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In reference to the scuffle caused in your last post, I JUST NOW remembered that FIVE MONTHS AGO, I nicely asked you to fill in your about me section, and not rapid fire post as much so people wouldn't fuss that much at you.
You still haven't bothered to do it!
You still haven't bothered to do it!
Note that this isn't a rapid fire spam post: I'm just pretty sure you're going to do it again in the future.
You invited me to fill out the 'about me' bit, but I haven't- I did a '5 things you didn't know about Gawii' blog instead.
Besides, with all respect what have your comments got to do with this blog? I've spent a whole afternoon (on and off) putting this blog together- In effect you are spamming.
What do you guys think about my blog?
Besides, with all respect what have your comments got to do with this blog? I've spent a whole afternoon (on and off) putting this blog together- In effect you are spamming.
What do you guys think about my blog?
I think your competitive online guys will naturally gravitate toward the most competitive teams.
Or maybe, the guys that follow competitive teams, end up really digging into the multiplayer scene, because their team is the "best" (statwise and passion wise)
I don't know that that's a region/sport specific thing, yeah? I haven't played alot of FIFA, but it looks to me that some clubs, even the ones that people get super passionate about, end up with pretty nasty OVR team stats. Like, to use your "OVR 49" local club (not yours specifically. sorry, I don't know any names aside from Manchester, tbh) against a "OVR 97" national club, that seems like you're setting yourself up for an online smashing.
As much of a Redskins legacy sort of fan I am(I don't follow so much anymore: but they're still my team), I'm pretty well aware of the statistical disadvantage they would put me in if I'm matched against The Patriots or The Eagles, with regards to raw video game stats.
Maybe those loyalists end up playing front-office/franchise mode more, yeah?
Or maybe, the guys that follow competitive teams, end up really digging into the multiplayer scene, because their team is the "best" (statwise and passion wise)
I don't know that that's a region/sport specific thing, yeah? I haven't played alot of FIFA, but it looks to me that some clubs, even the ones that people get super passionate about, end up with pretty nasty OVR team stats. Like, to use your "OVR 49" local club (not yours specifically. sorry, I don't know any names aside from Manchester, tbh) against a "OVR 97" national club, that seems like you're setting yourself up for an online smashing.
As much of a Redskins legacy sort of fan I am(I don't follow so much anymore: but they're still my team), I'm pretty well aware of the statistical disadvantage they would put me in if I'm matched against The Patriots or The Eagles, with regards to raw video game stats.
Maybe those loyalists end up playing front-office/franchise mode more, yeah?
why can't people like a team virtually? is it a crime :P? Buying the game somewhat supports the league (since they're getting paid to have games with the name on it). better then the people that only watch tv for games since they don't put anything towards it? ;p (not that there's anything wrong with that, just a parallel.
I don't think you have to live in a specific area to support or follow a team. I think you take the definition of support a bit too literally in that sense. I might not make it to the world cup, but I still support the German national team, because I think the American team is shit. So while I don't financially support the team with ticket sales I still follow their progress in tournaments and occasionally buy merchandise because I like them. If I play a FIFA game (for some ridiculous reason) I'd play as Germany because I'm more familiar with them.
I think that's the main reason the bigger teams have so many supporters, more people know the athletes by name and have seen their matches. I find it pretty elitist to say that only people from Manchester can claim to support the team. I'm sure when they get a fat revenue check from selling jerseys worldwide they aren't worried if the fans who bought them know about the suffering and history of their area. Furthermore, your argument that people should only support their local teams so that they can grow and improve is all fine and good if your you either 1)have a local team (soccer is poorly represented in America so most areas don't 2) your team is fun to watch.
Let's face it if a team isn't good than they likely aren't entertaining to watch. Why would I pay to see a match if I thought the team was terrible or uninteresting? Your assessment about American sports being more based on winning and profit than British sports is as silly as thinking you've somehow earned the special privilege of calling yourself a fan of a team just because you happened to be born in the region where they practice.
If your argument were the least bit valid than Manchester United would only be comprised of players who were born and raised in the area, regardless of if they were talented enough to compete. Since this is not the case I find your reasoning flawed and bid you good day.
