An article up on Time's website has upset me. A judge in New Jersey denied a couple the right to adopt a child for the fact that they were atheists. She said that the couple would force their child to not believe in a supreme being, and that not giving the child religious freedom would not be an adequate way in which to raise it. I am an atheist, and I'm not shy about it. I am not one to go out looking to argue with people who have religion, although I know there are atheists like that. I've always believed in just letting others believe whatever they want. Who am I to judge?
I thought we were out of the dark ages. It's disgusting that parents can be denied the right to adopt a child due to their religious preference. If the parents were devout Christians, would they have been denied a child because they wouldn't allow it to deny the existence of a supreme being? This prejudice towards atheists needs to end. Believe in whatever you want, just don't encroach upon the rights of others because their beliefs differ. I don't want to sound cliche, but can't we all just get along?
with that out of the way i just want to throw my two cents in.. i don't believe in a god. i don't consider myself an atheist. i just don't have any facts so why cast a vote eh? my point in why i think the judge is correct and why you are also correct is that an atheist is more prone to telling there underlings (kids) that there really is no god and everyone is a lair and blah blah blah.. then a christian. I think with a christian up bringing with religion being all around the child they would be more incline to explore the possibility of a higher power. And to counter that who is saying a chistian family wouldn't smother there child into one belief? So really it depends on the person. But if you were saying someone is fit to raise a child then you are saying that whatever there choices are would be acceptable. So religion shouldn't really come into play when talking adoption. i could go on forever on this topic but meh. i'm bored.
They should be able to adopt a child regardless of religous affiliation. Although, if they teach the kid atheist values and that God isn't real that's kind of fucked up. It's a double standard of mine, but I feel you should either teach the kid religion or nothing at all.Just don't tell them God isn't real. Don't mention God, and just leave it at that until they ask. That kid won't have lots of friends during his/her younger years if he goes round saying God isn't real. Other parents wont be happy. My kids are Catholic.
So it's okay to force a child to believe what you believe? But it's not okay to force a child to not believe what other's believe? That makes a lot of sense. *slaps head*
Fucking stupid. Let them have a kid, it's bullshit to say they can't just because they don't believe in God. What next? Are they going to remove children from a home if they find out you told them Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy don't exist?
Yeah, this case occurred between Loving v. Virginia (1967, prohibiting laws against racial intermarriage) and Roe v. Wade (1973). Things were a little different then.
I never bothered to read the actual article, I just went by FiveStar's comments. Seriously though, I still find it believable in todays society with how this country is over religion especially Christianity.
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What an asshole. I hope she gets fired or disbarred or whatever happens to shitty judges.
Well no adopting children for me either way. They'll take up too much of my gaming :D
i didn't know this was "soap-box-toid".
with that out of the way i just want to throw my two cents in.. i don't believe in a god. i don't consider myself an atheist. i just don't have any facts so why cast a vote eh? my point in why i think the judge is correct and why you are also correct is that an atheist is more prone to telling there underlings (kids) that there really is no god and everyone is a lair and blah blah blah.. then a christian. I think with a christian up bringing with religion being all around the child they would be more incline to explore the possibility of a higher power. And to counter that who is saying a chistian family wouldn't smother there child into one belief? So really it depends on the person. But if you were saying someone is fit to raise a child then you are saying that whatever there choices are would be acceptable. So religion shouldn't really come into play when talking adoption. i could go on forever on this topic but meh. i'm bored.
also, gaming?
They should be able to adopt a child regardless of religous affiliation. Although, if they teach the kid atheist values and that God isn't real that's kind of fucked up. It's a double standard of mine, but I feel you should either teach the kid religion or nothing at all.Just don't tell them God isn't real. Don't mention God, and just leave it at that until they ask. That kid won't have lots of friends during his/her younger years if he goes round saying God isn't real. Other parents wont be happy. My kids are Catholic.
"She said... that not giving the child religious freedom would not be an adequate way in which to raise it."
Yet, she persecutes this couple based on their religion. Cruel, cruel irony.
"i didn't know this was "soap-box-toid". "
Yeah, I'm completely aware. This has nothing to do with gaming, but what the hell.
That Jesus pic made me lol and then feel bad about it.
yeah its cool. just wanted to be the first ass here to say something about it thought it was at least 37% clever.
So it's okay to force a child to believe what you believe? But it's not okay to force a child to not believe what other's believe? That makes a lot of sense. *slaps head*
Fucking stupid. Let them have a kid, it's bullshit to say they can't just because they don't believe in God. What next? Are they going to remove children from a home if they find out you told them Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy don't exist?
Check the date of the article.
The article was written in 1970.
And just so you all know, here is the results of the appeal.
http://www.americanadoptions.com/adoption/article_view?article_id=2435&state=NJ&court_case=1
Somebody posted this on FARK, but yeah... scary to think that this could still be relevant and believeable.
Wait, what? He can't actually do that, I don't think. Can he?
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Oh. 1970. Fuck, people. Check your shit. That picture is LOL, though.
LOL@those who can't read. The article is nearly 40 years old.
Yeah, this case occurred between Loving v. Virginia (1967, prohibiting laws against racial intermarriage) and Roe v. Wade (1973). Things were a little different then.
LOL, Tim and Max just pwned everyone who got upset over this. Fivestar, when can we expect your blog protesting the Vietnam War?
Cool it honkies. I may have been a putz about this bogus hearing, but ya'll need to cool your jets, ya dig? I'll catch you on the flip side.
I'm still waiting for Moses V. Pharoah to show up.
Cool it honkies. I may have been a putz about this bogus hearing, but ya'll need to cool your jets, ya dig? I'll catch you on the flip side.
Who talks like that? Honestly?
LOL
I never bothered to read the actual article, I just went by FiveStar's comments. Seriously though, I still find it believable in todays society with how this country is over religion especially Christianity.
god must've bribed the judge so that the atheist would join him. it's the only reasonable explanation
They should've told the judge they were pastafarians. But I guess that came along after the seventies.