shit on a store clerk? Typo, or overreaction?
My bet is overreaction!
And where did I ever judge a group of gamers? Or when did I shit on a store clerk? Typo, or overreaction?
My bet is overreaction!
hahahahahaha
Oh Holmes, keep on keeping on. You're fighting the good fight, even if you are destined to lose in the end. Publishers will continue churning out Modern Battlewarfare games until they stop making insane profits, and that doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon. Still, one can hope!
Oh Holmes, keep on keeping on. You're fighting the good fight, even if you are destined to lose in the end. Publishers will continue churning out Modern Battlewarfare games until they stop making insane profits, and that doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon. Still, one can hope!
Holmes, I am on your side! Ha! I'm just saying the guy is not gonna be all like "would you like to reserve Kirby's Ultra Mega Sky Dimensions?", he's going by popular demand sadly. I know from experience, when I have to tell every customer "wanna reserve MW3?", even though I don't want to. I'm tired of everyone who just talks about these types of games, when there are plenty other good games coming out.
You know what I just realized? I probably couldn't tell the difference between any of these shooty games like Call of Modern Battlefield or whatever. The closest I've played was Halo 3 and that at least had a sci-fi theme going for it. If I wanted military in my life I'd have stayed in it.
And besides, I play video games to get away from people. Pure escapism and all that. It's basically my sensory deprivation tank, where I can shut off my brain and become Batman or Commander Shepard for a while, without having to deal with others. So yeah, the multiplayer thing defeats my purpose anyway.
Also, I didn't know we had legitimate spoiler tags in the C-blogs. Whoo!
And besides, I play video games to get away from people. Pure escapism and all that. It's basically my sensory deprivation tank, where I can shut off my brain and become Batman or Commander Shepard for a while, without having to deal with others. So yeah, the multiplayer thing defeats my purpose anyway.
Also, I didn't know we had legitimate spoiler tags in the C-blogs. Whoo!
Man, I hope they didn't treat you so rudely because of your disability. Put that eye patch back on, shit on that store clerk, and be a high seas pirate.
To be fair the corporate overlords wave preorders over GS employees like a stupid quota to meet. In the ubiquitous quota you are lied to and told the more pre-orders and trade-ins processed, the more hours that store will get.
This is a lie, of course. They never see more hours for either. Hours are doled out by corporate on a whim. Usually not much hours save for the holidays.
I have a real job, so I tell people about the other games, don't bother with the pre-orders of Battlefield and such and enjoy my discount while selling Okami or dark souls and such.
I'm more about getting people what they want than peddling Game Informer and pushing Uncharted down your throat.
Well, if they gave me hours, anyway.
This is a lie, of course. They never see more hours for either. Hours are doled out by corporate on a whim. Usually not much hours save for the holidays.
I have a real job, so I tell people about the other games, don't bother with the pre-orders of Battlefield and such and enjoy my discount while selling Okami or dark souls and such.
I'm more about getting people what they want than peddling Game Informer and pushing Uncharted down your throat.
Well, if they gave me hours, anyway.
Personally, I have completely given up on Gamestop and now only use Amazon. No tax and 99 cent release day shipping trumps tax and being asked about reserving random games. Plus, I hate their policies.
Random Gamestop story, when Bioshock came out, I didn't bother reserving it because, its Bioshock right? They will have copies I assumed. I went to pick it up on release day, and the clerk told me they were sold out. He then proceeded to tell me that I should have reserved it. I then drove to the Wal-Mart across the street and found tons of copies. Jack asses.
Random Gamestop story, when Bioshock came out, I didn't bother reserving it because, its Bioshock right? They will have copies I assumed. I went to pick it up on release day, and the clerk told me they were sold out. He then proceeded to tell me that I should have reserved it. I then drove to the Wal-Mart across the street and found tons of copies. Jack asses.
You trying to be all superior and uppity? You are simply some hipster wannabe
looking down on gamers who play games you feel are not good.
Go play your games, baldy and we'll play ours.
looking down on gamers who play games you feel are not good.
Go play your games, baldy and we'll play ours.
They still say "dawg" in Mass?
