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What would be awesome is if your CoD - Black Ops character got to fight a russian special forces unit lead by a cool woman called The Boss in an attempt to stop some awesome weapon of mass destruction in the hands of a madman.
Personally I just can't get into FPS games, I hate not being able to see my own character.
Personally I just can't get into FPS games, I hate not being able to see my own character.
I can get into FPS games, it's just the genre feels kind of stale. Honestly, there is almost no way to change this if you're trying to accurately depict war and battlezones. In the end it all boils down to kill or be killed.
Only when you create a new world with unrealistic and interesting weapons and concepts can you actually breathe some life into the genre, and even then it's still kill or be killed from a first person perspective.
But I do somewhat agree about not being able to see your character. I kind of like seeing mine too, even if that's playing to the strengths of different medium like cinema, instead of trying to immerse you in ways a movie can't, which is what an FPS is supposed to do.
Only when you create a new world with unrealistic and interesting weapons and concepts can you actually breathe some life into the genre, and even then it's still kill or be killed from a first person perspective.
But I do somewhat agree about not being able to see your character. I kind of like seeing mine too, even if that's playing to the strengths of different medium like cinema, instead of trying to immerse you in ways a movie can't, which is what an FPS is supposed to do.
I can fap to this. Well not on my phone but, ya know.
The Activision hate is just part of a ridiculous cycle where we choose to villify one publisher. Why I still don't know. It changes with seasons. Eventually Acti will bungle up a PR nightmare and scramble to look good in the eyes of the public again. It's happened countless times before. EA, Eidos, even Atari.
The Activision hate is just part of a ridiculous cycle where we choose to villify one publisher. Why I still don't know. It changes with seasons. Eventually Acti will bungle up a PR nightmare and scramble to look good in the eyes of the public again. It's happened countless times before. EA, Eidos, even Atari.
I think Ubisoft will be the next station the hate train stops at, just a feeling but with all the DRM issues, games like Imagine Babiez, parkour based games and possibly cancelling Beyond Good and Evil 2 it seems like people would turn their hate towards them once they make a big mistake or get bored of Activision.
Activision maybe seem a bit worse to some people just now, but it's not as if other publishers are any better.
"tell people to not be so quick to judge something before you try it" Agreed.
but to say people who care about how products are made "are just assholes with way too much free time on their hands" doesn't seem fair. I don't see anything wrong with boycotting if you have a good reason.
"tell people to not be so quick to judge something before you try it" Agreed.
but to say people who care about how products are made "are just assholes with way too much free time on their hands" doesn't seem fair. I don't see anything wrong with boycotting if you have a good reason.
@ Handy and xyliac: You know what's really funny? Everybody says EA is all good and stuff now that they try and make original IPs instead of totally whoring everything out, but go take a look at their stock market performance and their profits? Wait, what profits? Oh, right, they went 3 straight years without making a fucking dime in profit.
And people blame them for the way they conduct business. I'm sure the end is near for John Riccitello or however the fuck you spell his name, what with shareholders talking about how pathetic and stupid he is all the time. He will be ousted soon, and it's somewhat of a shame because I appreciate his dedication to making and developing new IP.
But them's the breaks.
And people blame them for the way they conduct business. I'm sure the end is near for John Riccitello or however the fuck you spell his name, what with shareholders talking about how pathetic and stupid he is all the time. He will be ousted soon, and it's somewhat of a shame because I appreciate his dedication to making and developing new IP.
But them's the breaks.
I agree and disagree. Fapped regardless. I enjoy your rants EDS, even tho they probably take you to a certain point of malice to write.
Okay, I usually don't do this, but really disagree with this post, and I think you misunderstand why people like that refuse to buy the activision games. It's not that they think they can make a difference, it's a matter of principal. I don't buy Apple products because they are evil, I'm voting with my wallet. I know a lack of my business won't do a thing, but the point is I don't want to help a company that I view as pure evil. Obviously the point of business at the end of the day is money, publishers make good games so they can make good money, not so they can make good games, that's means to an end.
