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First Jimpressions: Dynasty Warriors 6
Jim Sterling | 1:29 PM on 02.20.2008 60 comments


Okay, so as most of you will be aware by now, I received my review copy of Dynasty Warriors 6 today from Koei (who tell me I'm one of the very first online writers in the UK to get a copy) and have now sunk an unhealthy amount of hours into it. Having completed a couple of Musou modes and, of course, taken Zhang He out for a spin, it's time for some more of my pre-review Jimpressions.

Naturally, I picked old favorite Sima Yi first and foolishly went on normal mode. As ever, DW6 starts your characters out super weak, so Easy mode is advised until they've bulked up a little. At first, I was worried that the game wasn't all that hot. I wandered around Chi Bi in practically darkness (night battles are very hard to see on an SDTV) and leapt into the water for the first time, only to not know how the fuck one gets out of the water.

Anyway, once I got past a little teething trouble, I finally eased into the swing of things and started really enjoying myself. Firstly, DW6 is more intense than any previous game in the series. Not only are there more characters onscreen at any given time, but the way in which the crowds pummel each other, and climb ladders, and pump the air in victory, it just feels way more alive. Even though the combo system has been simplified somewhat, it still feels more engrossing than before because the melees are just huge.

The Renbu system is pretty cool, and part of the fun is keeping the combo count high enough to have access to more effective moves. My favorite addition has to be the special moves you can perform by holding down a shoulder button. The first time Sima Yi literally span an enemy soldier in a fucking web made me cackle with glee.

The biggest problem I have so far is the poorly designed maps on several stages. Too many dead ends and hard-to-access areas can lead to severe frustration. Don't get me started on the mess that is Yi Ling's stone sentinal maze -- not that it's ever been fun, but in DW6 I was growling.

Still, it's great fun for those familiar to the series and so far, is a recommended jumping point for those curious about the franchise. The addition of "targets," which are three special goals you can fulfill in each stage for extra experience, weapons and character unlocks, add an extra layer of depth to every battle, and just to confirm for fellow fans of homosexuality everywhere -- Zhang He is gayer than ever. Whoever does his voice in DW6 absolutely fucking nailed it.

Right, that's that. Expect the full Destructoid review in a few days.



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Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:42
Brian Szabelski
Sterling, I was wondering where your Jimpressions were. Glad to see them here :)
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:42
BS3 Owner
OMG! Eight Days Later!
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:45
VWGTI
Sigh, the work day can't end soon enough.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:46
Jim Sterling
VWGTI: ESCAPE FROM WORK! I am actually excited for fellow DW fans to play this. I wanna know what they think too.
Simon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:47
Simon
Sounds like it should, i tend to pick up ever other dynasty warriors game just so I don't get flooded by it, may pick this up when it's released
Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:49
Tragic Hero
Ill be checking this out after work. Unfortunately I promised my bro I would wait for him to get off work so we could co-op it up.

And by any chance is there a create-a-warrior in this one? I didn't hear about it at all in any of the previews but I kept my fingers crossed hoping that Koei would sneak it in.
PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:50
PANZERDRAKO
no screenshots?

WTF!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:51
Jim Sterling
Tragic Hero: No CAWs, sorry. Personally I hated the CAW modes, so it doesn't matter to me. Sucks that you was hoping for it, though.
Cowzilla3's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:56
Cowzilla3
I'm just suprised you could stop and type this up Jim. I'm proud of your strength.
Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:57
Tragic Hero
@Jim

Well I was hoping that perhaps Koei would actually do it right such as giving unique weapons and musou attacks rather than picking a weapon and picking another heroes move set. It was still nice to have the opportunity to create your own army killer but its not going to affect the gameplay a whole lot.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 13:58
VWGTI
@ Jim

Are most of the changes for the better? Do you enjoy the new skill-tree system?
Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:01
Tragic Hero
Oh and Jim how does Zhou Yu play now that he has a bow staff? That kind of disappointed me when I heard they changed his weapon but I heard from others that he plays pretty good?
ZeroTolo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:06
ZeroTolo
one question and one question only:

Is Zhou Tai in this one?
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:10
VWGTI
Sorry guys. I think we've lost him again.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:12
Jim Sterling
VWGTI: More or less. The ability to scare soldiers by jumping down on them from high up or attacking from an unexpected place is awesome, and the duels, while ridiculously hard, can be escaped and at least look awesome. As for the skill trees, I really like 'em. They reminds me of FFX. I just hope it's not possible to "screw over" a character by having them cap before you fill the tree. We'll see.

