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Whither The LAN And The Bots?
John B | 10:20 PM on 04.05.2011 7 comments


For more than ten years, some friends of mine and I have gotten together every Friday night – as much as the Internet allows – to do some first-person gaming. We’ve reached a point where if we don’t have our gaming sessions on Friday nights, the night feels odd. Even our wives know that Friday night is our gaming and we’re not to be disturbed. (We’re married and have kids, so we have no idea what a weekend social life is anyway.) Thanks to Hamachi and Ventrilo, one of us plays as the server (usually me because my PC is the beefiest and I have a symmetrical 25Mb Verizon FiOS connection) and we play as a LAN game.

Unfortunately, we’ve been restricted with respect to the selection of games that we want to play. In this world where human-versus-human multiplayer is the de facto standard, we find that more and more game developers are opting to remove the venerable bot.

To the unknowing, a “bot” is nothing more than a computer-controlled AI character, exactly like those would would otherwise find within the single-player campaign of most first-person shooters. The main difference is that bots are used to fill in the missing members of a multiplayer team. They can fight with you, against you, or even against each other depending on what team they’re on.

Unfortunately, the majority of modern first-person shooters, especially tactical shooters, have dropped bots entirely in favor of forcing human-versus-human multiplayer. We always play in co-op assault mode with the three of us against an AI army. As a result, we’re forced to stick with the aged Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six Vegas, and Rainbow Six Vegas 2, with the first-generation Rainbow Six series relegated to history.

These are by no means bad games; however, after more than ten years of being restricted to the same few games running a “terrorist hunt” mode, we often find ourselves looking for a new game to satiate our desire for some co-op gameplay against an articficial enemy. Although a lot of those games to exist, most tend to bring on motion sickness, as happens to one of my friends if we try something like Unreal Tournament 3 or the Star Wars: Battlefront series.

Where have the co-op bots gone?

One of the excuses that I often hear for their disappearance is that it’s very difficult to program bots. I find that difficult to believe because that’s exactly what is happening during a single-player campaign, except that you are a one-man team instead of a multi-person team. When the enemy detects you, they attack. This is no different in a co-op multiplayer scenario with perhaps some extra logic added to the AI regarding which player to attack.

In many newer shooters, particularly the military type, you often play your single-player campaign with the assistance of other bots as you fight your way through the enemy bots. Why do these games not allow the ability for a real person to assume the role of one of those bots that are on your team? When did AI become so difficult to program that games that are over ten years old have multiplayer co-op with bots but modern games don’t?

I’ve read statements from some developers that there is no demand for such an option, but I don’t believe that. Many gaming sites and news articles have discussed the lack of etiquette in multiplayer gaming, whether it’s due to cheating, sexism, homophobia, or just plain arrogance from someone who is hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet. One of the key reasons why I don’t play on public multiplayer games anymore is because there are too many jerks out there who are ready to ruin the experience for everyone else just to bolster their own ego or get that precious unlockable perk. But, sadly, the selection of games that allow team-based, tactical co-op against a non-human enemy seems to be limited to games of the past.

Now would be as good a time as any to start focusing on LAN and co-op gameplay once again – with lots of bots to come along for the ride.

Original posted on my personal blog at http://thebergerbits.com



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CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2011 01:14
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Yeah I really don't understand why so many devs don't add bots. I know they don't have that unpredictable nature of a human-controlled player but sometimes it's nice just to have extra bodies to shoot at.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2011 05:17
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Ahh, good old bots, I'll always have great memories of me and 2 other friends vs a full team of bots in UTclassic and UT2k4, and same as you with the terrorist hunts on R6 games.

Have you guys tried out operation flash point: dragon rising? it's a couple years old, I got it during last year's steam holiday sale and me and my friends were pleasantly surprised with it, it has a co-op campaign that i think you guys might like if you're into the R6 and GR series.
Caitlin Cooke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2011 08:39
Caitlin Cooke
Res Evil 5 has a co-op bot if you're not playing with anyone else...but that's the most recent game I can think of. I really enjoy having enemy and friendly bots around for my shooters, it adds an element of surprise I suppose.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2011 09:50
Elsa
I tend to agree! I'm a console gamer, but some of the most fun I've had has been playing UT3 with a few friends and some bots... or even Killzone 2 or COD:BLOPS which also had a bot option.

... speaking of which, doesn't COD: Black Ops have a bot option on the PC version? It's the "combat training" mode... though it's restricted to specific modes unfortunately.
The Sama's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2011 12:30
The Sama
Totes agree. You regret the loss of bots; I regret the loss of splitscreen - and both are due to the same thing: overvalued online play. Don't get me wrong, I love online, but not at the loss of splitscreen.

I read once that the console makers don't like splitscreen because it means multiple people can make use of one console, which means less profit for them. That doesn't make sense though; I would be more likely to buy a console if I had fond memories from paying at a friend's house.

Anyways, I would recommend you check out strategy games, as those almost always include bots. Maybe you don't like strategy but it can be a nice change regardless. You don't even have to pay for them.
Also, if you have the cash (and don't hate consoles for the simple, pretentious reason that they're consoles) Halo Reach Firefight mode is basically a battle against bots. It has two player splitscreen and players can even play on the enemy (Covenant) team.
kid23455's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2011 13:56
kid23455
I totally agree, bots are pathetic to not include, and split-screen is also pathetic to not-include. There are so many cheats, hackers, and general douchebags online that I often just want to kill some bots, like in nightfire. Even though the bots were stupid, that was still so much fun.
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