...
Well...having grown up in Connecticut, I can actually see that being a thing still.
I recant.
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Well...having grown up in Connecticut, I can actually see that being a thing still.
I recant.
This whole blog took a piss in my cereal, Rong. All i read from this is,"mainstream games are bad"
Really, just because people like FPS'es like BF3, you get on a high horse denouncing those games
while crying" why you no buy gaems i like?? Industry is teh doomed"
It just smacks of elitist bullshit.
Really, just because people like FPS'es like BF3, you get on a high horse denouncing those games
while crying" why you no buy gaems i like?? Industry is teh doomed"
It just smacks of elitist bullshit.
@Tek - Did you just seriously legit troll Holmes?
Aren't there provisions in the Geneva Conventions against this sort of thing?
Protocol I Articles 51 and 54 clearly outlaw indiscriminate attacks upon civilian populations and Jonathan Holmes.
Aren't there provisions in the Geneva Conventions against this sort of thing?
Protocol I Articles 51 and 54 clearly outlaw indiscriminate attacks upon civilian populations and Jonathan Holmes.
You know what, i am going to be serious for a bit and call out this ridiculous
pigeonhole mentality gamers love doing. Like calling IOS games anything but games
and those who play it non-gamers. They are games and they are gamers. Just like
there's nothing wrong with FPS games selling in stores. Stop making gaming some exclusive
clubhouse.
pigeonhole mentality gamers love doing. Like calling IOS games anything but games
and those who play it non-gamers. They are games and they are gamers. Just like
there's nothing wrong with FPS games selling in stores. Stop making gaming some exclusive
clubhouse.
@rev
If being disagreeable and somewhat annoyed by the tone of this blog.
Or just by the fact that I am simply disagreeing with Holmes constitute trolling, then
you just inteprete it as such. I may have came off angry and insulting but that's because
i feel this blog is insulting to me personally.
If being disagreeable and somewhat annoyed by the tone of this blog.
Or just by the fact that I am simply disagreeing with Holmes constitute trolling, then
you just inteprete it as such. I may have came off angry and insulting but that's because
i feel this blog is insulting to me personally.
I preordered Battlefield 3 because of the free extra multiplayer maps. I will be giving it a fair shake of the stick, but if it doesn't float my boat then I will be trading it in.
I totally respect that games such as Battlefield 3 are anathema to you, Holmes. It all appears so derivative and trite. However, I'm going to give Battlefield 3 the benefit of the doubt that it may be an atmospheric and gripping, if not totally original, experience.
I totally respect that games such as Battlefield 3 are anathema to you, Holmes. It all appears so derivative and trite. However, I'm going to give Battlefield 3 the benefit of the doubt that it may be an atmospheric and gripping, if not totally original, experience.
I know Jonathan. It really makes me sick to have the Gamestop clerk asking me if I want to preorder Call of Duty Warfare battlefield of Halo Gears. I mean do I look like some frat boy moron? Does he think I'd let myself be dumb by playing garbage?
I like your stand "DEPRESSING! I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT!"
If only these mouthbreathers would give other games a chance but they won't. They'll be happy wasting gaming potential and shooting each other online and being the morons that they are.
I like your stand "DEPRESSING! I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT!"
If only these mouthbreathers would give other games a chance but they won't. They'll be happy wasting gaming potential and shooting each other online and being the morons that they are.
@Holmes,
The jist of your article was basically slamming an entire genre of games you don't enjoy because it's wasted potential in video games. That these vacuous experiences evoke no thought or expansion of a persons feelings. That these games are overhyped and over advertised and frankly, shouldn't exist. Which, if that's ALL the video game industry is, you have a point...
But it's not. These "popcorn" experiences for people exist because they sell. Like Transformers, it's this crap that finances the other games like Syndicate and the return of NFL Blitz. So if you TRULY enjoy these other games, the arthouse of video gaming, essentially, you'll sit down, shut up, and let Ubi make their Assassins Creed cash because, while I agree Child of Eden is a great game and an experience, you and I are one of the 3 people who actually bought the game.