Tragic Hero: Haven't played as Zhou Yu yet. I've only tried Sima Ti, Zhao Yun, Zhang He and Sun Shang Xiang.

ZeroTolo: He is. I unlocked him a short while ago.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:20
Usedtabe
Got it today. Enjoying it so far. Really sad they took out Zuo Ci and Pang De, though I did notice that when I fought Zhang Lao, he had double halberds. So there is hope for Pang De lovers.
brosef's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:22
brosef
Quite a well rounded review actually. I expected to hit the jump and just see the word *fap* about 732 times. Well done.

Question: If a person has never played a DW game before (*hangs head in shame*), would he be better off renting this game before buying it?
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:24
Usedtabe
@brosef: I actually recommend Orochi Warriors first.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:29
Justice
Cheers man!
ZeroTolo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:40
ZeroTolo
With that answer Jim, you very well may have secured Koei's financial future via my purchase of this product. Hip-hip-hooray!!
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:46
kawitchate
"Even though the combo system has been simplified somewhat" - how in the hell did they manage to do THAT?!? lol. j/k i love u jim.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 14:52
VWGTI
lol @ kawitchate
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 15:03
mix
Good little review, I will be renting this game for sure!
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 15:05
BahamutZero
I might actually get this, once my system gets back from the graveyard.
ShadeWithin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 15:45
ShadeWithin
I'm gonna be honest, the omission of Jiang Wei and Xing Cai upsets me, as do around half of the weapon changes... but I'm sure it'll still be worthwhile. And Zhou Yu better be sweet as hell with a staff, because he was my fave with a blade.
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 15:55
Red TheHaze Veron
HAPPY DW6G DAY!
(DW6G-Dynasty Warriors 6 Get)

Better get some ice for that thumb! pa-tum-pish!
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 15:57
Samit Sarkar
Awesome, Jim. I don’t have any money right now for this game, as I’m saving up for a baseball video game (actually, I’m technically only saving for Sony’s MLB 08: The Show — if it’s not as good as I hope, I’ll just stick with my free copy of 2K Sports’ MLB 2K8). But two of my best friends said they’d pick this game up the week it came out (which is this week, in America...yay!) So hopefully I’ll be able to try it out soon. It certainly sounds good...though I know you’re playing it on a 360, and IGN’s review (though god-awful and woefully inadequate in general) did mention some framerate issues on the PS3 version.
sTo0z's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 16:00
sTo0z
Jim, Koei should send you a written letter of thanks, it's your write-up right here, right now, this very second, that has convinced me to stick with the series.

All I ever wanted was the battlefield to feel more "alive", and you just said it did.

Although, us diehards can keep praying for an online co-op mode and no co-op pop-in/pop-out... :P

Maybe DW7 XTREME KINGDOMS or something. ;)
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 16:25
Samit Sarkar
@AgentMOO: That is still one of the funniest shoops I have ever seen on this website. My sides hurt from all the laughing I did when I saw it for the first time.
MasterMS's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 16:25
MasterMS
I will be getting this game within the hour.
sTo0z's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 16:43
sTo0z
Oh boy I've got it... why do I keep coming back... it's like an abusive relationship that I won't leave... maybe the sex is just too damn good.

Anyways, off I go to play.
CRaZyTooTHJiM's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 17:12
CRaZyTooTHJiM
Sounds good I'll try and check it out
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 17:15
VWGTI
Ok, I just completed the first level on Medium with Mr. Dun and I really don't know what to say. Need to play some more I guess. Very different it seems.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 17:16
SourGr8pes
There's no place in my area that has DW6 yet, so I'm relying on you to give me trickles of information.

On the bright side, I'm extremely pleased to hear that Zhang He is even gayer than before. What kind of gay things does he yell for a musou attack?
sTo0z's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 17:20
sTo0z
lol, why oh why must I run into lu bu right before dong zhuo is about to die.. killed in 3 hits to end that entire level... haha...

initial impressions from a long time fan

- yes it's hectic, for better and for worse. still some obnoxious disappearing/appearing people, especially amusing to see horses riding around with invisible riders.

