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I guess I fall into a category of guys who really don't give a damn what gender a person is when it comes to games.
About as annoying than the sluts who lick gaming devices for a Myspace picture are the ones who go out of their way to brag, as if anybody really cares, "GUESS WHAT BOYZ, IM A GURL AND YES IM A GAMRR! DEAL W/ IT!".
I was LANing with a group of friends on MW2 a couple years ago when we got put against this team of idiots that included some cunt who kept taunting and bragging about how she was a woman, and how hilarious it was - whenever they'd win a match - that we got beat by a girl. They won maybe 30% of the time we faced them, but it didn't stop her from acting like she was hot shit for being a level-whatever Prestige and how we obviously weren't as good because some of us weren't. P.S. we had a girl on our team too.
STFUAJPG, men AND women. Christ.
About as annoying than the sluts who lick gaming devices for a Myspace picture are the ones who go out of their way to brag, as if anybody really cares, "GUESS WHAT BOYZ, IM A GURL AND YES IM A GAMRR! DEAL W/ IT!".
I was LANing with a group of friends on MW2 a couple years ago when we got put against this team of idiots that included some cunt who kept taunting and bragging about how she was a woman, and how hilarious it was - whenever they'd win a match - that we got beat by a girl. They won maybe 30% of the time we faced them, but it didn't stop her from acting like she was hot shit for being a level-whatever Prestige and how we obviously weren't as good because some of us weren't. P.S. we had a girl on our team too.
STFUAJPG, men AND women. Christ.
@ flintcsci
Dude, calm down. Slut? Cunt? those are unnecessary words to describe them.
I think the lick pics are suppose to be funny. Some of my friends did it; they have nothing to prove as gamers, they're just doing it 'cause it's fun and a bit sexy.
Dude, calm down. Slut? Cunt? those are unnecessary words to describe them.
I think the lick pics are suppose to be funny. Some of my friends did it; they have nothing to prove as gamers, they're just doing it 'cause it's fun and a bit sexy.
I thought I smelled the rotting carcass of a dead horse when I opened up the CBlogs today. Can't we put the bat down and let the poor beast rest in peace?
Anyway, the reasons behind why men act the way they do towards female gamers has changed. Yes, in the past there was a bit of sexism since gaming was generally a male hobby. It was not uncommon for men to assume a woman wouldn't know much about technology or gaming since throughout most of history, science and technology were interests that generally only men really had. And of course a man is going to be aroused to some extent if someone of the opposite gender is sharing his interest. However, that honestly isn't the case anymore.
Nowadays, the attitude has turned more into frustration. Why? Because a majority of the female gaming community is downright annoying as hell. There is no real reason to proclaim your gender for any reason. The whole "yeah I'm a girl and I play games" in a profile or when jumping into a multiplayer thing is childish and unnecessary. The defense is that women who say this feel oppressed by being a "minority" and need to make it clear that a woman can do anything a man can. Well, you can prove the same point without shoving it down people's throats by simply just playing the game and showing your knowledge like every other individual. It would be like if a chef walked around their restaurant saying, "Yeah, I'm a guy and I can cook" instead of actually preparing delicious dishes.
It also does not help that a lot of women do use gaming as a way to feed their hunger for attention. From personal experience, I've had more issues with other girls when gaming than I've had with men. I've been kicked by other girls from games because I asked what everyone was up to and had guys reply to me. I was stealing her attention from her, she screamed at me, and then kicked me. I've had other women go on long rants about how I'm a bad person for not supporting "gurl gamer power!" by joining a female only clan or saying that girls are better. I've been banned by sites with feminist admins because I agreed with a man's opinion instead of a woman's opinion.
And I don't think I need to talk about the obvious, half-naked attention whores.
As you can see, the main reason why women aren't taking seriously regarding gaming is because a vast majority lack the maturity to justify being respected in such a way. I promise you that online gaming would be far more enjoyable if most of them kept the idea of playing games for fun in their mind over the need to try to prove a point.