I also don't think you should think that you're the only person who's a "realist" in this way, realist to me usually being synonymous with defeatist. I think it was a bit of a dick move to rip on these people, when you kinda didn't get the point of what they're doing, especially when their goals are kinda altruistic.
Also, you're a fucking asshole and everyone should hate you and never ever read anything you write ever and then you should jump into the sun and stay there and suffer and die for like a million years, and then god or everyman or satan or whoever can beat your dead ass around while you're in heaven/hell/purgatory. BAM /ironic hyperbole
I also don't think you should think that you're the only person who's a "realist" in this way, realist to me usually being synonymous with defeatist. I think it was a bit of a dick move to rip on these people, when you kinda didn't get the point of what they're doing, especially when their goals are kinda altruistic.
Also, you're a fucking asshole and everyone should hate you and never ever read anything you write ever and then you should jump into the sun and stay there and suffer and die for like a million years, and then god or everyman or satan or whoever can beat your dead ass around while you're in heaven/hell/purgatory. BAM /ironic hyperbole
Excellent blog!
I agree with what you've said, but I think that devs do have to look at customer dissatisfaction as well. It seems that the online play is gradually losing it's popularity. From MW, to WaW then MW2 it seems that fewer people are satisfied with the state of the online play and are more quickly moving on to other games (or in the case of some of my friends, going back to previous games for online). Unless they make some changes I don't think I'm alone in my intent to simply rent the game for the campaign mode. In the end, this will impact on sales.
... though as you've noted, the impact would likely be minimal as most people just see the game, remember the title, and just buy it.
I agree with what you've said, but I think that devs do have to look at customer dissatisfaction as well. It seems that the online play is gradually losing it's popularity. From MW, to WaW then MW2 it seems that fewer people are satisfied with the state of the online play and are more quickly moving on to other games (or in the case of some of my friends, going back to previous games for online). Unless they make some changes I don't think I'm alone in my intent to simply rent the game for the campaign mode. In the end, this will impact on sales.
... though as you've noted, the impact would likely be minimal as most people just see the game, remember the title, and just buy it.
@ Occams: Are you some sort of fucking hippie? WTF? An "Evil" corporation? What exactly is evil about making shit people want to buy and then turning a profit? Do you see what I mean? When you show me a company who literally hurt people in a real way, then we can say that they're evil.
There is nothing evil about making money. Grow the fuck up.
Something tells me you support Universal Health Care too. So fucking predictable.
Show me that Activision is evil and then you say whatever you like. Until then stop making up lies because you don't like how Activision whores out their properties. I think you've been reading too many comics or playing too much FF7.
Shinra, a fake company in a game, was an evil company. They killed people and stole their land. As far as I know, no game company to date has done this.
There is nothing evil about making money. Grow the fuck up.
Something tells me you support Universal Health Care too. So fucking predictable.
Show me that Activision is evil and then you say whatever you like. Until then stop making up lies because you don't like how Activision whores out their properties. I think you've been reading too many comics or playing too much FF7.
Shinra, a fake company in a game, was an evil company. They killed people and stole their land. As far as I know, no game company to date has done this.
The preview for the game got me pretty pumped for it. Not sure why people would want to deprive themselves of a good game.
I can't get behind this argument as its inclination is to disregard principles in favour of being a good consumer. I've seen your line of thought lodged against vegetarians or any individuals who choose to boycott a product/service they see as immoral - it's as impotent a counterargument then as it is now by the fact that it is absolutely unwilling to prioritize personal interest over utility.
Also, while valid, the point that change will occur naturally is not sufficient to no longer hold as bad a business practice one sees to be bad. Ought we shed the concepts of good and bad business practice, seeing as the bad will be weeded out eventually? In other words: ought we alter our moral conscience to suit consumer trends?
Also, while valid, the point that change will occur naturally is not sufficient to no longer hold as bad a business practice one sees to be bad. Ought we shed the concepts of good and bad business practice, seeing as the bad will be weeded out eventually? In other words: ought we alter our moral conscience to suit consumer trends?