I think that's the main reason the bigger teams have so many supporters, more people know the athletes by name and have seen their matches. I find it pretty elitist to say that only people from Manchester can claim to support the team. I'm sure when they get a fat revenue check from selling jerseys worldwide they aren't worried if the fans who bought them know about the suffering and history of their area. Furthermore, your argument that people should only support their local teams so that they can grow and improve is all fine and good if your you either 1)have a local team (soccer is poorly represented in America so most areas don't 2) your team is fun to watch.
Let's face it if a team isn't good than they likely aren't entertaining to watch. Why would I pay to see a match if I thought the team was terrible or uninteresting? Your assessment about American sports being more based on winning and profit than British sports is as silly as thinking you've somehow earned the special privilege of calling yourself a fan of a team just because you happened to be born in the region where they practice.
If your argument were the least bit valid than Manchester United would only be comprised of players who were born and raised in the area, regardless of if they were talented enough to compete. Since this is not the case I find your reasoning flawed and bid you good day.
@Zodiac Eclipse
I couldn't have said it better. But Germany?! LOL No, I can see why you support them.
@Gawii
I think you're a bit biased on this subject and reflect the matter upon yourself too much. You're born an living in Great Britain, the birthplace of football. I'm born on an Island with only 16000 inhabitants. If we all come to Old Trafford there are 60000 seats empty. I think your opinion would differ greatly if you weren't born in Manchester. I'm from The Netherlands and am a Liverpool supporter. I live in Amsterdam now and in the Dutch competition I'm supporting them but ultimately. I support Liverpool because I get that special feeling when I see them play. A feeling for something much more important. So nobody from outside of Manchester can love Man United? Rubbish. You can say what you want, those people can say they made a choice. You didn't even think about which club you like. A forced marriage usually isn't a very healthy relationship.
You know which country I support if it's England vs Holland? Once again it's all about a feeling. You can't force that feeling because of the place you are born.
@Magnalon
Can you for once write one comment on the subject of the blog and not three to five about your favorite subject 'banning people'? Dude, do that shit on your own website. There is a feature on Dtoid for these kind of things. They're called PM's. Send somebody a PM if you think you need to be a moral crusader. You're fucking commenting and linking to some question you asked him FIVE MONTHS AGO. And seriously dude, because you've asked for something it doesn't mean people have to do it. "I asked you to..." who do you think you are? It's fine if it really helps Destructoid but this is getting out of hand if you ask me. Commenting 2 times in rapid fire posting fashion and assuming that someone is maybe, eventually going to do something in the future which you don't like. You're not Nostradamus and this is not Minority Report.
What do you get in the end? Not people who change, stay on Dtoid and become great community member because you asked them to. People will leave because random people tell them to do stuff without having the decency to comment on the content of the blog. I could of course send you a PM as well but I think I had to be said and people should know of other opinions too. But I'll spend only one comment on the subject instead of a bazillion.
I couldn't have said it better. But Germany?! LOL No, I can see why you support them.
@Gawii
I think you're a bit biased on this subject and reflect the matter upon yourself too much. You're born an living in Great Britain, the birthplace of football. I'm born on an Island with only 16000 inhabitants. If we all come to Old Trafford there are 60000 seats empty. I think your opinion would differ greatly if you weren't born in Manchester. I'm from The Netherlands and am a Liverpool supporter. I live in Amsterdam now and in the Dutch competition I'm supporting them but ultimately. I support Liverpool because I get that special feeling when I see them play. A feeling for something much more important. So nobody from outside of Manchester can love Man United? Rubbish. You can say what you want, those people can say they made a choice. You didn't even think about which club you like. A forced marriage usually isn't a very healthy relationship.
You know which country I support if it's England vs Holland? Once again it's all about a feeling. You can't force that feeling because of the place you are born.
@Magnalon
Can you for once write one comment on the subject of the blog and not three to five about your favorite subject 'banning people'? Dude, do that shit on your own website. There is a feature on Dtoid for these kind of things. They're called PM's. Send somebody a PM if you think you need to be a moral crusader. You're fucking commenting and linking to some question you asked him FIVE MONTHS AGO. And seriously dude, because you've asked for something it doesn't mean people have to do it. "I asked you to..." who do you think you are? It's fine if it really helps Destructoid but this is getting out of hand if you ask me. Commenting 2 times in rapid fire posting fashion and assuming that someone is maybe, eventually going to do something in the future which you don't like. You're not Nostradamus and this is not Minority Report.
