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I am a halo fanboy.
FinnE | 3:40 PM on 05.29.2009 25 comments


I said it. despite all the flak that halo gets (likely because of its extreme popularity) I love it to death. in the first halo, I was devastated when I realized that I had inadvertently released the flood. I felt betrayed when I found out that guilty spark had manipulated me to destroy all of humanity and the covenant by leading me to believe that halo would solve the problem of the flood. but despite all of the ingenuity of halo, I think halo 3 is a masterpiece all its own. in terms of narrative, the game is well done but relatively traditional and conventional, and as such, it isn't necessarily what I admire. I admire its execution. even though halo 3 didn't really do anything other sci-fi mediums hadn't done before, what it did do was execute those elements to the point of perfection. the integration of a tremendously composed score, filmic construction of its cinematic sequences, and the character development (with cortana and master chief specifically) are all uniquely done, with great attention paid to every detail. and that is before the multiplayer.

thus, I am super excited for halo 3: odst even though I don't know much about it. I've seen the trailers, I've read the articles, but I'm still unclear if its supposed to be an entirely new game meant to replace halo 3 or if its supposed to just build upon what halo 3 has already established. for instance, I imagine the campaign in odst will be entirely new. but the multiplayer has similarities with halo 3's current state of play. half the mythic map pack came out a while ago in halo 3, but the other half is coming out with odst. the achievements for recon armor overlap. but....odst isn't supposed to have spartans, which are the basis of multiplayer in halo 3. so the question remains for me whether or not odst's multiplayer is going to replace the multiplayer of halo 3. I'm so confused.



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Brando's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 15:56
Brando
If your going to continue to post this stuff in the blogs instead of the forums I recommend that you capitalize your sentences and throw in a few pictures. Just saying.
megatomm's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 15:56
megatomm
that took balls to say that on here man ;)
also, your avatar is amazing!
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 16:02
ZombiePlatypus
I like Halo. I haven't played it in a while, but I like it.
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 16:17
Half left
@Brando:

If you're going to criticise someone's grammar I recommend you use the correct "you're". Just saying ;).
Messer's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 16:28
Messer
It's going to be OK, and I mean it most sincere.
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 16:30
Phantom Spaceman
ROFL at "character development" in Halo.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 16:34
Chris Carter
@Phantom
I second the rofl. I used to play in local Halo 1 and 2 tourneys: I was a fanatic. But to say that other than the books and expanded universes, that the games had any literary merit or worthwhile characters (read: not iconic) is absurd.

Seriously wtf is this "admission", though? I can probably name off-hand 20 of my friends who are halo fanboys without thinking. Welcome to the most popular game on the planet: thanks for admitting it?
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 17:14
smurfee mcgee
I like it a little, but I'm a fan of shooters and I get bored with Halo 3 after a while.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 17:15
EternalDeathSlayer
@ Magnalon: Be nice. In a community like Dtoid, being a Halo fanboy can cause you a lot of grief. Lots of us so-called "hardcore" gamers hate on the game just because it's popular. Besides this, he's only being honest.

While I agree that the game's story and characters are completely uninteresting, I cannot deny that the multiplayer is some of the best there is.

Shame the single player isn't as exciting as the online modes.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 17:19
Mushman
Whatever Mag said, Halo 3 is deviod of character development, and tells one hell of a generic sci-fi story. Shame because I had real hope for an amazing (continuing)story when I played Halo 1 on PC, but 2 and 3 pissed all over that notion.

Whatever Halo 1 achieved in storytelling terms, 2 and 3 destroyed by telling cookie clutter narratives that relied on every generic story device available in the book of storytelling.

If you said the books were great, I'd agree, even though I read a bit of one, I really liked it.

'But to say that other than the books and expanded universes, that the games had any literary merit or worthwhile characters (read: not iconic) is absurd.'

Agreed Mag.
TheDRMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 17:30
TheDRMaster
LOL UR GHEY HALO SUX

Seriously though, Halo is a good game and deserves the praise it receives. It accomplishes the goals of a fun, easy to pick up mainstream title with rock solid online play and a fun campaign. It's just not my style.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 17:38
RAB
honestly? i thought it was good until i played call of duty. now it just seems really simple and watered down
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 17:54
ajaxender
I agree with Mushman here. Halo 1 was undeniably great in its time, my main problem is that with 2 and 3 is that Bungie just couldnt be bothered coming up with anything new; anything remotely interesting or original they had created came from 1. 2 just took us back to a Halo as soon as possible, and 3 copied 2 with the important-to-the-story-i-guess-but-not-noticeable-to-gameplay change of the Ark instead of another bloody ring...

