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The hypocritical demonization of whalers (NVGR)
Jim Sterling | 8:36 PM on 02.08.2008 94 comments


So, I was reading The Sun "newspaper" today, because it's the only comic that's ever in the office, and I read a story that instantly filled me with disgust. It was about Japanese whalers. No, I wasn't disgusted because these whalers had just killed a mommy and baby whale, I was disgusted because these whalers were called "sick" by the paper in question.

There has been a long standing hypocrisy when it comes to humanity and the animal kingdom regarding which animals are okay to kill and mistreat and which animals aren't, but nowhere is that hypocrisy more apparent than with attacks on whalers, so-called "sick" individuals who are doing their jobs. Jobs that are no more different from say, a cow slaughterer or a farmer who wrings chickens' necks for a living.

I think it's pretty rich for a nation who happily carves up thousands of cute bouncy lambs to wheel around and call whalers "sick" and all manner of other words for killing a bunch of creepy looking undersea mammals who, to be fair, look like sex offenders. Whales are ugly and disturbing things with their big mouths and beady little eyes, and I fail to see the appeal. They might be more, apparently, "intelligent" than other animals, but by the same token, pigs are supposed to be pretty smart too and nobody feels like a monster for tucking into a ham sandwich.

This arbitrary assignment of sacredness to certain animals is pretty fucking stupid, and I think it's pretty fucking arrogant to deride one group of people for killing a certain species of dumb animal while munching away on another.

Also fuck the whales they're cunts.



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shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:41
shipero
Yeah, fuck whales. They're just fat, ugly dolphins.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:42
BS3 Owner
Fuck Whales! Save the SHAAAAAAARKS!
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:44
Sharpless
I agree, to an extent. I certainly agree with the first point, about calling the whalers sick bastards, when most of them are probably just guys doing their jobs. As for the animals, for me it all boils down to wastefulness. "Is it necessary to kill this animal?" If it's being killed to feed people, I have no problem with it. Killed for sport, or some other excess? Then, it's wasteful and unnecessary, IMO. Not 100% sure exactly what whaling is for, admittedly.

In conclusion,

Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:45
Maurice Tan
Well that's what you get for reading the Sun!

I think the japanese fail (once again) for trying to hunt a species which we already decided we should not hunt, under some lame pretense. If a species is very low on members, they should be protected. If they are not, they are shit out of luck. I don't think that hunting the few remaining whales to "study" them while having 1 million cows, really matters for whether you should hunt a species to extinction though.

Seals though, fuck those critters and club them to death! There's enough of them to go around, and there's definitely not enough comfy warm seal-fur loafers for me to lurk the cold floors in.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:46
Clockwork
Welcome to the world of stupid people. Population: Way to fucking many.
shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:46
shipero
@brainderailment

You eat labrador? Eww... Evenyone know that Collies have the quality meat.
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:46
Hamza CTZ Aziz
Well, I understand where you're coming from, but aren't whales on the extinction list? And if not, their numbers are falling fast. I think they're looking at it in that sense. Cows are easy to come by as we breed them.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:48
MrSadistic
If I could, I would slap a whale between two pieces of Texas Toast and eat it. It would probably also go well with some Bald Eagle on the side.
Scape's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:51
Scape
@Hamza

Nail on the head right there.
Atlas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:51
Atlas
HOLY SHIT! I was writing blog on how pigs were murdered and you just post this after me? Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

Even though it actually appeared after yours. Took me a while to write my blog, y'know. Quality over quantity Sterling, quality over quantity.
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:53
Silverhertz
Pffhhh people should eat pandas-theyre on the extinction list but by some divine grace they seem to be a species designed for that very purpose. Also...really Jim...the sun? The Sun Newspaper?Im not suprised they called whalers sick...they seem to have just about everyone else lumped into that category. The Sun's opinion on anything is about equal to that of a bacterias puss filled acne.

Also, fuck the pandas.
shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:56
shipero
@Silverhertz

I agree, the pandas must die.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:56
BS3 Owner
Endangered Species need to be kept safe.

No matter where they are.... Period.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 20:58
BS3 Owner
@ shipero

ZOMG! Breakdancing pandas!
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:00
Silverhertz
@ Shipero:

I bust a spleen watching that. teheehehehe
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:00
MrSadistic
Seal must die, and I don't mean the animal I mean the actual singer. That "Kiss From A Rose" song pisses me off.
Lukich's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:01
Lukich
Interesting post Mr. Sterling.

I doubt that there's anyone on any side of the argument who isn't a hypocrite in some sense. I have no issue with eating meat, but at the same time I could kill a person if they harmed my dog.

