With the popularity of message boards and blogs, people have found new ways to bitch about pretty much everything... but gaming retail seems to be at the epicenter of the whining.
Yes, we all know that GameStop has some less-than-ethical business practices. We get it. You should make threads like these into drinking games; every time you read a "GameStop sold me a used game as new" complaint, have a drink. You'll be an alcoholic in no time. What's even better is when people list solutions that seem plausible until you figure in the fact that implementing these solutions might, you know, cost money.
For example: Yeah, let's buy an assload of clamshells. Then, after that initial charge for some 5,000 stores, we'll pay staff to put the games in those things. We'll slow down point-of-sale transactions by fighting with the damned things to open them. That's a stellar idea for the busy season... who doesn't love waiting in line for even more time because the damned clamshell key won't work right?
What gamers fail to remember is that they are the cause of many of these problems to begin with. After all, during the NES era, you could return games to retailers, opened or not. Of course, it was expected that gamers were only going to return defective items... but then gamers became skilled and started blowing through games in less than a week... so they kept returning them and getting other games without having to pay anything extra. Retailers became ignorant rental locations.
Retailers smartened up. Policies were changed. Gamers lost a cheap loophole, and justifiably so.
Let's also not forget that the game gamers who bitch and complain about GameStop still shop there. Sure, you hear, "I'm not buying another new game from there. I hate their policies. They're rip-off artists." That attitude lasts until a new release doesn't show up on time at a big-box store and they really, really want to play it. Way to go with that 7-day boycott. That'll show 'em.
Here's another thing. Stop whining about poor trade-in values. Please. "Waaah... those bastards only gave me $8 for Katamari Damacy and they're selling it for $30! Screw them!" Here's a thought: Just say "no" to trades, if the values are too low. After all, why bother taking into account that selling new games only nets next to nothing in terms of profit. GameStop is a business, and they exist to make money. I'm sure that many of you want to open a video game store of your very own, but unless you want to go out of business within the first three months, you're going to find that marking up used games considerably over what you pay for them is a necessary practice, unless you want to charge $70 for your new games instead of $60.
Listen... I'll agree that GameStop isn't perfect. FuncoLand was far superior in terms of relating to gamers... they actually let you try games before buying and they sold display copies for a 10% discount at times, for example. Game Crazy tried to emulate that model, but has so far fallen well short with chronically late arrivals for new releases, which makes them less attractive for core gamers.
But, you know something? Griping on a message board only goes so far. Actions speak louder than words.
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Griping on a message board only goes so far, indeed.
So fuck GameStop. If you want to sell your games try Craigslist (not really) or eBay. Hell, try the forums here before you go to GameStop.
GameStop: Fuck 'em!
cranky old people are funny
But from what I gathered in the first two paragraphs, you're a gamestop shill.
If you were in business for yourself, and you knew that you could sell a used game for $45 after paying $18 for it, could you honestly say that you would not do it?
You're a liar if you say that you wouldn't, unless you don't like money. Sure, their business tactics are greedy, but they're obviously effective.
You also can't call it "raping the customer"... customers give consent to GameStop to resell the game that they trade in; rapists obtain no such consent when they violate another person.
Right.
Also, fuck this guy's lame arguments.
He glossed right over the "GameStop sold me a used game as new" part. There's no excuse for that.
As for big box retailers getting games late? That's one of the reasons I started going to the box stores. My local EB couldn't get a new release on time to save their lives.
And when discussing trade-in values, the example he uses is a $30 game. How about a $60 game? We're not getting much more than 8 bucks for them too. Saying "no" to trades? Did that a loooong time ago.
I am sure that money has something to do with that, not to mention possibly increased visibility as far as in-store advertising goes.
Remember, too, that GameStop is a gaming specialty store-- going with a collector's edition there makes more sense and has a better chance of selling well than getting buried behind a bunch of other stuff at a big box location.
I would agree that it would make more sense to more widely distribute these collector's editions at other locations, though.
What's a game gamer?
Also, fuck gamestop.
Even if acquiring that money involves some less-than-scrupulous business tactics.
You left.. that part out...
Not only that, but this whole ESBR mess (don't get me wrong, parents are the number one reason this system fails) plays a big part in the way Gamestop sells and advertises to kids, granted they've done alot to try and redeem themselves while fixing this.
If it didn't get my games in so much trouble I wouldn't care what they played.
OK... then let's go there.
If you are offered a display copy, why not just decline? You don't have to buy it.
If you think that the copy you're buying was previously used or opened and is now shrinkwrapped, ask for a manager and tell them that you're going to open and inspect the game before taking it home.
If you're proactive, this shouldn't be an issue. We know why GameStop opens some copies of new games-- for display, because it's cheaper than ordering millions of plastic clamshells or special-ordering plastic slats like TRU used to do years ago.
Do you have a hard on for Gamestop? Or is it for Capitalism in general? Yes, of course, if I was in business I would want to obtain as much profit as possible, but from the otherside of the fence it is fucking bullshit!