That being said, all the games are fun to play, multiplayer of course, but also co-op and single player. Even now, I enjoy a quick blast of Halo 1. No point playing 2, given that 3 is very similar (except quite nicely upgraded).
This comes from a PC gamer too (yes, theres some of us who arent spending all their time lording our mice and keyboards over the rest of you). I actually quite like how different Halo is from most pc shooters, its much slower, and has an interesting bunch of weapons and good vehicles, something not many games have these days.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 18:13
AngelsDontBurn
I'm sorry.
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 18:21
Krow
I had a lot of fun with both Halo and Halo 2's campaign modes. I wouldn't call them the best games ever, but they were fun.

That's about it.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 18:30
Holyetheline
Halo has really fun multiplayer. I just recently started playing and I have really been enjoying the time I've spent with the game. Obviously I had played H3 when it came out... but I just now started giving it a chance. Just give it a chance people!
FinnE's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 19:07
FinnE
@phantom, magnalon - my argument isn't that halo 3 does anything innovative as far as storytelling goes. the narrative is generic, as someone mentioned in another comment, and that's a valid criticism. I'm not denying any of that. what I am saying, though, is that the execution and integration of the elements is worthy of great admiration. perhaps an analogy is in order, but I'll try to be brief.

the film gladiator is an appropriate analogy for the point I'm trying to make. it is one of my favorite movies (though I am a filmmaker, meaning I have tons of favorites). gladiator is about a stoic hero who is betrayed by his country, and begins a long and epic journey to seek revenge. that story has been told in one form or another hundreds upon thousands of times in every medium possible - film, literature, video games, theater - you name it. but what makes gladiator remarkable is how well the elements that make up the film are executed. the direction is superb. the acting is phenomenal. the dialogue is immersive. the production design is remarkably accurate. the characters are easily cast as hero or villain, and thereby easily identifiable with. yet, the story is one of the most generic stories to ever be told.

now, don't mistake me for comparing gladiator and halo 3 because even I, as a massive halo fanboy, can't compare the two seriously. one is a monumental achievement in what I consider to be the pinnacle and synthesis of art, and one is a popular video game. but what I am arguing is that in many ways, halo 3 is similar to gladiator in that its execution is better than many if not most video games to date.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 19:22
pascuz46
I already knew you where a halo fanboy. Half your intro blog was about halo and the other half was about Lost Odyssey. This isnt new news to me, anyways the story of the first Halo was great, then it went all down hill from there (IMO). Halo 2 and 3 are all about the multiplayer and the story was neglected. The world of Halo is very interesting but I found more character development in the halo novel I read years ago than the in any of the Halo games combined. If your curious to know what novel Im talking about its Halo: Fall Of Reach, now that would make for a fantastic single player if they ever decided to make that book into a game.
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 19:29
garison
Halo is pretty fun, I used to play system link with my brothers all the time.
CapnCrunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 19:53
CapnCrunk
MOAR LIEK GAYLO AMIRITE?

Yeah fine, you like Halo. I like things too...
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2009 21:25
Chris Carter
My point wasn't to be mean, Eternal, it was to (albeit in a curt fashion) show that there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking Halo. Literally, I've met hundreds of Halo fans, and a ton of them are frat boys or popular kids (even in a rich area where I grew up, with tons of popular cliques).

It's a popular game for a reason, and it's a shit-ton more popular than Bioshock, or almost any other game on the planet. It's the #1 all time Live game for a reason. He'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't like Halo, unless they didn't own a 360, or just hated the fact that it was popular without actually playing it. Neither of which opinion should he concern himself with, as they're presumptuous.

Personally, I'm just done with Halo. I probably spent around 1,000+ hours on Halo 1, 800 on Halo 2, and when 3 rolled around, I was just sick of it. The gameplay is too similar, and 2's dual wielding was the biggest step it took gameplay wise. More vehicles and a few "super-weapons" didn't do it for me.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2009 00:30
vexed alex
Why in the hell are we still having these discussions?

This game is 2 years old. Get the fuck over it. Both sides.
FinnE's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2009 03:22
FinnE
@vexed alex - good games know no time limit. just because the game is two years old shouldn't mean we as gamers should stop appreciating it (if we choose to appreciate it in the first place) and move on. people still play chronotrigger, or FF7, or super mario 64, or cstrike...why? because they're great games and great games don't lose their greatness over time. in my opinion, halo is one of these great games. many people disagree. but for me, I enjoy the campaign and story and cinematography immensely.
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2009 02:05
themizarkshow
The original Halo was really fun at the time... but they haven't done enough with the series to keep it up to date. At this point, I think it's doing so well bc of the name and simple/familiar gameplay. As other games graphics and physics engines and characters/stories got better and better, Halo just kind of stuck to what the first game did. I tried playing 2 and 3, but they are pretty lame compared to CoD, GOW, Battlefield, etc.

I'm not trying to diss on people that play the game, I just can't understand how/why people would spend as much time on it as they do.
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