What do you get in the end? Not people who change, stay on Dtoid and become great community member because you asked them to. People will leave because random people tell them to do stuff without having the decency to comment on the content of the blog. I could of course send you a PM as well but I think I had to be said and people should know of other opinions too. But I'll spend only one comment on the subject instead of a bazillion.
I'm gonna have to agree in this case. Gawii kind of annoys me with his seeming tendency to argue instead of listen, but this blog does clearly have more effort put into it than last time. I'm not a sports guy so I can't exactly appreciate it, but there's effort and he's not spamming.
So yeah, it looks like a nice article but I have no appreciation for the subject. There do appear to be some people on D-Toid that do, though, so I guess there is room for a sports writer.
So yeah, it looks like a nice article but I have no appreciation for the subject. There do appear to be some people on D-Toid that do, though, so I guess there is room for a sports writer.
@Takeshi
Dude, chill the fuck out.
We can't always like everything about the PS3, smoke weed all day because it's legal, and be one big happy family.
This dude constantly pushes people's buttons, and certainly not mine. I have NEVER asked for a banning outside of Hoborg, but that was only because he blatantly broke the rules on a number of occasions, and flaunted it.
Dude, chill the fuck out.
We can't always like everything about the PS3, smoke weed all day because it's legal, and be one big happy family.
This dude constantly pushes people's buttons, and certainly not mine. I have NEVER asked for a banning outside of Hoborg, but that was only because he blatantly broke the rules on a number of occasions, and flaunted it.
@Takeshi
Also, you have a shit ton of your own ludicrous opinions, but as soon as someone that isn't part of the tight knight PS3 Friday Night Fights group points out one flaw it's OMG POOR TAKESHI TIME! I felt like this needed to be said (sound familiar?) I can do it too.
Not everyone is going to agree with you! Just deal with it!
Also, you have a shit ton of your own ludicrous opinions, but as soon as someone that isn't part of the tight knight PS3 Friday Night Fights group points out one flaw it's OMG POOR TAKESHI TIME! I felt like this needed to be said (sound familiar?) I can do it too.
Not everyone is going to agree with you! Just deal with it!
blagh - *knit
Anyways, you've ALWAYS had a problem with people who don't agree with every word you say (myself included, from day one), so I wouldn't expect less of a response from you.
Anyways, you've ALWAYS had a problem with people who don't agree with every word you say (myself included, from day one), so I wouldn't expect less of a response from you.
You know what, this just pisses me off.
If you check the comment log, you'll probably find TWICE as many helpful comments in the last 6 months from myself, holding new user's hands while others (your friends that you'll NEVER say shit to) just shit all over them.
I think ALL you do is read my Michi comments, and are completely oblivious to anytime I'm extremely cordial to a new user (fuck, I was cordial to MICHI). You'll see time and time again in the c-blogs "Magnalon is always helpful", or "I won't be as helpful as Magnalon here". I would have let that go if you actually responded to my arguments against some of the absurd statements you've made in the past, but of course, if I'm not in the FNF scene, I can go fuck myself, eh?
If you check the comment log, you'll probably find TWICE as many helpful comments in the last 6 months from myself, holding new user's hands while others (your friends that you'll NEVER say shit to) just shit all over them.
I think ALL you do is read my Michi comments, and are completely oblivious to anytime I'm extremely cordial to a new user (fuck, I was cordial to MICHI). You'll see time and time again in the c-blogs "Magnalon is always helpful", or "I won't be as helpful as Magnalon here". I would have let that go if you actually responded to my arguments against some of the absurd statements you've made in the past, but of course, if I'm not in the FNF scene, I can go fuck myself, eh?
@ Takeshi
"So nobody from outside of Manchester can love Man United?" Of course you can appreciate a team from another league- but to call yourself a 'supporter' is ludicrous. It shouldn't matter that your local team isn't a success. Why aren't they a success? Because people like you don't support them! It shouldn't matter if your local team is amateur, semi-pro or pro- they represent you at the end of the day and that is what counts.
What you just said is exactly what I'm talking about- you just don't appreciate what football (soccer) is really about.