@EDS,
I find it really hard to believe that any reasonable person could not support free health care, first of all. Second, it's not inherently evil to make money, obviously, it's naive to think the world works for any other reason, but the evil comes from how corporations make that money, and I think to ignore the reasons already stated about activision's evil is shortsighted. $15 was too much for the stimulus pack, I didn't get it or modern warfare 2, but activision knew people would pay for it. Screwing every possible dime out of players that they know will bite is a little evil to me. $15 for some extra lines of code is ridiculous, and the stimulus pack probably netted activision more profit proportionally than MW itself.
I find it really hard to believe that any reasonable person could not support free health care, first of all. Second, it's not inherently evil to make money, obviously, it's naive to think the world works for any other reason, but the evil comes from how corporations make that money, and I think to ignore the reasons already stated about activision's evil is shortsighted. $15 was too much for the stimulus pack, I didn't get it or modern warfare 2, but activision knew people would pay for it. Screwing every possible dime out of players that they know will bite is a little evil to me. $15 for some extra lines of code is ridiculous, and the stimulus pack probably netted activision more profit proportionally than MW itself.
Excuse me, I meant Om Nom On Souls, not occams. Don't know how the fuck that happened.
@ Byronic Man: Here is the thing though: Activision never did anything wrong. They simply exploit money making franchises for as long as they can, much like star sports players are used up and then discarded when no longer useful, or how people one day become old and have to retire because they are not as useful.
Nobody did anything wrong here as far as we know, and until that changes people shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Basically it's like this: When Apple or Activision starts hurting people and not just "insulting their intelligence" or whatever horrible thing they apparently do, then you've got an argument. I get where you're coming from and I know I painted too broad of a picture here and was a bit harsh, but that's just who I am. I really don't have time to worry about anyone but myself, my wife, and my kids.
Trust me, I'm not alone in these sentiments. There are plenty of other people who feel the same. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is what it is.
@ Byronic Man: Here is the thing though: Activision never did anything wrong. They simply exploit money making franchises for as long as they can, much like star sports players are used up and then discarded when no longer useful, or how people one day become old and have to retire because they are not as useful.
Nobody did anything wrong here as far as we know, and until that changes people shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Basically it's like this: When Apple or Activision starts hurting people and not just "insulting their intelligence" or whatever horrible thing they apparently do, then you've got an argument. I get where you're coming from and I know I painted too broad of a picture here and was a bit harsh, but that's just who I am. I really don't have time to worry about anyone but myself, my wife, and my kids.
Trust me, I'm not alone in these sentiments. There are plenty of other people who feel the same. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is what it is.
To be honest with you I could care less who publishes this or who publishes that, as long as the end product is something that "i" enjoy. I will be buying this title because so far I have enjoyed all of the CoD games regardless of who made the game.
All of you goddamn elitists need to get off of your high horses and soap boxes and just enjoy what's out there.
I promise things are not as bad as you all keep making them out to be.
All of you goddamn elitists need to get off of your high horses and soap boxes and just enjoy what's out there.
I promise things are not as bad as you all keep making them out to be.
@ Om Nom: I still fail to see how maximizing profits is evil. They don't the consumer shit, and the consumer doesn't owe them shit. I bought MW2 but I did not buy the map pack because it was too expensive. Do I care that my not buying it didn't do anything to their bottom line? No, I don't. They've got a right to charge whatever the hell they want.
And while I'm gonna try and not get into the health care thing, here's my problem, and the problem of a lot of people who don't support it: Why should I have to pay higher taxes, which you will in the end, for somebody else to get what I already have on my own through hard work. Kids should always be taken care of, but if you're 30 and still don't have a job that provides health care, that's not my fault. It's cold and mean, but people have mortgages, car payments, college educations for their kids, and all other manner of shit they care more about than if some guy they don't know can afford to pay for his surgery.
It's just not my problem, selfish as that sounds. My family comes first.
And while I'm gonna try and not get into the health care thing, here's my problem, and the problem of a lot of people who don't support it: Why should I have to pay higher taxes, which you will in the end, for somebody else to get what I already have on my own through hard work. Kids should always be taken care of, but if you're 30 and still don't have a job that provides health care, that's not my fault. It's cold and mean, but people have mortgages, car payments, college educations for their kids, and all other manner of shit they care more about than if some guy they don't know can afford to pay for his surgery.
