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UK Dtoiders - We Need You (Manhunt 2 related)
Jim Sterling \| 11:53 AM on 06.19.2007	70 comments

As you're all doubtlessly aware, I reported on the site earlier that The BBFC have banned Manhunt 2. As a firm believer in freedom of expresssion and harmless art, this news has shaken my confidence even more in British society and the frustrated me even further in my lamentations about the treatement of videogames as an art form.

Fellow editor David Houghton agrees with me, and together we've decided something must be done. As of the time of writing, we are putting our heads together to come up with some idea pertaining to bringing this issue to the fore and for once, kicking up a stink from the other side of the fence and getting some attention for the pro-game lobby instead of the anti-game lobby.

Right now, David and I intend to rally the troops, so to speak, and see who wants to help. Be it some form of protest, campaign, event, whatever, we want our community to help us. You're all loyal Dtoiders and devoted gamers and the majority of you disagree with the BBFC's decision. As such, now's your chance to help us do more than just complain within our own gated communities and, if not make a difference, at least fucking try.

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jerrt says:
(# 0) on 06/19/2007 11:57

i'm down with the "robot", but i live in the US. if there is anything i can do on this side of the pond let us know. and if you need a copy of manhunt mailed to you i'd be willing to help out with that if the normal import channels are going to be too expensive or what not.

David Houghton says:
(# 1) on 06/19/2007 11:59

I am, but you knew that. :)

Seriously peeps, with the community we've got, we're in a damn good position to kick up a very pleasingly sized fuss about this, and believe me, myself and Jim are incensed enough to want to do something big. Stick your names below and we'll get the ball rolling.

Garbz says:
(# 2) on 06/19/2007 12:00

Count me in.

If i want to play a kick ass game on my Wii that just so happens to involve killing people (like most games in existence), then i will, one way or another.

But yeah, i'm all for fighting this idiocy.

pheonix-blood says:
(# 3) on 06/19/2007 12:02

so fucked up! count me in commander!

David Houghton says:
(# 4) on 06/19/2007 12:03

Glad to have you on board soldiers. :) Spread the word.

BlindsideDork says:
(# 5) on 06/19/2007 12:04

I would be but I myself am not 100% sure I am buying Manhunt 2...does that matter?

UglyDuck says:
(# 6) on 06/19/2007 12:04

Reporting for duty sir. I am proficient in the art of sending annoying emails, and I am more than proficient in the ecsquiste art of attaching captions to cats. I'm ready to fight for our right to kill people in a systematic and sadistic way!

Ambulance-Y says:
(# 7) on 06/19/2007 12:06

i too would love to join the cause but i am in the us of a as well. atleast you guys aren't starting a million online petitions cuz those are kinda worthless and nothing has ever been done with them other than wasting bandwidth and server space. maybe i should start an e-petition to end e-petitions?

i too would help out with importing, indescreatly, in barbie and or manhunt one or what ever cases with original artwork behind the fake covers. we should all send copies to the countrys leaders and send emails to the press saying they have illegaly imported copies of banned games. and to make the importing even sweeter, use jack thompson as the return address.

then i will sit in a bean bag chair naked eating cheetos playing manhunt 2 on my wii. mmmm cheetos..

Snaileb says:
(# 8) on 06/19/2007 12:07

This thread is racist to US d'toiders that WILL purchase the game.

Count me in though. I dun wanna be left out on some hate crime action. I'll..uh..yell real loud..

David Houghton says:
(# 9) on 06/19/2007 12:11

Yeah, it doesn't even matter if youthink Manhunt 2 looks like the biggest piece of shit since Superman 64. This isn't about the game, it's about the principle.

And yeah, if we find a way for anyone from outside the UK, we're more than happy to have you.

Tempus says:
(# 10) on 06/19/2007 12:13

I'll happily demonstrate that killing people is fun in manchester. Seriously though, sign me up. I'm in.

David Houghton says:
(# 11) on 06/19/2007 12:14

Just about to give you a nudge Temp, but I figured it wouldn't be necessary. ;)

Snaileb says:
(# 12) on 06/19/2007 12:16

Word to the wise : To garner more attention, Jim and Dave, maybe you should ask to edit the post on the main page, and link to this blog. I'm sure the people on the front page would love to find this.

lowercaseluke says:
(# 13) on 06/19/2007 12:17

In there like swimwear. Let's tear it up X(

Tempus says:
(# 14) on 06/19/2007 12:18

Temp? Yes, okay Dav. *chortle*

BlindsideDork says:
(# 15) on 06/19/2007 12:18

why can't we view David's C-Blog?

Tron Knotts says:
(# 16) on 06/19/2007 12:19

I'm the US, but I'll help if I can.

UglyDuck says:
(# 17) on 06/19/2007 12:20

Take the plus sign out?

Tempus says:
(# 18) on 06/19/2007 12:20

You can view Dav's blog by clicking on his photograph in the blog section, otherwise - it's gayed up. Either that or you're doing it wrong :D

David Houghton says:
(# 19) on 06/19/2007 12:20

I was wondering that. It basically just links to here though. I just put it up to get more attention.

David Houghton says:
(# 20) on 06/19/2007 12:22

Yeah, I'm considering having a word about a big front pager if we get enough interested parties. I've added a note to the Jim's Manhunt 2 story for now.

UglyDuck says:
(# 21) on 06/19/2007 12:23

I could try and get the Pure Pwnage army involved, if you like :).

