Heh, I noticed that this was pissing you off. :-P
I had absolutely no problem controlling my guys in P3. They always did almost exactly what I wanted them to do, and I have no idea why so many people had problems.
I had absolutely no problem controlling my guys in P3. They always did almost exactly what I wanted them to do, and I have no idea why so many people had problems.
I found controlling my characters to be a charming part of the game. You weren't some ominous force that simply controlled every character perfectly. You were the leader and had to do your best to direct your crew.
I prefer it when I feel like my party has a mind of its own. I just advise them on what they should be aiming for and they'll do it, without me physically guiding them.
That's probably something I'll miss when I move onto P4.
That's probably something I'll miss when I move onto P4.
you know, playing through this game, I thought that my team mates always did an awesome job whenever i changed commands. They always did exactly what I wanted them to do as long as they were on the proper setting. It felt like another place to strategize
@Trebz
You can optionally have your teammates in battle in P4 control just the same as they did in P3 if that's what suits you.
You can optionally have your teammates in battle in P4 control just the same as they did in P3 if that's what suits you.
Yay hand holding.
A.I controlled party members or hell any kind of character is shit, it will never stop being shit, no company on this earth has come up with a good A.I system, Atlus is no exception, the A.I in Persona 3 is serviceable but it still does some really dumb shit that no human would ever do and that's what annoys me, if you have no prior knowledge of what awaits you in the final fight of Persona 3 you could be in serious trouble and die based on your stupid A.I partners OR worst of all, the A.I's inability to simply toss an item on someone.
You also neglect to mention that sometimes even using tactics the characters make bad choices, I mean Mitsuru's A.I so horrid that she's practically unusable.
I will take full party control over A.I crap any day of the week.
And may I just say its hilarious to see you sperging over this, your love for Atlus borders on the insane at times.
A.I controlled party members or hell any kind of character is shit, it will never stop being shit, no company on this earth has come up with a good A.I system, Atlus is no exception, the A.I in Persona 3 is serviceable but it still does some really dumb shit that no human would ever do and that's what annoys me, if you have no prior knowledge of what awaits you in the final fight of Persona 3 you could be in serious trouble and die based on your stupid A.I partners OR worst of all, the A.I's inability to simply toss an item on someone.
You also neglect to mention that sometimes even using tactics the characters make bad choices, I mean Mitsuru's A.I so horrid that she's practically unusable.
I will take full party control over A.I crap any day of the week.
And may I just say its hilarious to see you sperging over this, your love for Atlus borders on the insane at times.
I actually liked that AI part of it, because if your "leader" told Char #2 to use a fire spell on Enemy #1 next turn then maybe they would move the fuck outta the way lol. Also, Persona 3 was pretty damn easy, especially if you did a little bit of level grinding before mindlessly running up 20 flights of stairs too fast. Shoot the hardest boss in the game only gives you the option of using the MC, and she gets 2 turns to your 1. Im suprised people were getting so bitchy.
I only ever used tactics for the bosses and later on in The Answer (when it was essential). I didn't have much use for many tactics other than Assign Target, Heal/Support and Knock Down. You could pretty much get through the entire game with Scan & then letting the AI do your dirty work.
I don't see how any of this needs a guide since they tell you all this in the game. No offence, but haven't we had enough blogs about Persona 3 now?
I don't see how any of this needs a guide since they tell you all this in the game. No offence, but haven't we had enough blogs about Persona 3 now?
@Stevil: I know it's explained in the game! That's one of the reasons it bothers me so much that I keep seeing comments by the hundreds stating that nobody can figure it out.
@Kyosuke: Of course the AI for the most part is shit. That's why you CONTROL IT.
And Mitsuru is perfectly usable if you give her commands. If you just let her do whatever or you use the wrong commands, yeah, she's going to fuck up. It just doesn't help that she's the single worst ally in the game, since her skill build is completely wrong for what your allies need to do in P3. Allies are there for support and for knocking enemies down, you don't need them to use Status Magic or inflict raw damage, that's what Minato is for. And since Mitsuru is built to do those very things, she might as well not ever fight.
And I'll also say this. There's being an Atlus fan, there's being an Atlus fanboy, and there's just being stupid about everything. I'll admit I'm kind of a fanboy(I -will- speak up if Atlus does something stupid, like, oh, make a 3rd version of P3 in 3 years), but complaining about lack of party control in P3 is just silly.
@Kyosuke: Of course the AI for the most part is shit. That's why you CONTROL IT.
And Mitsuru is perfectly usable if you give her commands. If you just let her do whatever or you use the wrong commands, yeah, she's going to fuck up. It just doesn't help that she's the single worst ally in the game, since her skill build is completely wrong for what your allies need to do in P3. Allies are there for support and for knocking enemies down, you don't need them to use Status Magic or inflict raw damage, that's what Minato is for. And since Mitsuru is built to do those very things, she might as well not ever fight.
And I'll also say this. There's being an Atlus fan, there's being an Atlus fanboy, and there's just being stupid about everything. I'll admit I'm kind of a fanboy(I -will- speak up if Atlus does something stupid, like, oh, make a 3rd version of P3 in 3 years), but complaining about lack of party control in P3 is just silly.
I didn't realize people didn't know about this. It's pretty much a necessity for boss battles and once you start getting to higher floors...and for keeping Mitsuru from casting Marin Karin and Tantarafoo. No, Mitsuru, I know it's weak to Bufu, but you keep casting that useless crap while I get beat down. I'm fine. Not like everything goes to hell when I die.
That's what I liked about Persona 3. Although it appears to take away a good deal of control, it forces you to relearn group dynamics in combat. I liked Persona 4 because it introduces a compromise between control and trust. Having a few players controlled by the computer makes the battle feel entirely different. Having to put up with suboptimal (that is, slightly imperfect) ally AI and then suddenly getting the option to drop it in the sequel was a very welcome change. Maybe these people just got spoiled by Full Control. I know I was. If only Left 4 Dead had this kind of prioritization for COM players.
Oooooor you can just get the P3P port (oh no wait, IT'S GOING TO BE TERRIBLE). The fact you had to write an explanation means I'm happy I never played P3 because of this. Get over it, some people are control freaks and anything but direct control pisses them off. It's the same reason I won't play RTS games.
@Wedge: Thanks for missing the point so cleanly. I wrote the explanation to point out how easy the system is to use and how you CAN control your characters. I'm a control freak too, I hate leaving my characters actions to the AI, which is why I liked P3 because you DON'T HAVE TO.
Not controlling my allies directly was kind of nice. And with the exception of Mitsuru casting Marin Karin and Tentarafoo when grinding I never had a problem with the AI.
And it'd be easier to get over it if people claiming the AI is terrible without any qualifiers would get over it. Get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it.
But yes, different strokes. And auto-attack really is your friend.
And it'd be easier to get over it if people claiming the AI is terrible without any qualifiers would get over it. Get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it get over it.
But yes, different strokes. And auto-attack really is your friend.

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