It's just not my problem, selfish as that sounds. My family comes first.
@EDS
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe that Activision are 'evil' or whatever. I don't particularly care about their practices at this moment in time.
But what you are doing is attempting to render the actions of consumers as wholely amoral, in spite of the fact that some people have moral reasons behind their consumerist behaviour. While it is sound to object to their reasons and argue therein, outrightly criticizing their actions (i.e. be they boycotting or overindulging) seperatly to their reasoning, on the basis that these actions are or should be amoral - or at least absolutely consumerist - is philosophically negligent.
Furthermore it makes for a redundant dialogue as the terms of consumerism that you have set differ wildly to those of whom you argue against. It would be better to first discuss these terms and following that the consumerist actions derived from these terms. As it stands, the best that can come from this blog is an agreement to disagree without any real mutual understanding - since the real disagreement lies elsewhere.
I hope this hasn't been rude of me. In case it's unclear, my understanding of your blog is as follows: you are arguing against the logic of consumerist boycotting based on the understanding of consumerism as a utilitarian activity. However those who boycott do so on the understanding that consumerism is motivated principly by non-utilitarian reasons.
(If it's uncertain to anyone what I mean by 'utilitarian consumerism,' please ask.)
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe that Activision are 'evil' or whatever. I don't particularly care about their practices at this moment in time.
But what you are doing is attempting to render the actions of consumers as wholely amoral, in spite of the fact that some people have moral reasons behind their consumerist behaviour. While it is sound to object to their reasons and argue therein, outrightly criticizing their actions (i.e. be they boycotting or overindulging) seperatly to their reasoning, on the basis that these actions are or should be amoral - or at least absolutely consumerist - is philosophically negligent.
Furthermore it makes for a redundant dialogue as the terms of consumerism that you have set differ wildly to those of whom you argue against. It would be better to first discuss these terms and following that the consumerist actions derived from these terms. As it stands, the best that can come from this blog is an agreement to disagree without any real mutual understanding - since the real disagreement lies elsewhere.
I hope this hasn't been rude of me. In case it's unclear, my understanding of your blog is as follows: you are arguing against the logic of consumerist boycotting based on the understanding of consumerism as a utilitarian activity. However those who boycott do so on the understanding that consumerism is motivated principly by non-utilitarian reasons.
(If it's uncertain to anyone what I mean by 'utilitarian consumerism,' please ask.)
@ Byronic Man: No, it hasn't been rude and I've in fact enjoyed the dialogue between us so far. I'm not objecting to you having your opinion and sharing it.
The point of my blog isn't to convince people that I am right and they are wrong. It's not meant to be persuasive, simply me letting how feel be known.
No reason why we can't all be civil, and with that I feel I owe someone an apology.
So, sorry, On Nom On Souls for getting a bit hostile. Of course, what fun would the world be if we all felt the same about things? The more discussion and the more viewpoints presented, the better.
I'm simply a high-strung person who likes to go all out and not pull any punches, even if I might be wrong about some stuff. That's why you guys are here, to let me know what you think.
The point of my blog isn't to convince people that I am right and they are wrong. It's not meant to be persuasive, simply me letting how feel be known.
No reason why we can't all be civil, and with that I feel I owe someone an apology.
So, sorry, On Nom On Souls for getting a bit hostile. Of course, what fun would the world be if we all felt the same about things? The more discussion and the more viewpoints presented, the better.
I'm simply a high-strung person who likes to go all out and not pull any punches, even if I might be wrong about some stuff. That's why you guys are here, to let me know what you think.
@Handy
I agree. Ubi is definitely in line to take the thrown. All they need is one major fuck up at this point to push people over. The Assassin's Creed whoring might do it. I know their DRM is soooo super popular right now.
I agree. Ubi is definitely in line to take the thrown. All they need is one major fuck up at this point to push people over. The Assassin's Creed whoring might do it. I know their DRM is soooo super popular right now.