Just keep this in mind. Without Twisted Metal, SOCOM, and God of War, there would be no Shadow of the Collosus. So if Transformers 3 is what is needed so that Hugo can be made, let the people have their giant robot fights. We reap the benefits of that hot cash injection.
The jist of your article was basically slamming an entire genre of games you don't enjoy because it's wasted potential in video games. That these vacuous experiences evoke no thought or expansion of a persons feelings. That these games are overhyped and over advertised and frankly, shouldn't exist. Which, if that's ALL the video game industry is, you have a point...
But it's not. These "popcorn" experiences for people exist because they sell. Like Transformers, it's this crap that finances the other games like Syndicate and the return of NFL Blitz. So if you TRULY enjoy these other games, the arthouse of video gaming, essentially, you'll sit down, shut up, and let Ubi make their Assassins Creed cash because, while I agree Child of Eden is a great game and an experience, you and I are one of the 3 people who actually bought the game.
Just keep this in mind. Without Twisted Metal, SOCOM, and God of War, there would be no Shadow of the Collosus. So if Transformers 3 is what is needed so that Hugo can be made, let the people have their giant robot fights. We reap the benefits of that hot cash injection.
@sheppy
But Holmes is right. We have been bombarded with these mindless, derivative games that it has overtaken more worthier and better games. It galls me to see every month a COD game still selling when games like Child of Eden just wither and die.
This is what's wrong with gaming now. Gamers have become so dumbed down that they reach for games with lots of explosions but no meaningful content. This should be a wake up call. These so-called gamers should be called out for allowing the dumbing down of the gaming world. FPS'ses should stop before it ruins gaming as a whole.. I applaud Holmes for telling it like it is.
But Holmes is right. We have been bombarded with these mindless, derivative games that it has overtaken more worthier and better games. It galls me to see every month a COD game still selling when games like Child of Eden just wither and die.
This is what's wrong with gaming now. Gamers have become so dumbed down that they reach for games with lots of explosions but no meaningful content. This should be a wake up call. These so-called gamers should be called out for allowing the dumbing down of the gaming world. FPS'ses should stop before it ruins gaming as a whole.. I applaud Holmes for telling it like it is.
Your examples are full of poo and fail, the medium needs to advance towards deeper opaque game mechanics and more difficulty.
Your examples are full of poo and fail, the medium needs to advance towards deeper opaque game mechanics and more difficulty. At a certain point, games have turned into a shooting gallery of bigger explosions, easy access, and holding your hand. I can't deal with that. I need a tough game to validate myself as a person. Japan is our only hope for this sort of stuff.
That said, if a new Katamari with half the old levels and half new levels comes out, I'm totally buying that.
That said, if a new Katamari with half the old levels and half new levels comes out, I'm totally buying that.
Yeah, I agree a lot Holmes, it seems a shame that more isn't being done with the capabilities of today's consoles. I'd love to see somebody take the capacity of the PS3 or 360 and instead of attempting to put 200 people on screen at once or make the screen explode just use it to make one room, maybe two actors (or something equally minimalist), and create a really moving, touching, gaming experience with just that; because I really think that'd be much more of a challenge and more interesting than what most developers are doing atm.
One of these days I'm going to walk into a video game store and the store clerk is going to say:
"Yo dawg, did you pre-order your copy of Beyond Good and Evil 2 ey".
On that day, everything will be alright! :-D
"Yo dawg, did you pre-order your copy of Beyond Good and Evil 2 ey".
On that day, everything will be alright! :-D
@ Panzadolphin56- That sounds really interesting. Someday, when games are much cheaper to develop, I hope someone does that. I bet they will.
@ kidplus- I think you missed the irony too. I failed to make the irony good. Sorry for the irony fail!
@ Tekmagik- Stop playing the victim, dawg! It's a bad look for you.
@ kidplus- I think you missed the irony too. I failed to make the irony good. Sorry for the irony fail!
@ Tekmagik- Stop playing the victim, dawg! It's a bad look for you.
I totally feel you. When I walk in it's usually something along the lines of "You looking for a gift? How about (insert shooter here)!". Fuck you, and no.