Then you have those that are all for animal rights, but those feelings are always conditional, and rarely apply to what we would consider "pests".
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:02
Silverhertz


Enjoy that cake while you can mr.panda....it shall be...your last!
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:07
Samit Sarkar
I agree with Hamza and Sharpless. If they’re an endangered species, we should do everything we can to protect them, but as long as humans aren’t whaling to extinction, and the animals are used for food or other legitimate purposes (e.g., medicine), then that’s fine by me.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:10
Jim Sterling
"Endangered Species need to be kept safe.

No matter where they are.... Period."

Really? Animals go extinct all the time. Sometimes it's their time. I take no great joy in the extinction of an animal, but I don't weep for it either.

Take the panda for example. If they want to stop being extinct they can start fucking again. It's foolish for us to intervene when it seems that the pandas are intent on dooming themselves.
Atlas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:10
Atlas
What good do whales even serve to us? If we have em in zoo's why should we care if they die out? Just more food for the fishes left over.
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:11
taumpytears
As much as I think whales are the assholes of the seas I think Hamza is right.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:12
vexed alex
Willy is sadden by your words, Jim. Whales are not ugly!

Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:13
Silverhertz
Extinction is lifes way of telling you to do better as species or GTFO.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:14
Jim Sterling
Vexed: Orca whales are the exception. Save those guys all day long, but fuck the rest of them.

Orcas aren't even proper whales, are they? Or am I thinking of something else. I'm sure they're not strictly whales.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:15
vexed alex
Aren't we intervening by killing them faster than they would in the sea on their own?
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:17
Chad Concelmo
I can actual see where you are coming from, Jim (says the president of the "I <3 sea creatures" club), but most of these pigs, sheep, and cows you mention are bred for one purpose and one purpose only: to be eaten. That doesn't make it anymore right, but ... I don't know. There has to be a moral line somewhere, right?
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vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:18
vexed alex
According to my trip to Sea World Orcas are related to dolphins. But yeah. I saw one of them break dance. There's no way you can kill something that can dance to Queen.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:18
Samit Sarkar
@Jim, Silverhertz: Extinction is a part of natural selection, and the natural order of things, for sure. But there’s a big difference between a species dying off naturally, and humans hunting that species to extinction (or causing extinction in other ways, such as introducing a new predator).
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:18
Chad Concelmo
You're right. Orca whales are technically dolphins. *shocked and amazed* I knew my dolphin trivia would come in handy someday! :) :)
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:22
Joseph Leray
Now, I'm not going to criticize people for hunting shit to eat it, but Japan (and the United States, and most Mediterranean countries) are overfishing the shit out of their region. Not only is it, in my opinion, morally reprehensible, but they're shooting themselves in the foot. When the marine population gets depleted, they won't have shit to eat, now will they. I'm not exaggerating for effect -- it's a serious problem.

I should clarify that whalers themselves aren't morally reprehensible -- people's gots to food on the table. But I feel is the government's responsibility to intervene and regulate, not only to save a diminishing number of animals, but because it's in their best economic and social interests. Sustainability and conservation pay off in the long run.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:23
GrayFox
Aren't panda bears dying because most of the bamboo trees (their source of food) is being wiped out by man?

And you think it's ok for a extinguish a species that has been around for millions of years so humans can have some whale soup?

If their extinction was natural I could see your point, but we are causing many of these extinctions.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:23
Dynamic Sheep
I have a proposal for you Jim. Though it may seem a little... extreme... please consider that there is nothing more animalistic than a poor Irish child.
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:25
Silverhertz
If we keep giving a crap to pointless endeavours and devoting recources to protecting every creature on this planet we're just wasting time before the asteroid hits us/ice age happens again/godzilla, mothra & cloverfield bring the smack down on the world (delete as applicable)

I know its the human way to be short sighted but in the long term its all not going to matter. Lets get that money, thinking and manpower going towards something that really matters. An anti-godzilla gun.

And I guess getting the fuck off this planet might help. Change is inevitable and the dominant species always has first dibs. Thats just the way it is. I may seem like a heartless cunt but Ive realised as ive gotten older (note:more cynical) that whats going to happen is going to happen, change can only be slowed, not prevented.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:28
vexed alex
Can we plan a Destructoid trip to Sea World? We can all have matching Mr. Destructoid shirts, wear short khaki shorts and New Balance sneakers. I'm dead serious. We could learn so much about marine wildlife and watch whales/dolphins break dance. We can also turn Jim into an underwater animal lover.