Okay, so the fact that Treyarch makes horribly shitty games and the fact that the last Call of Duty game they made needed to be fixed over a 4 month period of time before it was even comparable to CoD4 is not a reason for Activision to have my money. Not to mention that the Call of Duty they made before that is generally regarded to as by far, the worst one. My hate for Activision stems from the fact that they just don't have quality IP's; Guitar Hero is a joke anymore, money's better spent on Rock Band. Call of Duty has started to go downhill, and it's general fanbase of HERPDERP DRUNK COLLEGE fuckery irritates me. Blur was the real game I was excited for, but I'm pretty sure if they can assfuck it for sequels, they will, and they'll do it a LOT. Yes, every other publisher does sketchy things. EA's currently my favorite publisher because they've (seemingly) learned to respect their studios, and have allowed them space. I've seen TONS of AAA games from their studios in the past couple of years, and it excites me to SEE a publisher do just that; publish. Leave everything else to the dev's. Ideally, there has to be a respect between a developer and a publisher, otherwise nothing can flourish. Publisher has to realize when to give the developer their space, otherwise they lose potential money. But, the developer has to be able to keep things in a reasonable timeframe. (NOT Alan Wake/Too Human, though I do love me some Alan Wake)
I see something similar to that in EA, but not from Activision, and it bothers me. As for your reasoning that GH is casual, thus people will buy every new one; not so true. Tons of casuals from my area have given up on the series due to not being able to keep up money-wise. They've since gone to RB. But, that's just around here. Dunno how it is there. Great read!
I see something similar to that in EA, but not from Activision, and it bothers me. As for your reasoning that GH is casual, thus people will buy every new one; not so true. Tons of casuals from my area have given up on the series due to not being able to keep up money-wise. They've since gone to RB. But, that's just around here. Dunno how it is there. Great read!
@ ZServ: Actually, the thing about GH was that because it was so casual, people would not continue to buy new versions because of the cost and the fact that to them it seems like they don't need it. They already have a perfectly good and working version of it, why do they need more? Whereas with CoD, you're getting a lot of purchases from males 13-30 who while very into gaming are not as into it as us, so they still rely on a name like CoD to feel like they're going to get something worth 60 bucks. They don't spend their time researching or reading about games, just really enjoy playing them when they have time.
"I'm simply a high-strung person who likes to go all out and not pull any punches, even if I might be wrong about some stuff". You definitely suit the Kratos avatar.
Treyarch limited noobtube spam, Infinity Ward gave people MORE noobtubes; I'm siding with Treyarch on knowing how to handle mutiplayer far better. I don't care if Kotick's an asshole, if I like the game a lot, I'm going to buy it.
But, you are really fucked if you're spewing that ignorant Republican spin on healthcare "raising mah taxes" nonsense. Current gimped legislation isn't what we needed, but watch this Universal Healthcare video from Kucinich, and talk to me about "more taxes". More like "more insurance company profit for not doing a goddamn thing while people get fucked over and die, but hey, yay monetizing suffering because I'm fine and fuck poor and lower middle-class people".
But, you are really fucked if you're spewing that ignorant Republican spin on healthcare "raising mah taxes" nonsense. Current gimped legislation isn't what we needed, but watch this Universal Healthcare video from Kucinich, and talk to me about "more taxes". More like "more insurance company profit for not doing a goddamn thing while people get fucked over and die, but hey, yay monetizing suffering because I'm fine and fuck poor and lower middle-class people".
@ Blasto: Chill out. I stated my views on Universal Health Care and I stand by them. I do somewhat feel it's wrong for insurance companies to reap such high profits, but again, at the same time a 10-15% tax increase down the road could potentially totally fuck me over. If my bills stay the same and the money we bring in doesn't go up a whole lot, then even a 10% increase could practically sabotage my life.
I really don't want to have to move into a different house and all that so some adults who couldn't manage to take good enough care of themselves can get even more free shit handed to them.
I mean, who's handing me some free shit? Nobody. Who's handing my parents free shit? Nobody.
I really don't want to have to move into a different house and all that so some adults who couldn't manage to take good enough care of themselves can get even more free shit handed to them.
I mean, who's handing me some free shit? Nobody. Who's handing my parents free shit? Nobody.