As for being American and supporting Germany, I think that is a bit crap to be honest.Your Country represents you- so why 'support' a team that is not only about 2000 miles away, but was once at war with you? Not being disrespectful here mate, but you sound like a typical 'glory seeker.' Liking a team because they win things is not what a true football supporter is about- something that I don't think you'd fully understand.
"So nobody from outside of Manchester can love Man United?" Of course you can appreciate a team from another league- but to call yourself a 'supporter' is ludicrous. It shouldn't matter that your local team isn't a success. Why aren't they a success? Because people like you don't support them! It shouldn't matter if your local team is amateur, semi-pro or pro- they represent you at the end of the day and that is what counts.
What you just said is exactly what I'm talking about- you just don't appreciate what football (soccer) is really about.
As for being American and supporting Germany, I think that is a bit crap to be honest.Your Country represents you- so why 'support' a team that is not only about 2000 miles away, but was once at war with you? Not being disrespectful here mate, but you sound like a typical 'glory seeker.' Liking a team because they win things is not what a true football supporter is about- something that I don't think you'd fully understand.
@ Zodiac Eclipse
"is as silly as thinking you've somehow earned the special privilege of calling yourself a fan of a team just because you happened to be born in the region where they practice."
Please don't take this the wrong way, but this is what I would say is the 'typical' American viewpoint of someone not born and raised with the sport. You don't pick a team because they are great or doing well- you pick them because they represent your area- this is a typical European philosopy- as I discussed in my main blog.
"If your argument were the least bit valid than Manchester United would only be comprised of players who were born and raised in the area..." No, but the spine of the team and the basis of their success is built on local lads. Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Gary and Phillip Neville,Danny Welbeck and even Michael Owen were all born and raised within a short drive of Old Trafford. My brother, who's 20 years old now actually played for a while with Gigg's brother at semi pro level. This 'local spine' has been one of the reasons atributed to Manchester United's success.
You support Manchester United because you were born and raised in the area, or because your parents supported the club. There's a saying in England that goes; You can change your clothes, your religion even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
"is as silly as thinking you've somehow earned the special privilege of calling yourself a fan of a team just because you happened to be born in the region where they practice."
Please don't take this the wrong way, but this is what I would say is the 'typical' American viewpoint of someone not born and raised with the sport. You don't pick a team because they are great or doing well- you pick them because they represent your area- this is a typical European philosopy- as I discussed in my main blog.
"If your argument were the least bit valid than Manchester United would only be comprised of players who were born and raised in the area..." No, but the spine of the team and the basis of their success is built on local lads. Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Gary and Phillip Neville,Danny Welbeck and even Michael Owen were all born and raised within a short drive of Old Trafford. My brother, who's 20 years old now actually played for a while with Gigg's brother at semi pro level. This 'local spine' has been one of the reasons atributed to Manchester United's success.
You support Manchester United because you were born and raised in the area, or because your parents supported the club. There's a saying in England that goes; You can change your clothes, your religion even your wife, but you can never change your football club.
@Takeshi
You and I have been going at it a long while, so I just think we need to trade AIM/MSN info and talk it out.
You and I have been going at it a long while, so I just think we need to trade AIM/MSN info and talk it out.
lol@drama
Hey Takeshi I saw you playing Critter Crunch of PSN last night. Is it thoroughly enjoyable?
Hey Takeshi I saw you playing Critter Crunch of PSN last night. Is it thoroughly enjoyable?
@Primo
Haha, Takeshi has been making veiled insults at me for a few months now: it was bound to come out.
Haha, Takeshi has been making veiled insults at me for a few months now: it was bound to come out.
How is me supporting the German team crap? The American team doesn't represent me, they aren't elected officials or military personnel out serving their country by playing soccer on my behalf. You make it sound as though I should hate Germans forever because of a war that happened before I was born. Are you really this narrow-minded?
As for your philosophy I know many Germans who follow clubs that aren't the ones closest to them so maybe it's more of a British philosophy than a European one. Or maybe it just coincidentally happens to be your philosophy strictly because you grew up knowing your team and got lucky by living close to one who you liked. If you pick a team based on the area you live you aren't really picking anything, you're just accepting what you have and learning to deal with it.
Newsflash: Anyone can learn about the players and follow the matches and be as much of a fan as you claim to be. Thanks to the internet we now have something called a "global community" so your argument is pretty much worthless.
Also I still stand by my argument that if it was really all about the area where people lived than your team wouldn't need my German players to win.