This arguement is years old, that's why we stopped going to these stores as kids. We're adults and we fully realize the shenanigans of your (or their) companies money grubbing tactics, which is why we dont buy from there anymore.
You're really ranting on about people that shop at your store and have no connection with this site.
Please, move along.
I got tired of dealing with the hassles associated with purchasing from EB Games.
Even if acquiring that money involves some less-than-scrupulous business tactics."
That's the bottom line. I probably could have worded my entry better, but it's mind-numbing to me how so many people refuse to understand this concept and instead choose to post thoughtless, drone-like comments about how much GS sucks and so on.
A lot of these experiences are anecdotal, as well. One commented here about how his store never got new releases in on time... I've not seen that in my area, but if it's happening to him, that's a legitimate gripe. I would take my business elsewhere, too.
I look at GS from a somewhat different perspective, and it's because I've largely had good shopping experiences there. I know why some policies are in place (gutting, for example) and I understand it. I don't necessarily like everything that they do, and I do think that a lesser emphasis has been placed on the gamer than we've seen, but at least they're still focused on gaming... whereas other retailers just aren't.
Excellent write up. You have many good points that I agree with completely. I wish more of the c-blogs were this interesting to read. Keep it up, brother.
Please Shut the Fuck UP!!!!!! We could care less about GS. It is a shitty corporation. Why do you love them so much? DO you work for them?? Why argue with the people that are getting fucked out of their money everytime they purchase something from GS???
Why are you trying to stick up for them? OMG, did they brainwash you????
Bottomline: Fuck GameStop, EB, or whatever the fuck they call themselves these days.
End of story.
I'll disregard your first infantile comment and respond to the ones that actually show a little substance.
For starters, if you "could care less" about GS, why are you still commenting on this one blog entry? Does it bother you that I say actually makes sense? Mmmmm. Yeah.
I also don't understand how people are allegedly "getting fucked out of their money". It's a conscious decision. Yes or no. As a consumer, you have the right to not buy something if you feel as though you're getting the shaft. If nothing else, you are defending consumer indifference, which is arguably just as bad.
As I mentioned, there are some people who have legitimate gripes, and that's fine... but some of these incessant complaints bear some consumer responsibility, in my opinion. People are not slaves to GameStop's policies; they have the right to shop there or not.
Shark attack, wrongful arrest and cavity search, hemorrhoids, overactive funnybone, putting face in fan, giant paper cut, stomping on real turtles, G4, Jack Thompson, RROD, getting tased bro, parking tickets, getting hit by thrown monkey feces -- that should be pretty much everything.
This arguement is years old, that's why we stopped going to these stores as kids. We're adults and we fully realize the shenanigans of your (or their) companies money grubbing tactics, which is why we dont buy from there anymore.
You're really ranting on about people that shop at your store and have no connection with this site.
Please, move along.
uhhh, except not really, now that they are a monopoly and have consumed all of the superior mall-chain video game stores. GS is corporate bullshit and I hope ebay and goozex run them out of business. Their employees are retarded and rarely informed gamers, but a lot of people have no other options than to go there, where they are coerced into buying shit they don't need.
You know the only reason I need to say "fuck gamestop?"
the fact that people forget to pick up their pre-orders is BUILT INTO COMPANY REVENUE STREAMS. Basically they RELY on STEALING MONEY from forgotten preorders.
take your defense of huge multi-national corporations elsewhere, thank you
While you could have complained in the right manner and not been considered an oxymoron, you chose to do the exact same thing you have a problem with: Whine like a little bitch.
I need to model that up lol
I shop at Gamestop because I can guarantee myself a copy of the game the day it is out, big-box retailers have failed me too many times on release day. And if I'm short of cash, I can unload an old game or two. The trade values aren't nearly as poor as people claim they are, and you won't see much difference at any other company that takes trade (Blockbuster, FYE for instance).
And I think it's funny people discuss corporate greed while singing the praises of big-box retailers. I've worked for Best Buy and graveyards at Target, and I can tell you, Gamestop has nothing on them.
Employees at these big retailers are often forced to throw TVs and stereos off the truck and around the back rooms to make sure they stay efficient and on schedule. Would you rather have a new game that's been opened once to create a display box, or a TV that's been shaken more than a crying baby?
I just hate stupid employees. I was buying a ds game in there, and sat and watched while the guy tried to put it in sideways for five minutes. Keep in mind, this is after he sold me an empty case, which I narrowly avoided taking home by checking it in the car. A winner was him.
And @Snailb, You're an X-Bot, you have no right to attempt to make any type of argument when it comes to games and/or gaming. Anyone with any sort of intelligence and real credibility in the gaming world won't even listen to what a 360 owner is saying, let alone actually pay close enough attention to take their advice. If you're stupid enough to get ripped off and like it, you're not smart enough to run with the big dogs.