I hate to judge things because it's made by something or someone. If I think it's good I'll buy it. If I think it's shit, I won't. That's about it. Oh and I love to pay for something I want. Everybody and their uncle want stuff for free nowadays. It's pretty fucked up if you ask me.
I've only read the first couple paragraphs, but I had to just stop reading. Saying that there is no game developer that makes games for reasons other than money is bullshit. You ever heard of "Pixel"?
Nah I just hate COD because it's the same fucking game over and over again. There are games that follow similar patterns that I like like numerous open world games but the whole gung ho army guy game really has been done to death. Irony is, I might atleast check out Black Ops for it's different setting, the only thing remotely interesting about this forthcoming COD.
I don't see how Apple is evil. I'm using an Apple device right now though i'm not seeing how they're doing anything that would necessitate their evil status. Does seem like kind of a high school response....sorry.
I however do agree with Om Nom on the Health Care front. It's so easy to take the selfish route. Family comes first, but the thing is alot if these people who think this way very rarely find themselves in dire medical needs. The reason it works is you can have a happy capitalistic medium and enjoy the benefit of knowing that you don't have to worry about that aspect when it is indeed your time.
I don't see how Apple is evil. I'm using an Apple device right now though i'm not seeing how they're doing anything that would necessitate their evil status. Does seem like kind of a high school response....sorry.
I however do agree with Om Nom on the Health Care front. It's so easy to take the selfish route. Family comes first, but the thing is alot if these people who think this way very rarely find themselves in dire medical needs. The reason it works is you can have a happy capitalistic medium and enjoy the benefit of knowing that you don't have to worry about that aspect when it is indeed your time.
"Shinra, a fake company in a game, was an evil company. They killed people and stole their land. As far as I know, no game company to date has done this."
Had to fap after reading this. Excellent blog, but I can also understand where Om Nom is coming from after the recent 15$ map pack pricing. Yes, there is nothing wrong with maximizing profit. It just "seemed" like a blatant slap in the face to all the people that bought MW2 and play it online.
Had to fap after reading this. Excellent blog, but I can also understand where Om Nom is coming from after the recent 15$ map pack pricing. Yes, there is nothing wrong with maximizing profit. It just "seemed" like a blatant slap in the face to all the people that bought MW2 and play it online.
Excellent blog, man. That's exactly how I feel about the matter too.
You pretty much described how most of the world's bussinesses work. Sure, some do legitamely care about customers, but their main concern has always been making profit.
You pretty much described how most of the world's bussinesses work. Sure, some do legitamely care about customers, but their main concern has always been making profit.
In the end, all companies are "evil". The fact that people get pissed at publishers for trying to salvage profits while they are losing money left and right just boggles my mind. Especially in regards to the EA plan to try and make some money off of used game sales. Like you said, EA has posted losses for the last 3 years yet Gamestop has posted record profits. And for some reason, the gamer mob wants to lynch EA just because they want to stay in business.
Psh, kids these days.
Psh, kids these days.
By the time I get through reading a blog nowadays that I find I might have an opinion about, I sit here, chew through all the comments (of which there are hundredsss) and realize that I'm too late to the party to see the point in putting in the effort to organize and write out my thoughts in opposition or expounded agreement.
So all I got for this one is:
For the most part, I disagree.
Because I believe you're arguing against a position that is inherently weaker in principle than any I've ever heard from a sensible person in regards to boycotting a company's products. You didn't really challenge any of the more complex thoughts people have about these things, which mostly comes from what you alluded to inspiring this blog: comments on a news story post, not exactly rich material for working off of.
All that, and you later said this, "Something tells me you support Universal Health Care too. So fucking predictable."
I'm not taking sides on the issue that got started from this, but jesus, man. Assigning an opinion on someone else based on a controversial topic because of how you assume they might think is one of the biggest dick-moves you can make. I know you don't act so disrespectfully all the time, so I'm just pointing out that in this case, it makes you look pretty low.
So all I got for this one is:
For the most part, I disagree.
Because I believe you're arguing against a position that is inherently weaker in principle than any I've ever heard from a sensible person in regards to boycotting a company's products. You didn't really challenge any of the more complex thoughts people have about these things, which mostly comes from what you alluded to inspiring this blog: comments on a news story post, not exactly rich material for working off of.