As for your philosophy I know many Germans who follow clubs that aren't the ones closest to them so maybe it's more of a British philosophy than a European one. Or maybe it just coincidentally happens to be your philosophy strictly because you grew up knowing your team and got lucky by living close to one who you liked. If you pick a team based on the area you live you aren't really picking anything, you're just accepting what you have and learning to deal with it.
Newsflash: Anyone can learn about the players and follow the matches and be as much of a fan as you claim to be. Thanks to the internet we now have something called a "global community" so your argument is pretty much worthless.
Also I still stand by my argument that if it was really all about the area where people lived than your team wouldn't need my German players to win.
@ Zodiac Eclipse
You've just proven one of the points I was making in my blog. You obviously know fuck all about what being a true sports fan is all about. You're a 'Glory Seeker.' If you flipped this over and this was on a British, Italian, French, Spanish or even German forum you would be in flames now my friend.
You've just proven one of the points I was making in my blog. You obviously know fuck all about what being a true sports fan is all about. You're a 'Glory Seeker.' If you flipped this over and this was on a British, Italian, French, Spanish or even German forum you would be in flames now my friend.
@Gawii
Once again, easy for you to say I should support my local team, you're born in Manchester. I was born on an island which has right now (just looked it up for you) 900 males between 14 and 34 years of age. You can't possible think one can create a prize winning football club with that amount of people. My support wouldn't change that.
Zodiac brought up a great argument: "If you pick a team based on the area you live you aren't really picking anything, you're just accepting what you have and learning to deal with it." I'd rather support a team out of choice than because you just happened to be born in a particular city. Let's put it this way: Do you support Man United because you like them or because you were born there?
You honestly can't call me a glory seeker. I support Liverpool. The last time they won anything big was back in 2006. I also support the English National team which didn't even make it to the European Cup last year. Funny thing is that the Owner, Co-chairmen and Manager aren't from Manchester and only the Manager is born in the UK. So isn't your team controlled by glory seekers then? What about the player from other countries currently in Man United's squad?
@Magnalon
Thanks for making my point even clearer...
How very nice of you to also bring my friends into the discussion. They're my friends for a reason. I don't shit on their comment's blogs or statements because there is no reason for that. And please tell me what the PS3, my friends, FNF and even the Dutch laws on soft-drugs have to with this?
It's great to see you supplied so many responses that I can use.
"Dude, chill the fuck out."
"you have a shit ton of your own ludicrous opinions"
"Not everyone is going to agree with you! Just deal with it!"
To be fair I'm pretty chill about this all. I just said what I had to say, without going crazy.
May I give you a tip? Think about your comments for a second that way you don't have to comment 4 times in a row. It also comes across ways stronger if write one cohesive comment. You know with arguments that actually make sense and stay on topic.
I'm not gonna chat/talk to you about this. I've said everything I had to say. I don't agree with your methods just as much as you don't agree with so many others (Gawii for instance). Are you going to talk to them about it? Oh and I never read the comments on Michi's blog. So I don't know what you're talking about.
@Primo
It was great to see you online again! (and off and on and off and on :D) Critter Crunch is amazing! You should read Dtoid's review, they gave it a 9.5 if I'm correct. I thought it was going to be a rather simple puzzle game that would be fun for about an hour or so. I couldn't be more wrong about it. It's actually quite detailed with lots of online and offline modes. And boy, it's the cutest most adorable character I've seen in a long time. I thought nothing could surpass LBP's Sackboys but they did it. I think there's a demo coming next week but it's so cheap I guess you don't even have to wait for the demo.
Once again, easy for you to say I should support my local team, you're born in Manchester. I was born on an island which has right now (just looked it up for you) 900 males between 14 and 34 years of age. You can't possible think one can create a prize winning football club with that amount of people. My support wouldn't change that.
Zodiac brought up a great argument: "If you pick a team based on the area you live you aren't really picking anything, you're just accepting what you have and learning to deal with it." I'd rather support a team out of choice than because you just happened to be born in a particular city. Let's put it this way: Do you support Man United because you like them or because you were born there?
You honestly can't call me a glory seeker. I support Liverpool. The last time they won anything big was back in 2006. I also support the English National team which didn't even make it to the European Cup last year. Funny thing is that the Owner, Co-chairmen and Manager aren't from Manchester and only the Manager is born in the UK. So isn't your team controlled by glory seekers then? What about the player from other countries currently in Man United's squad?
