In my last post that went up about 8 minutes ago I talked about attending PAX and gave some info on myself as I feel any first post should do, I mean how can judge someone if you don't know what qualities they have, and which qualities you should make fun of.
This post is what I really wanted to talk about from PAX. I attended the "How to make gaming communities suck less" panel because I thought it sounded like something that would be entertaining. Mind you I don't really read a lot of the information that is presented to me and I skimmed over the part that said who would be attending. I didn't know it was just going to be the guys from DToid. I was impressed by most of the content that was covered in the panel and thought that the open questions were what was really useful, even the stuff that I would normally bash on because it's not holding to topic. This would include the impromptu Happy Birthday celebration.
What I wanted to talk about in the post and what I wanted to ask in my question, which was not asked in front of the audience because of time restrictions is this:
How do you bring gamers into your community who are jaded from other communities and the typical bullshit that goes on in those worlds?
And
How do you bring those same people into a community that is already established?
To be honest the internet is a scary place to go out into alone. Trolls, smacktards, douche bags, viral marketing that isn't viral, and those goddamn Envoy ads. Personally I have visited destructoid a few times, normally for HAWP stuff but DToid is one of those websites that keeps coming back into the limited communities that I am in. I visit can't find anything that really interests me without fully joining the community and then leave. A cycle which repeats itself on many websites. Mainly it revolves around the fact of: Why should I waste my time with this group and how is that going to be any different than the last forum that I was on.
I don't really have any solutions on the first question, that something that almost has to be driven by the community in my opinion and it has to come from a mature enough community, to foster the outreach to the shunned masses.
The second question is a little bit more interesting for me personally. Even when you get into a forum/community and you want to participate how do you do that when everyone already knows each other and already has set implied rules. If you have a really great community it can be self aware enough to know that it has to shelter these new people and get them up to speed. Some form of mentoring or just not a focus on keeping the group a clique.
I can understand how this happens, believe me. To over generalize though, and mind you I include myself in this group, most nerds want to feel included in a group. What we need to do is to remember that there are those that are out there that were like us and find them and bring them in. To this point I would suggest some kind of mentoring program for older community members to guide newer community members. They would show them the limits of what to talk about and maybe some stuff to shy away from and explain some of the insider things that go on, so that when someone makes an inside joke as a response to a new persons question the new person isn't totally lost.
Just my opinions those, would like to hear what you all have to say.
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That pretty much does happen...over a course of time. It's unrealistic to just show up one convention and expect people to automatically like you, they don't know anything about you man.
Also, lol at the end. Talking through personal experience? :P
Whether it be cordial members, or angry flamers, they'll get their advice :D
What I am mainly concerned about is the stereotypical CS:S or Halo gamer everyone thinks of, you know the kid on the mic who never shuts up. At some point he is going to get a little older and maybe grow out of that phase, O good Lord please. But how do we bring people like that, the next video game generation, into the fold in a positive and encouraging way? While not trying to stifle their personality and make them conform to our model.
I think Dtoid as a whole is pretty lax on requiring you to be a certain way to fit in. All you have to do is not suck. Everything else will be pointed out to you along the way.
I don't think that there's an easy way to fast-track the new member assimilation, and I don't necessarily think that there should be. Becoming a member of a community should involve some time and effort on the part of the newcomer or else you don't gain a vested interest, and you end up with a half-assed assortment of people.
However, it would be very nice to have some sort of archive of community significant posts or memes or what have you so that the new guy has somewhere to look when they don't get the inside joke. What if all of the 'topsauce'd featured articles were tagged as such and could be easily searched through? What if users could vote articles into some sort of new-comer introductory archive?
I certainly don't mean that there should be some sort of mandatory reading before you're allowed to be part of the community, but it would definitely be nice to have somewhere to turn to when you just don't get the reference to past works.