Tempus says:
(# 22) on 06/19/2007 12:25

Then I'll be representing two armies in that case. The PP army are a mighty lot, any and all help is appreciated as long as it helps further the cause!

Jim Sterling says:
(# 23) on 06/19/2007 12:26

Yeah, once we get the ball rolling, I'll make sure the people know. Right now, I wanna just get some preliminary support.

Thank you very much, all those who've shown us that support thus far.

BlindsideDork says:
(# 24) on 06/19/2007 12:29

you 2 need my Transformers pics?

Justice says:
(# 25) on 06/19/2007 12:30

I'm possibly up for it

I mean, who has the right to decide what we play?
It should be our own choice.

Jim Sterling says:
(# 26) on 06/19/2007 12:31

Oh yeah, the problem with David's blog is he had a space between his first and second name. My name was squashed together to work with the blogs.

NIERO FIX IT I DON'T LIKE A SQUASHY NAME!

Jim Sterling says:
(# 27) on 06/19/2007 12:32

Oh wait, no he doesn't

MADNESS!

Tempus says:
(# 28) on 06/19/2007 12:37

I say we re-create scenes out of brutally violent games to demonstrate that we are here, we've brought game land with us in our imaginations and that is where it stays. We know not to kill, we know it is wrong and immoral. We can just peacefully pretend to kill each other with wiimotes and invent a "tag" type game.

Would work wonders, especially for cosplayers!

Jim Sterling says:
(# 29) on 06/19/2007 12:39

I was thinking a massive "violent games appreciation night" somewhere where we play brutal games en masse in a very civilised environment.

Of course, silly early ideas are par for the course.

digiwalsh says:
(# 30) on 06/19/2007 12:40

Count me in.

David Houghton says:
(# 31) on 06/19/2007 12:41

Yes! Lets do it in smoking jackets while drinking tea and speaking in snooty accents.

We'll do it royal garden party style.

David Houghton says:
(# 32) on 06/19/2007 12:41

Yeah, PP, is a bloody good idea. I know they've got a very big UK fanbase (myself a fully paid-up member), so it could help if they're up for it.

I'll give them a shout tonight.

Gemsi says:
(# 33) on 06/19/2007 12:42

You have my support.

Tempus says:
(# 34) on 06/19/2007 12:42

Shit, i forgot to mention copious amounts of alcohol are required for cosplay styled stuff but a meet up in an arcade in Manchester, possibly Namco - play house of the dead and all those other games which have NO age restriction in an arcade - and play that way. That's a good point actually, anyone can go into the arcade and play HOD etc. Why is this? Isn't that completely backwards considering the ruling on Manhunt? Hah, we've another issue to rip them on now.

Tempus says:
(# 35) on 06/19/2007 12:46

And furthermore, aren't arcade games more violent as there's usually less of an involving plot and storyline, which takes away context therefore promoting Gratuitus, mindless violence?

Half the reason I love the arcade personally. But a valid point to consider in light of this lot.

BlindsideDork says:
(# 36) on 06/19/2007 12:52

There are many valid points...I mean sometimes there are more violence on TV at times then in video games. SCAPE GOAT! haha

Jim Sterling says:
(# 37) on 06/19/2007 12:53

btw, whatever we end up doing, we'll be sure to make to make it fun and original as well, as is the Dtoid way.

David Houghton says:
(# 38) on 06/19/2007 12:59

Exactly. Intelligent fun and silliness with a point. In accordance with the prophecy.

tazarthayoot says:
(# 39) on 06/19/2007 13:10

I'm in the US but you have my support in any way I could help.

Mxyzptlk says:
(# 40) on 06/19/2007 13:33

I'm going to put in my Fawlty Towers dvd set and randomly add 'u's to words when I spell them as a display of solidarity for your noble crusade.

tazarthayoot says:
(# 41) on 06/19/2007 13:44

Young Ones and Mighty Boosh for me, mate.

Kozuch says:
(# 42) on 06/19/2007 13:48

Add one more name to the list. Being banned across the pond is just the first step. It's only a matter of time before a big name title is banned here in the states. Hopefully we can nip this in the bud before that happens. Good luck guys, I'm with you.

UglyDuck says:
(# 43) on 06/19/2007 13:55

I've made a thread on the Pure Pwnage forums so we might get some more people comming this way, hopefully :).

David Houghton says:
(# 44) on 06/19/2007 14:07

Nice one Phil. Which forum did you put it on? I'll keep an eye on it.

UglyDuck says:
(# 45) on 06/19/2007 14:47

Eh... the Gamer Army forum. Which you need to be a part of to view... I thought the PPGA might be able to do a much more organised job what with being an established, organised community. We're a bit slapdash, a bit random and more social - not that I'm doubting our effectiveness - we're just not geared for this kind of thing. PPGA have all the contacts, the email lists, the teamspeak channels, they generally have more clout.

David Houghton says:
(# 46) on 06/19/2007 14:58

Cool. I'll join up and check it out.

Shalashaska says:
(# 47) on 06/19/2007 15:23

I'm Canadian, but I'm down. Personally I can't wait to gouge people in that game, and I want everyone everywhere to have to ability to murder people with a pretend knife!

UglyDuck says:
(# 48) on 06/19/2007 16:39

Ehm... well, it's Pure Pwnage, David... you have to sign up to the PPGA, which costs money. I was member #130 and there are about 2200 members at the moment, so i was one of the first to prove that I had absolutely nothing in my life.

:'(

Topher Cantler says:
(# 49) on 06/19/2007 19:24

My support. Let me show you it.

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