@Magnalon
Thanks for making my point even clearer...
How very nice of you to also bring my friends into the discussion. They're my friends for a reason. I don't shit on their comment's blogs or statements because there is no reason for that. And please tell me what the PS3, my friends, FNF and even the Dutch laws on soft-drugs have to with this?
It's great to see you supplied so many responses that I can use.
"Dude, chill the fuck out."
"you have a shit ton of your own ludicrous opinions"
"Not everyone is going to agree with you! Just deal with it!"
To be fair I'm pretty chill about this all. I just said what I had to say, without going crazy.
May I give you a tip? Think about your comments for a second that way you don't have to comment 4 times in a row. It also comes across ways stronger if write one cohesive comment. You know with arguments that actually make sense and stay on topic.
I'm not gonna chat/talk to you about this. I've said everything I had to say. I don't agree with your methods just as much as you don't agree with so many others (Gawii for instance). Are you going to talk to them about it? Oh and I never read the comments on Michi's blog. So I don't know what you're talking about.
@Primo
It was great to see you online again! (and off and on and off and on :D) Critter Crunch is amazing! You should read Dtoid's review, they gave it a 9.5 if I'm correct. I thought it was going to be a rather simple puzzle game that would be fun for about an hour or so. I couldn't be more wrong about it. It's actually quite detailed with lots of online and offline modes. And boy, it's the cutest most adorable character I've seen in a long time. I thought nothing could surpass LBP's Sackboys but they did it. I think there's a demo coming next week but it's so cheap I guess you don't even have to wait for the demo.
@ Takeshi
So there are no football teams whatsoever that you can go and see? No amateur teams, or semi-pro teams? No team out there that you can really support and help?
''Supporting'' a side is to go and see them. How can you be a 'Liverpool' supporter and understand what 'Liverpool FC' is all about without growing up in Liverpool? Have you ever strolled along the side of the Mersey? Have you visited the Quayside and been to the Liver buldings? Have you experienced the days and weeks of banter with Everton supporters in the build up to a derby match? Do you regularly visit Anfield? No. No. No and No.
Zodiac is coming at it from what I would call the typical point of view of someone that knows fuck all about being a sports fan. For starters you don't ''pick'' a team, you're usually born into one. That team represents the area that you're from and what you are all about. What sort of bullshit point is the guy making there? Of course you have to deal with the team you're given in life.
Ask and Manchester City fan, or any other fan that has supported a team through the good times and the bad- it is all part and parcel of what makes the game great- and the fact that Manchester City have been relegated to practical obscurity and are now fighting at the top of the Premier League shows that the fans behind them have helped them through some tough times.
If all Manchester City fans were like Zodiac then they'd all go and pick a new, more interesteing team to watch when they were playing in League Two, and Manchester City would have faded into obscurity. What a load of bollocks.
I have a soft spot for 'Columbus Crew' believe it or not. A pen pal of mine was a supporter (in the true sense of the word) and we exchanged programmes and stuff. I followed their results from back when you used to have a 'shoot out' at the end of tied matches. I wouldn't come out claiming that I 'support' them though. I wouldn't change my avatar to 'The Crew' and have black and yellow all over my blog. That's because I've never been to a game, I am not from Columbus, nor do I know anything about Columbus.
If you cannot find your way to a clubs stadium without the aid of a map then you cannot claim to truly support them.
So there are no football teams whatsoever that you can go and see? No amateur teams, or semi-pro teams? No team out there that you can really support and help?
''Supporting'' a side is to go and see them. How can you be a 'Liverpool' supporter and understand what 'Liverpool FC' is all about without growing up in Liverpool? Have you ever strolled along the side of the Mersey? Have you visited the Quayside and been to the Liver buldings? Have you experienced the days and weeks of banter with Everton supporters in the build up to a derby match? Do you regularly visit Anfield? No. No. No and No.
Zodiac is coming at it from what I would call the typical point of view of someone that knows fuck all about being a sports fan. For starters you don't ''pick'' a team, you're usually born into one. That team represents the area that you're from and what you are all about. What sort of bullshit point is the guy making there? Of course you have to deal with the team you're given in life.