Anyway, the reasons behind why men act the way they do towards female gamers has changed. Yes, in the past there was a bit of sexism since gaming was generally a male hobby. It was not uncommon for men to assume a woman wouldn't know much about technology or gaming since throughout most of history, science and technology were interests that generally only men really had. And of course a man is going to be aroused to some extent if someone of the opposite gender is sharing his interest. However, that honestly isn't the case anymore.
Nowadays, the attitude has turned more into frustration. Why? Because a majority of the female gaming community is downright annoying as hell. There is no real reason to proclaim your gender for any reason. The whole "yeah I'm a girl and I play games" in a profile or when jumping into a multiplayer thing is childish and unnecessary. The defense is that women who say this feel oppressed by being a "minority" and need to make it clear that a woman can do anything a man can. Well, you can prove the same point without shoving it down people's throats by simply just playing the game and showing your knowledge like every other individual. It would be like if a chef walked around their restaurant saying, "Yeah, I'm a guy and I can cook" instead of actually preparing delicious dishes.
It also does not help that a lot of women do use gaming as a way to feed their hunger for attention. From personal experience, I've had more issues with other girls when gaming than I've had with men. I've been kicked by other girls from games because I asked what everyone was up to and had guys reply to me. I was stealing her attention from her, she screamed at me, and then kicked me. I've had other women go on long rants about how I'm a bad person for not supporting "gurl gamer power!" by joining a female only clan or saying that girls are better. I've been banned by sites with feminist admins because I agreed with a man's opinion instead of a woman's opinion.
And I don't think I need to talk about the obvious, half-naked attention whores.
As you can see, the main reason why women aren't taking seriously regarding gaming is because a vast majority lack the maturity to justify being respected in such a way. I promise you that online gaming would be far more enjoyable if most of them kept the idea of playing games for fun in their mind over the need to try to prove a point.
Kinda speaking to the choir here, bro. This is probably one of the blogs you shouldn't cross-post without realizing the community you're talking to.
@CeliaCrazed
Sorry to say I have seen it in this community a lot.
@flintcsci
Sex doesnt make a difference to me as long as they are decent people and have something thoughtful to say.
@stephanie k
Thanks for your thoughts although i dont think this is a dead horse yet. I've seen several articles like the ones I eluded to within the past couple of months.
Sorry to say I have seen it in this community a lot.
@flintcsci
Sex doesnt make a difference to me as long as they are decent people and have something thoughtful to say.
@stephanie k
Thanks for your thoughts although i dont think this is a dead horse yet. I've seen several articles like the ones I eluded to within the past couple of months.
@GATTACAST
Ha! I guess I should have been more specific. The choir I'm talking about is the Cblog and forum members. Frontpagers are....well, some of them are alright I guess -__-
Ha! I guess I should have been more specific. The choir I'm talking about is the Cblog and forum members. Frontpagers are....well, some of them are alright I guess -__-
Stephanie - I don't think the majority of female gamers act this way. It's just that we SEE so many female gamers act out of line for attention so we feel this is reality in most cases. But it's not. It's a select few that continue to cry out for attention via pictures and the other methods you listed.
It's a sad fact that gender discrimination DOES occur in gaming. While I don't feel the need to "prove" a point about my skills as a female, it's hurtful when others discriminate against me because of my gender. And vice versa - it's annoying when men "go easy" on me or get distracted from the game to talk to me because I'm female.
We've stepped into another world that doesn't quite know how to deal with us yet - and it's only further proven by these blogs about female gamers. Just the fact that we even have to say "hey, these are just normal gamers, doing normal gaming things, let's leave it at that" proves that we're not fully integrated.
I just hope that this whole attention-seeking girl gamer thing blows over in a few years when those girls grow up and learn that it's not a special ability to look attractive and hold a controller - it's just bad behavior. The younger generation is growing up with gaming almost as a given - more and more girls are playing DS and consoles just like everyone else. By the time they're our age, I hope this whole divide is gone and they can just BE.
It's a sad fact that gender discrimination DOES occur in gaming. While I don't feel the need to "prove" a point about my skills as a female, it's hurtful when others discriminate against me because of my gender. And vice versa - it's annoying when men "go easy" on me or get distracted from the game to talk to me because I'm female.