I'm pretty damn sure we can get a discount if we go as a group. We'll say we're British tourists and let Jim do all the talking.
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:30
Silverhertz
Forget everything ive said. We should be devoting all resources to making more pairs of those sweet sneakers.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:30
GrayFox
The rule where the dominant species gets first dibs definitely applies for animals, but man was blessed with things like intellect and reason, so we we don't have to act on our primal instinct which is to KILL KILL KILL.

If we continue the reckless "man-first" attitude then eventually we won't have a habitable planet, which will ultimately end in our demise. Food for thought.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:31
Projectexodus
First of all, whales are not threatened with extinction! I dont know much about Japan and the Pacific, but I know that there are 100.000 whales in the Atlantic Ocean alone.
And the only whaler nations nearby is Norway and Iceland.

Norway has a quota of 1000 whales every year and barely catch a little over 500. Iceland being 20 times smaller than
Norway probably has even lower quotas.

Those groups aiming towards saving the whales are bleeding terrorists! They've sunk plenty of whaler ships and have threatened whalers with their life! Calling the whalers sick would be completely idiotic!

They complain about the way of killing them being "unhumane". So what is an "humane" way to kill anyway? Strapping a person to the electric chair or injecting a poison needle is? But we kill whales because we eat them! Lions kill zebras in order to eat them! Its nature!
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:32
Silverhertz
Hence getting the fuck off should be the priority, not destroying it. Its in mans nature to move on and take over. I say why stop with earth? And if some stronger, more kick ass alien type dudes get pissed and wipe us out...well I guess they just wanted it more :-D
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:38
Projectexodus
Also, save the Welsh!
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:43
vexed alex
@ Projectexodus

Welch's?

Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:44
Jim Sterling
"But there’s a big difference between a species dying off naturally, and humans hunting that species to extinction (or causing extinction in other ways, such as introducing a new predator)."

We didn't beam down in a spaceship, we're part of nature too. Fact of the matter is, what we're doing? That, also, is natural. If whales were the dominant sentient species on Earth, you bet you're ass they'd hunt us into extinction too.

Again, I'm not saying that means we need to kill everything, and that moderation isn't the best solution, because it is. However, I'm really sick of the whole "Humans are doing such evil things to animals HEY CHICKENS NOM NOM NOM" bullshit that goes on.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:46
Jim Sterling
Also, what Projectexodus said.

These eco-hippies are more damaging than whalers, by far. And fucking unhinged.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:48
Jim Sterling
"If their extinction was natural I could see your point, but we are causing many of these extinctions."

There is no human/nature divide. It's human nature to absorb and expand. We can't stop it because it's NATURAL for us to do it. I love this assumption than man isn't actually a part of how the world works, like we're some weird alien creatures that came and took the Earth away from the cats that were ruling it first.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:50
Projectexodus
@Vexed Alex
The country Wales. The Welsh people.


@Jim Sterling
Exactly!
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:50
vexed alex
I agree with you on the hypocrisy, Jim.

The moral of the story is -- eat an apple, kids. Take a break from chicken McNuggets every once in a while. Yeah? Everyone agreed?

Good.

Now onto the real topic at hand. Midget porn



Unacceptable.
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 21:56
taumpytears
I say we start a war with all whales. That way we can easily win a war and people will be to distracted by our bad ass military and quit bitching about video games. It would be worth it just to see the hippies whine so much.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 22:03
vexed alex
God, I didn't want to go back to whales, but damn. Isn't it beneficiary for us to not kill all the animals on this planet? I'm pretty sure that's linked to destroying the planet and ourselves, no? We're talking about balance here.

Even if it is natural, wouldn't it be better for us to not be selfish fucks who act more like viruses than animals? I'm just saying.

Also, I'm not a hippie or an emo.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 22:08
Jim Sterling
"Even if it is natural, wouldn't it be better for us to not be selfish fucks who act more like viruses than animals? I'm just saying."

I'm not saying I condone humanity absorbing and destroying everything on the planet, I just think it's gonna happen one way or another.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 22:13
GrayFox
We are somewhat alien in that we are lightyears ahead of any other species in terms of mental capacity. Man is smart enough (or should be) to realize that the careless rape and pillage of our resources (animal or otherwise) will end with everything wiped from the planet. Many people are too short sighted and are willing to jeopardize our long term future for some quick and easy cash without being conscientious of the consequences of our actions.

I agree that we are part of nature and sure, the law of nature dictates that the strong will rule, but in this case it is like the incredible hulk versus a retarded child. Unlike any other species before us, we have the ability to wipe everything out, and we should be smart enough to realize what that will mean for us.

It just starts with whales or pandas or whatever, but this cavalier attitude about destroying everything in our path so we can live a little more comfortably has far-reaching consequences. What will they move on to once the whales are gone?
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