- killing horses, whoa!

- archers, finally, are way less annoying (so it seemed)

- the new clashed weapon victories are hilarious, zhao yun jumps up and grabs the enemie's throat with his legs and spins around slashing people with his spear before tossing said grappled man to the ground.

- bosses can block even when being attacked from behind, laym.

that's about it from the super initial reaction.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 17:41
Jim Sterling
SourGr8pes: Not been able to work out what he says when he uses a musou, but when he takes over a base he whines "This base could use some redecorating" and when he defeats an officer he chimes something like, "Every victory contains a hint of beauty." Not an exact quote, but it was something along those lines.
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 18:26
Silverhertz
it just feels way more alive

Thats what I was hoping for. The battlefields before were good, but the immersion was never that brilliant before. Have you tried out the Dun yet? Is his new weapon any good?
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 18:33
Eschatos
Do want.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 19:10
VWGTI
@ Silver

I'm a huge Xihaou Dun fan and I'm a bit disappointed with the change. He is no longer quick and nimble like he used to be. His attacks are slow and long, often leaving you vulnerable to attacks.

I finally got my tier 2 weapon though, so I'm excited to see if it makes a difference. There is also many things I don't quite understand just yet, more specifically the Renbu system and tomes.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 19:43
SourGr8pes
"This base could use some redecorating"

I am pleased, probably will be more pleased once I find out if they have the alternate costume with the butterfly wings.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 20:14
VWGTI
Ok, after trying out a few other characters I've learned that not everyone will enjoying playing their favorite character.

I'm still having fun with Xiahou Dun, he's just not the same badass without the Kirin Blade.
Silverhertz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 20:31
Silverhertz
@VWGTI:

This is what I was terribly fearing. I brought one of the play-asia models which turned out to be Xiahou out of pure luck. Staring at him, gazing into his one eye...his burly shoulders...his dynamic goatie....err where was I going with this?

Oh yeh - staring at him, whilst his weapon does look badass it really doesnt suit him. The kirin blade was all about slicing, directed attacks and I was worried that this lumbersome weapon would make him craptacularly slow. You have confirmed my fears :-(
DrkAdonis's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 22:04
DrkAdonis
Jim, I have to say that I'm really glad I read your brief pre-review... I'm now confident enough to purchase this game. I was thinking of waiting a bit to finish up DW5E first... but screw it. DW6... here I come!
ShadeWithin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 22:17
ShadeWithin
Yea, I'm a bit disappointed with Dun's weapon change... but on a lighter note Zhou Yu's weapon change went quite well, he's still a balla. The simplified combo system is kinda sweet, but I still kinda prefer the x^nth,y type combos. Now it's just x,x,x,x or LeftBump+x,x,x,x or y,y,y or hold y. Still fun, still amazing co-op... target bonuses are fun and challenging to pull of... and Lu Bu still kills an unprepared warrior with one charge attack. I'm satisfied with my investment.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 22:25
Shin Oni
hot hot shit. I'm gonna squeeeze some time in before bedtime. Then tomorrow's all DW6.
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 23:06
Dr Milkdad
I can't wait to get to play this, sadly I'll probably have to wait a few weeks before I get a chance.
Urashima's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 23:11
Urashima
I'm a bit torn with this so far. I've only been able to play through one musou mode thus far, but what I've played has me wanting more. Don't get me wrong, I still had a lot of fun playing it, but it just feels like something is missing. Hopefully filling in Character's skill trees will fill the relatively small void I'm feeling present in the game atm.
marko72's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2008 23:46
marko72
it has been mine for a day... and it's a hella fun... but i did notice that zhang jiao kicked my ass something serious when i made the mistake of running up on him in my first battle sans powerups... oh well, live and learn... can't wait till i have time to unlock LUUUUU BUUUUUUU!!
ShadeWithin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/21/2008 00:06
ShadeWithin
I'm a little upset that the grunt didn't stutter on "It's Lu Bu!!" at Hu Lao... It doesn't feel right.

That'd be like leaving out, "What; a mobile suit!?!"

"IT'S A GUNDAAAAAAAAAAAAM!"
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