Ask and Manchester City fan, or any other fan that has supported a team through the good times and the bad- it is all part and parcel of what makes the game great- and the fact that Manchester City have been relegated to practical obscurity and are now fighting at the top of the Premier League shows that the fans behind them have helped them through some tough times.
If all Manchester City fans were like Zodiac then they'd all go and pick a new, more interesteing team to watch when they were playing in League Two, and Manchester City would have faded into obscurity. What a load of bollocks.
I have a soft spot for 'Columbus Crew' believe it or not. A pen pal of mine was a supporter (in the true sense of the word) and we exchanged programmes and stuff. I followed their results from back when you used to have a 'shoot out' at the end of tied matches. I wouldn't come out claiming that I 'support' them though. I wouldn't change my avatar to 'The Crew' and have black and yellow all over my blog. That's because I've never been to a game, I am not from Columbus, nor do I know anything about Columbus.
If you cannot find your way to a clubs stadium without the aid of a map then you cannot claim to truly support them.
@ CWal 37
Not at all- I am sure any true supporter of any football club at any level would agree with me from Premiership level down to Semi-Pro. If anyone is being 'elitist' it is the glory seekers out there that only pick a club because they are a 'big name' or doing well.
Not at all- I am sure any true supporter of any football club at any level would agree with me from Premiership level down to Semi-Pro. If anyone is being 'elitist' it is the glory seekers out there that only pick a club because they are a 'big name' or doing well.
@ Gawii,
why don't you support Citeh? They've suffered over the years because too many people in Manchester choose to support the most successful team: United.
Personally, living in a city full of United fans (London), I can agree with what you are saying, but I also think that there are various reasons why people support the clubs they do - and it doesn't always need to be about the area they are from.
For instance, many black people have grown up supporting Liverpool - no matter where they are from - due to the fact that John Barnes was such a hero for their community back in the 1980s. I think that is a perfectly valid reason to support a team, whether you're born and raised on the Mersey or on the beaches of Jamaica. Takeshi supports Liverpool because Dirk Kuyt plays for them (kidding!).
Also, in many countries you don't get to see a shit team like.... say... Fulham (hah, Primo!!) on the TV so they end up supporting GREAT clubs like Arsenal, who are shown along with your Barcelonas etc.
Forget Chelsea: the song we sing to their fans is "where were you when you were shit?" because they have crawled out of the woodwork over the past five years. Strange that.
The fact of the matter is, the smaller teams are failing now because any time they end up with a half-decent player, money will talk and he'll be bought up be a team in the higher divisions... this leads to a domino effect ending in the quality of football being much poorer at the lower end of the scale.
As someone who was born and raised five minutes walk from Highbury (ten from Emirates haha), I can say hat I'm very lucky to have a great local team, but I wouldn't begrudge somebody 'supporting' the same team just because they enjoy the way we play or are growing up idolising Cesc Fabregas.
why don't you support Citeh? They've suffered over the years because too many people in Manchester choose to support the most successful team: United.
Personally, living in a city full of United fans (London), I can agree with what you are saying, but I also think that there are various reasons why people support the clubs they do - and it doesn't always need to be about the area they are from.
For instance, many black people have grown up supporting Liverpool - no matter where they are from - due to the fact that John Barnes was such a hero for their community back in the 1980s. I think that is a perfectly valid reason to support a team, whether you're born and raised on the Mersey or on the beaches of Jamaica. Takeshi supports Liverpool because Dirk Kuyt plays for them (kidding!).
Also, in many countries you don't get to see a shit team like.... say... Fulham (hah, Primo!!) on the TV so they end up supporting GREAT clubs like Arsenal, who are shown along with your Barcelonas etc.
Forget Chelsea: the song we sing to their fans is "where were you when you were shit?" because they have crawled out of the woodwork over the past five years. Strange that.
The fact of the matter is, the smaller teams are failing now because any time they end up with a half-decent player, money will talk and he'll be bought up be a team in the higher divisions... this leads to a domino effect ending in the quality of football being much poorer at the lower end of the scale.
As someone who was born and raised five minutes walk from Highbury (ten from Emirates haha), I can say hat I'm very lucky to have a great local team, but I wouldn't begrudge somebody 'supporting' the same team just because they enjoy the way we play or are growing up idolising Cesc Fabregas.
