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I don't think that the question was in relation to used (or pirated) games... it was regarding the games launch retail price.
You can buy a full Ratchet and Clank game for $60.00... but you could also buy the downloadable game Quest for Booty for $19.99 a launch from PSN (I think it was $19.99). It's not fair to compare the quality of the two games. The PSN game is shorter, it doesn't have some of the bells and whistles of the full game... but for the price - it is an excellent game. The same goes for the Battlefield games vs Battlefield 1943 - another digitial game. It was smaller, but still fun - and for the price, it was well worth it.
The launch price of the game should definitely be considered when reviewing the game... but used game prices, or pirated games - these aren't relevant when the purpose of the review is to determine whether one should pre-order or buy a new game.
You can buy a full Ratchet and Clank game for $60.00... but you could also buy the downloadable game Quest for Booty for $19.99 a launch from PSN (I think it was $19.99). It's not fair to compare the quality of the two games. The PSN game is shorter, it doesn't have some of the bells and whistles of the full game... but for the price - it is an excellent game. The same goes for the Battlefield games vs Battlefield 1943 - another digitial game. It was smaller, but still fun - and for the price, it was well worth it.
The launch price of the game should definitely be considered when reviewing the game... but used game prices, or pirated games - these aren't relevant when the purpose of the review is to determine whether one should pre-order or buy a new game.
@Elsa
No, the question was not in relation to those who buy used games or download pirated games...but who cares? They are still relevant. Excluding them from the discussion is absurd. You think the only people who read reviews are those interested in pre-ordering or buying a new game?
No, the question was not in relation to those who buy used games or download pirated games...but who cares? They are still relevant. Excluding them from the discussion is absurd. You think the only people who read reviews are those interested in pre-ordering or buying a new game?
For the used game market.... the review would still stand - the price might go lower, but it would never go higher than the initial retail price.
... and excluding pirates from any gaming discussion is always a good idea.
... and excluding pirates from any gaming discussion is always a good idea.
@Elsa
I do blame myself for not being clear enough, I'll try to reformulate.
Since the price of games is constantly decreasing, saying that "At 60$, it's not worth it" will not be relevant in the following months.
I mentioned pirating games to tell people just how pointless a price is.
Basically, if you can have everything for free, then everything is free.
Whether it be Minecraft or Battlefield, you can pay nil and still get to play those games.
That's why pricing is irrelevant.
I do blame myself for not being clear enough, I'll try to reformulate.
Since the price of games is constantly decreasing, saying that "At 60$, it's not worth it" will not be relevant in the following months.
I mentioned pirating games to tell people just how pointless a price is.
Basically, if you can have everything for free, then everything is free.
Whether it be Minecraft or Battlefield, you can pay nil and still get to play those games.
That's why pricing is irrelevant.
@Elsa: Excluding pirates from any gaming discussion is always a good idea?! NONSENSE!
Sure they are screwing some of our favorite companies, or at the very least not helping, but do you think by pretending they don't exist they will go away? Or that there might be less of them if we never mention them? Do you think that by refusing to acknowledge their existence we will help prevent people from becoming pirates in the future? In other words, why should we exclude pirates from a gaming discussion?
I'm quite serious with my questions, not trying to be insulting in any way so my apologies in advance if my questions come off that way. Sorry to take this blog off topic...
@J Your avatar is not showing up, unless you meant it to be a broken image. Just a friendly heads up.
Sure they are screwing some of our favorite companies, or at the very least not helping, but do you think by pretending they don't exist they will go away? Or that there might be less of them if we never mention them? Do you think that by refusing to acknowledge their existence we will help prevent people from becoming pirates in the future? In other words, why should we exclude pirates from a gaming discussion?
I'm quite serious with my questions, not trying to be insulting in any way so my apologies in advance if my questions come off that way. Sorry to take this blog off topic...
@J Your avatar is not showing up, unless you meant it to be a broken image. Just a friendly heads up.
on the pirates... I was being facetious!
(piracy is such a huge issue... and evokes totally different topics than the current one)
(piracy is such a huge issue... and evokes totally different topics than the current one)
Price is always relevant. Whether we like it or not that fun you speak of has a dollar amount. Yes, it decreases over time but talking about price helps to put value of a product in perspective. There's many factors to consider such as what competitors are offering for the same price, what is included in the package (think Dark Souls or BlazBlue automatic special edition upgrades) and the quality of the title versus the price they're asking. Cursed Crusade is releasing for $40 but looks like it's worth full retail. That's added value to a product I was already interested in. It makes my decision to dive in and support the developer that much easier. Pirates, on the other had, don't matter because they have nothing to lose. You could pirate Duke Nukem Forever just to check it out and delete when you're done. Nothing is lost; not even harddrive space if you decide not to keep it. I like to think reviews are guides for consumers that actually plan on spending hard-earned money on products rather than a tool for thieves that want to know if they should just download something else.
@kidplus
So if a rating has a dollar amount attached to it that is temporary, you're saying is that the review score is also temporary, right?
Should critics update their reviews each time there's a price drop or a steam sale?
We need to think about the reviews on the long run.
No game will ever play better or look better just because it's cheaper.
You need to judge things on an equal standpoint because, at some point, it's going to be.
So if a rating has a dollar amount attached to it that is temporary, you're saying is that the review score is also temporary, right?
Should critics update their reviews each time there's a price drop or a steam sale?
We need to think about the reviews on the long run.
No game will ever play better or look better just because it's cheaper.
You need to judge things on an equal standpoint because, at some point, it's going to be.
@J
I'm saying that games cost money and considering if they are worth the asking price is relevant to the gamer. Not everyone buys games used weeks after release. Why not at least mention the price of the game if it benefits gamers considering buying? That value changes over time, but that has little to do with the timeframe in which reviews are normally posted.
I'm saying that games cost money and considering if they are worth the asking price is relevant to the gamer. Not everyone buys games used weeks after release. Why not at least mention the price of the game if it benefits gamers considering buying? That value changes over time, but that has little to do with the timeframe in which reviews are normally posted.