All that, and you later said this, "Something tells me you support Universal Health Care too. So fucking predictable."
I'm not taking sides on the issue that got started from this, but jesus, man. Assigning an opinion on someone else based on a controversial topic because of how you assume they might think is one of the biggest dick-moves you can make. I know you don't act so disrespectfully all the time, so I'm just pointing out that in this case, it makes you look pretty low.
So you just basically hate all people who stand up for their beliefs, and have been in a pessimistic mood for the past week?
I'm not against people standing up for what they believe in. I personally feel that this particular topic isn't actually worth of standing up and "fighting" for. It's not that important in the swing of things, and like I said, you could potentially deprive yourself of some good gaming experiences in the future. Activision does publish quality games sometimes, and it would be silly to miss out on something good over something so silly.
You don't like 15 dollar map packs? Great, don't buy them. I didn't. I didn't think it was worth it, but then again I'm not a huge fan of MW2 online. If it were Halo I bet I'd pony up for it no matter how ripped off I felt. I just really enjoy Halo's online component, although I hate it's campaign.
You don't like 15 dollar map packs? Great, don't buy them. I didn't. I didn't think it was worth it, but then again I'm not a huge fan of MW2 online. If it were Halo I bet I'd pony up for it no matter how ripped off I felt. I just really enjoy Halo's online component, although I hate it's campaign.
A lot of developers make games for reasons other than profit. Publishers, maybe not, but I've met quite a few developers who used to make a lot more money making big, stupid games, and have since pulled back and started in on making games that barely turn a profit but are fun to make.
Maybe they're doing that because they secretly think it will make them even richer, but their words and actions don't speak to that.
So yeah, not everybody in the industry is solely focused on making as much cash as possible.
Maybe they're doing that because they secretly think it will make them even richer, but their words and actions don't speak to that.
So yeah, not everybody in the industry is solely focused on making as much cash as possible.
I laughed at ONOS' post so hard. He called a corporation "evil". EVIL. In an non-ironic fashion. I understand not liking their business practices or something, but let's not speak in black-and-white terms like a fucking 12-year old.
I simultaneously agree and disagree. I am one of those people who refuses to buy Activision products, and I'm one of those people who actually sticks it out and legitimately refuses to buy ANYTHING, used or new, that the company puts out.
I agree that anyone who complains and then takes the shit anyway is making everything worse, but I like to think, and perhaps I'm deluding myself, that my cause is a bit more noble.
A company exists with the sole intention of making a profit, and so the best way a person can do what they can in the face of an entitiy like Activision is to speak with their wallets. I buy games like Retro Game Challenge and Madworld and No More Heroes when others purchase Call of Duty 4 and Call of Duty 5 and Call of Duty 6.
Does that make me better than those people? Absolutely not, but I stand for what I stand for. I want more creativity in games; I want more crazy Japanese things that have no reason to be localized but are anyways; I want more companies like Atlus and Valve who, instead of shitting on their customers, reward them with free content, great pack-ins, or what have you.
Obviously the game industry is in the business of making money, but to simultaneously raise prices and remove features (a la Modern Warfare 2 on the PC) is not something I could ever stand behind.
So I don't buy Activision products, and no, I'm not making a dent in their bottom line, but I can stand up and say that I'm trying to put my money to good use. I want my money to go to companies that, for purposes of their own profit, try to make me feel good for buying their products, rather than like a sheep in the herd.
It's the same reason people don't shop at Wal-Mart or don't watch the Glenn Beck show. People don't want to support something they have funmdamental disagreements with.
I'm not sure why that offends you so much.
I agree that anyone who complains and then takes the shit anyway is making everything worse, but I like to think, and perhaps I'm deluding myself, that my cause is a bit more noble.
A company exists with the sole intention of making a profit, and so the best way a person can do what they can in the face of an entitiy like Activision is to speak with their wallets. I buy games like Retro Game Challenge and Madworld and No More Heroes when others purchase Call of Duty 4 and Call of Duty 5 and Call of Duty 6.