We've stepped into another world that doesn't quite know how to deal with us yet - and it's only further proven by these blogs about female gamers. Just the fact that we even have to say "hey, these are just normal gamers, doing normal gaming things, let's leave it at that" proves that we're not fully integrated.
I just hope that this whole attention-seeking girl gamer thing blows over in a few years when those girls grow up and learn that it's not a special ability to look attractive and hold a controller - it's just bad behavior. The younger generation is growing up with gaming almost as a given - more and more girls are playing DS and consoles just like everyone else. By the time they're our age, I hope this whole divide is gone and they can just BE.
... what Celica said. There are a lot of women here in the c-blogs... and we're no different than the men (well, except that we have no dangly bits!... but in terms of gaming, yeah, we're just gamers).
Most of the female avatars I see within games I just assume are guys lying about their gender or choosing it for a legitimate reason. One dude I knew had a clan for Halo: Reach and everyone was female in game so that they could assume that if they heard a teammate sprinting, their breathing would indicate which gender and thus help determine whether a friend is nearby. It works well because most people are not using female avatars.
A gamer is a gamer. Does it really matter if they have "dangly bits" or not? I don't think so and I hate it when dudes make a scene out of it. I came to play the game, not cause problems.
A gamer is a gamer. Does it really matter if they have "dangly bits" or not? I don't think so and I hate it when dudes make a scene out of it. I came to play the game, not cause problems.
thanks for weighing @Caiters and @Elsa
i know my tone in this post was ranty (which i rarely do), but i think my point is in total agreement with you guys. i wish it was as simple as it is in my circles where there is no "gaming" distinction between the male and female. unfortunately the gaming community at large is not there. i've seen some of the "figure out girls" posts here in the C-blogs and other places recently... thus my post.
i don't think most girls that game act in a salacious way, but the few that do communicate a message to the men who think they can apply that attitude to all girl gamers.
my main point was for the men to stop with their assumptions about women gamers. people are just too individual to figure out like that.
i know my tone in this post was ranty (which i rarely do), but i think my point is in total agreement with you guys. i wish it was as simple as it is in my circles where there is no "gaming" distinction between the male and female. unfortunately the gaming community at large is not there. i've seen some of the "figure out girls" posts here in the C-blogs and other places recently... thus my post.
i don't think most girls that game act in a salacious way, but the few that do communicate a message to the men who think they can apply that attitude to all girl gamers.
my main point was for the men to stop with their assumptions about women gamers. people are just too individual to figure out like that.
You mean women aren't objects placed solely on this earth for my enjoyment and they can have hobbies, even thoughts of their own? When the hell did that happen?
It's because we let Obama in, isn't it.
EVERYTHING DUKE NUKEM TAUGHT ME WAS A LIE!
It's because we let Obama in, isn't it.
EVERYTHING DUKE NUKEM TAUGHT ME WAS A LIE!
Eh sorry, I wasn't really giving you enough credit here :)
I kinda get what you're saying but I think it's normal that you would want your significant other to share some of your hobbies whether it's video games, tv shows, sports or anything really. I'd say video games require a larger amount of time than most other hobbies to fully enjoy and it'd be better if the two of you can share your time and experiences together.
I guess it depends on the couple though. On my ultimate frisbee team, most of my teammates are married. Some of them have spouses on the team because they want to spend time together and share the experience. Some of my other teammates refuse to let their other half play because they want some boundaries. I'd think the same would go with other hobbies as well.
Anyways I'll try to be less snippy and more constructive next time....
I kinda get what you're saying but I think it's normal that you would want your significant other to share some of your hobbies whether it's video games, tv shows, sports or anything really. I'd say video games require a larger amount of time than most other hobbies to fully enjoy and it'd be better if the two of you can share your time and experiences together.
I guess it depends on the couple though. On my ultimate frisbee team, most of my teammates are married. Some of them have spouses on the team because they want to spend time together and share the experience. Some of my other teammates refuse to let their other half play because they want some boundaries. I'd think the same would go with other hobbies as well.
Anyways I'll try to be less snippy and more constructive next time....