Does that make me better than those people? Absolutely not, but I stand for what I stand for. I want more creativity in games; I want more crazy Japanese things that have no reason to be localized but are anyways; I want more companies like Atlus and Valve who, instead of shitting on their customers, reward them with free content, great pack-ins, or what have you.
Obviously the game industry is in the business of making money, but to simultaneously raise prices and remove features (a la Modern Warfare 2 on the PC) is not something I could ever stand behind.
So I don't buy Activision products, and no, I'm not making a dent in their bottom line, but I can stand up and say that I'm trying to put my money to good use. I want my money to go to companies that, for purposes of their own profit, try to make me feel good for buying their products, rather than like a sheep in the herd.
It's the same reason people don't shop at Wal-Mart or don't watch the Glenn Beck show. People don't want to support something they have funmdamental disagreements with.
I'm not sure why that offends you so much.
Jonathan Holmes: You're like the second or 3rd person to mention developers. I never once said that there weren't developers who are in it for something besides money. Hell, I doubt the guys who do those bit.trip games aren't in it for the money.
I only said publishers.
I only said publishers.
I think it's a bit backward to say "change will come naturally" and "just wait for it"
Change comes "naturally" because consumers REACT. By suppressing the reaction, you're interfering with that change.
Don't get me wrong, I personally don't understand a lot of the Activision hate. I stopped buying Guitar Hero after it got boring, and I stopped buying COD after I got tired of FPS games. This is not a moral crusade, it's a matter of taste. This is one way that change can happen.
Boycott is another way. Granted, Activision has to see A) that people are taking that action and B) that that action is having an actual effect, i.e. lost profits.
That hasn't happened yet. It probably won't anytime soon. But it CAN happen, and I don't think it's fair to say that it shouldn't happen. I get that you disagree with it, but try to keep an open mind.
Change comes "naturally" because consumers REACT. By suppressing the reaction, you're interfering with that change.
Don't get me wrong, I personally don't understand a lot of the Activision hate. I stopped buying Guitar Hero after it got boring, and I stopped buying COD after I got tired of FPS games. This is not a moral crusade, it's a matter of taste. This is one way that change can happen.
Boycott is another way. Granted, Activision has to see A) that people are taking that action and B) that that action is having an actual effect, i.e. lost profits.
That hasn't happened yet. It probably won't anytime soon. But it CAN happen, and I don't think it's fair to say that it shouldn't happen. I get that you disagree with it, but try to keep an open mind.
I'm fine with game publishers trying to make money; if there's a market for it, let them exploit it. I don't necessarily enjoy capitalism, but I'm not naive enough to think that we'd still have videogames without it. It's our job as consumers to regulate the market with our wallets, whether we like it or not.
As for health insurance, I couldn't disagree more, and comparing what should be a basic right to something like videogames is absolutely mind-boggling. However, since this is a video game blog, I'll leave my comment at that.
As for health insurance, I couldn't disagree more, and comparing what should be a basic right to something like videogames is absolutely mind-boggling. However, since this is a video game blog, I'll leave my comment at that.
i couldn't figure out why this had so many posts
then i realized eternaldeathslayer is one of those people that rebuts every little point someone makes
also, someone said treyarch makes better games
DONE!
then i realized eternaldeathslayer is one of those people that rebuts every little point someone makes
also, someone said treyarch makes better games
DONE!
@ EDS- Well, you did say "the gaming industry exists for one reason and one reason only: To make a profit", and to me, the gaming industry includes developers, publishers, and the press. While I'm at it, I should point out that some publishers aren't really in it for the profit either. You should hear some of the shit the XSeed guys say.
Anyway, I'm nitpicking. The point is, I don't blame people for hating a publisher that they can't relate with. That said, Activision isn't "evil". They're just a company that thinks money is an end in and of itself, and not just means to produce something greater. I can't relate with that, but if they publish a good game, I'll buy it.
Anyway, I'm nitpicking. The point is, I don't blame people for hating a publisher that they can't relate with. That said, Activision isn't "evil". They're just a company that thinks money is an end in and of itself, and not just means to produce something greater. I can't relate with that, but if they publish a good game, I'll buy it.
